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Originally posted by dingyibvs
I would like to educate you on the current affairs in China. Here's the first one:
THERE IS NO COMMUNISM IN CHINA. Yup. The party is called the "Communist Party", and they spread propaganda about it al the time, but no one actually believes it. Now with that out of the way, you should probably realize a statement like "your country's people probably wont like sideing with a country that rejected comunism, most likely your gov will think: " They must be taught the ways of comunsim (COUGH BS COUGH)" " is at the height of ignorance.
Secondly, your argument of "attitudes can change quickly" actually serves to strengthen my argument of "past disputes b/w Russia and China do not matter". Sure they've fought before, but like you said "attitudes can change quickly", and now with a common foe in the U.S., they HAVE changed quickly.
Oh, and to say Russia doesn't have to worry about the U.S. is just ludicrous. With the advancement of NATO toward the Russian border, and the U.S. squeezing Russian influence in the Balkans, the U.S. have and will continue make inroads toward Russia. It is of the U.S. interest to see every nation much much weaker than themselves.
The fact of the matter is: U.S. is the strongest country in the world, and weaker countries who wish to become the strongest one some day unite against the stronger countries THROUGHOUT history. It is just the smarter thing to do. By virtue of being the world's only true superpower, the U.S. is wearing a target on its back.
Originally posted by chensta
wow....i gave up on about 5 pages, but this has to be the most interesting half an hour of reading ive ever had. Anyway i registered so i can post my opinions, and im gonna make it short and simple.
First of all, i'd like to say im Chinese, but lives in Australia
1) War betwee USA and China is bad for all
War between USA and China with nukes is REALLY bad for all
2) In a fair fight - ie fighter vs fighter, marine vs marine, China gets whooped. But the gap is closing.
3) USA will not be able to conquer China, and China will not be able to conquer USA, in a war for conquering, it will be a big stalemate.
4) USA can significantly weaken China's millitary power, infastracture, economy etc, but will the gain ouweigh the political and social consquences? Probably not.
5) Ive been living here for a while now (Australia), and I think Australia and China gets alone quite well. And in a case of a US - China war, im pretty sure Australia will stay out of it, well at least thats what the people want (look at the war on terror for example).
I dont know if its been mentioned in some of the later posts, but what if the US, with their FBI, CIA or whateva creates a little sceneario to frame China, and put them in bad light, and therefore have an excuse to attack. Im not as smart as these special agency people, but say:
Just in a period where China - taiwan tension is high, some special agents organises a little bmbing on some goverment agencies in Taiwan, kills alot of people. Everyone will ofcourse think it was the Chinese who launched the attack, and ofcourse, the big brother US of A will step in and save the day.
I am not as informed as some of the people in this forums, but i gather that the Gap between US and China is closing, and sometimes in the future, CHina willl overtake US...will they not? ANd if so, what will the US reaction be, if they are not the #1 nation in the world.
Well i have to go somewhere now, interesting to see what you guys think. Like i said, im nto a whiz at this kinda stuff, its just what i think.
The most important thing i reckon is, I HOPE THERE WILL BE NO WAR BETWEEN US - CHINA, or any other nations. I like my life, it could be better, but it could be alot worse if nukes start dropping, and i have babies with 2 heads :S
Hope what ever people say here will never have any importance