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Bushfires in Victoria kill 76, death toll will rise [update: 181 dead]

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posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by iced_blue
me and my school are doing all we can to help the victims of this great tragedy, in a day we raised over $1,500 it doesn't seem like much but we're trying our best.



Well done champ


Every little bit helps.

Mungo




posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 11:02 PM
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Barack Obama has recently payed his respects to those who have lost their lives to this fire. he has also offered support the people working around the clock trying to put out these fires.
nice work Barack




The US, along with New Zealand and Britain, is willing to lend a hand and about 35 American firefighting operation chiefs, aviation managers, planning section chiefs and specialists in land rehabilitation are waiting for final orders to help bolster the effort to control the blazes.

Mr Rudd said the sympathetic response from international friends was "an expression of our common humanity".



www.news.com.au...



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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That's great news. I felt we were always forgotten by the American's in times of need which was sad because we've always helped them and other countries.
Obama



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 11:10 PM
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last year we got help from Brittan but i don't remember if America did anything(I'm not saying they didn't i just don't remember).
It's good to see America helping us out.

Kevins gonna owe Barack, big time



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 11:45 PM
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Without starting a political discussion, why would we/Rudd owe Obama "big time"?

We've helped out with their disasters in one way or another and had our troops helping Bush this whole time.



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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Stop trying to blame the politicians for this, it's a bush fire and people who live in the bush have a responsibility to keep there land clear of fuels (trees, long grass, rubbish ect.) They also know full well the risk and dangers of wildfire when living in these areas.
keep in mind that a lot of these fire are not in rural areas but built up urban towns, these people aren't prepared for these types of fires, it hasn't happened before.
As for the policy of stay and defend or leave early, the only reason this policy exists is because it is illegal in victoria for the CFA or any other agency to force you to evacuate. People were told well ahead of time that this would be the worst fire conditions in history, they should of been leaving on friday night, not on saturday when they saw the flames coming. The policy works but people need to get a better understanding of the word "early" and in these fires you could of had all the state of the art fire suppression systems, you still would of had no chance of stopping it.
And before you all start bitching and saying I don't know what I'm talking about, you might want to consider the fact that I'm one of the people trying to put this thing out.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 12:56 AM
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A touching picture for the forgotten victims of this tragedy:




posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:12 AM
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I don't donate money to charities as a rule, except for the Royal Children's Hospital appeal each year. Stuff what happens overseas, they can take care of themselves with their governments - charity begins at home.

This is only the second time that I am going to donate money for a specific cause. It's too close to home to not want to help the people affected. The fires could have been on my suburban fringe area too, but I'm on the other side of town.

I reckon if Victorians can't donate to help for this cause, then they never will and should be feeling a little ashamed that they were lucky they were safe. Cough up and use some of Krudd's payout plan to help these people. Don't let them think that they're being abandoned when they need the help.

My son is taking all the 5c pieces in the house to his Kinder appeal, so he will know he is helping too.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by iced_blue
me and my school are doing all we can to help the victims of this great tragedy, in a day we raised over $1,500 it doesn't seem like much but we're trying our best.



That is Great Work Aussie daughter/son
,what do you mean ...



" in a day we raised over $1,500 it doesn't seem like much but we're trying our best."


That is Well Done, $1,500 is a lot of money to be raised at a school in one day.
I haven't donated yet when I do it can't be that much.


Zelong.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:26 AM
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i know it is alot of money but I mean $1,500 wont exactly re-build a house.
Also it's not what we should have considering we have over 5,000 people at our school.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:35 AM
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i feel that thosE pictures look weird how there is bright light above the sky and everything is burning under it?!! WEIRD!



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:55 AM
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Myself and my fiancé plan on donating our next pay to the bushfire appeal. We have a history of firefighters and deaths on both sides of our family (my fiancées grandfather was killed in his fire truck during the 1983 fires). It doesn't feel like we are doing enough to help though, we are feeling helpless.

I can tell you one thing, I've been tossing up the idea for 2 years now about joining the Rural Fire Service up here in NSW and this has made up my mind. I'll be applying as soon as I possibly can.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:07 AM
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it is weird to think about it look at the scale of the destuction, watch how many people in different areas had no idea it was coming. Wall of flames? there describing it, and it seems everywhere on earth there is weird weather pattens going on in England a months rainfall and heavy snow. No grit left Etc.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:11 AM
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this isn't exactly strange for Australia. Yes we've never had anything of this extent but it's not exactly strange. the only thing that seems strange to me is why people would light them.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:18 AM
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light them, How many we talking?



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:24 AM
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This destruction wasn't just from one or two fires mate. There were up to 100 fires all burning on different fronts, joining together, changing direction unpredictably.

As Kevin Rudd put it: "These arsonists need to be locked up and left there to rot" (his exact words) and I do not think you will find many Aussies that disagree.

What makes this worse is that while conditions during this week will be much less hazardous, they still have 60 uncontrolled fires burning and they expect the same conditions this coming weekend as what we just had on Saturday. This isn't over yet people, not by a longshot.

[edit on 10/2/2009 by Kryties]



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:26 AM
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Just watched the news the global warming explaination has been said to be the cause according to leading scientists allready?

Even though that theory has been debunked!

visit www.abd.org.uk...



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:29 AM
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what prove have they got about arson to be the reason why. Can it not be somthing else 100s of fires come on thats pritty extreme. join to together very quick and re light after being put out. But the firefighters saying they must of came back to re light it! who would do that? it dont make sense! Like ive heard many times "Who would do that"? Weird! Also on the bbc news there was a pscholigist (sorry if spelling is bad) saying he didnt understand why somone or people would do such a thing. As it didnt make sense pritty much because he couldnt imagine how it could be in human nature for a person to start 100's or more fires on a revenge compaign unless it was a compaign on life or somthing! did anyone see it? i work nights and see early morning news.

[edit on 10-2-2009 by theflashor]



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:31 AM
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Who cares. Quite frankly those scientists are just trying to get their face on TV. Down here in Australia we are more concerned with how to help those thousands of people who have just had their homes burnt to the ground and with catching those responsible for lighting the fires.

It must be said though that not all the fires were started by arsonists, many flared up on their own or were accidents caused by workers grinding metal etc etc.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 02:35 AM
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it's got about as much to do with global warming as it does with brad pitt - zero.

i hate this global warming bull and now they're attatching it to these fires too!




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