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Bushfires in Victoria kill 76, death toll will rise [update: 181 dead]

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posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 07:33 AM
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An interactive map for those not familiar with Victoria to show the extent of these fires:

mp3.news.com.au...




posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 07:42 AM
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What a Terrible Day! I live in Melbourne and found out my friend knew someone from her school that died. I have never seen anything like it, though i only wittnessed it on the news I can't imagine what it would have been like seeing it in front of you!

It was so unbelievably windy as well being the hottest day on record, so it was almost inevitable this was going to happen.

There is a few videos up on youtube taken by people who where inthe vicinity of one of hte fires. The scary thing is it wasnt just happening in the bush, some fires started in Melbourne's outer suburbs , like narre warren south. There is also a video of a fire burning outof control on the main road in Ferntree Gully, I have never seen a wild fire just burning down a main surburban street! its Sureal. These suburban fires were probably started by nutcases as well, thats the scary thing.

I'll Post up the videos, sorry there are a few good ones:

Narre Warren South Aftermath


Narre Warren South Street During Fire


Small (hah) Fire on Burwood Highway, In Fernree Gully area


Churchill, Victoria


News Story:



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 08:54 AM
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In my 15 years of firefighting, this is the worst I've ever seen. I haven't been able to go out due to a small back injury but I'm going down the station in the morning to talk the boss into letting me out on the next crew anyway. I cant stand just sitting here doing nothing, the death tolls at 96 last time I heard



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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Death toll now at 108... The Queen, in her ivory tower, has offered her sympathy for the victims and families.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 05:16 PM
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I live in the bush south of Perth and we are expecting similar weather this week. 40C and high winds. Just have that feeling that the fire bugs , seeing the footage from Victoria, will want their own kicks.

not mentioned is that the majority of emergency service personnel fighting the fires are volunteers. a lot of the guys/girls have been on the fire front not knowing if their own homes have been destroyed or loved ones safe. What a great sense of community that is. If only the world as a whole had that same collective spirit.

anyway guys, keep safe and we in the West are thinking off you.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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i can't believe how out of hand it's all gotten.

i sincerely hope you all get some relief soon and for those left ... get out of dodge.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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"this is mass murder" Well said Prime Minster Rudd
Thank you to all the fire-fighters and volunteers, having fought a firestorm in Canberra, my thoughts and gratitude is with you.

Condolences to those who have loss their homes and loved ones.
A special "thinking of you " goes to my best mate whose brother is missing 2 days in Victoria.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 06:47 PM
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108 dead so far


It's two extremes from the top of the east coast to the bottom.

QLD in flood, NSW & VIC with bush fires.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 07:57 PM
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Looking at this photo looks like the owners haven't been doing any basic Hazard Abatement... e.g. Cutting back brush and Trees. Also I remember staying at a friends house he had a reverse sprinkler system on his roof. Where from the peak of the roof was sprinklers that created a mist over the house. Twice his house has been saved by this system over the yrs.

The Cost was only a couple thousand Dollars and used grey water etc in a storage system.

[edit on 8-2-2009 by greenfruit]



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 08:13 PM
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Dude, the wind has been so strong, some places are just being engulfed by huge fire balls. Check out the wind, no way is a sprinkler system going to help unfortunately


www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

check out how fast it moves at 1:06

[edit on 8/2/2009 by just_julie]



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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Death toll has already reached 130.
Just wanted to update.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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News Update : 130 dead

more then 70 people died in Kinglake fire which burnt 220,00 hectares

the town of Marysville has been completely destroyed.

these Bloody arsonists need to be locked up they have murderd nearly 100 innocent people.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 11:11 PM
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I heard the arsonists, if and when caught, will be charged with 'Reckless Murder' which carries a minimum life sentence as opposed to 'arson' which is 15 years.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 11:14 PM
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I wonder what they will do if it was just kiddies playing with matches?



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 11:27 PM
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Without arson this was going to happen anyway i think,not as bad but it was coming.

I also hope they catch and punish the right people.
As some of these fire's might have been an accident instead of deliberate.

I fear there is going to be a lot of blame going around,cigarette smokers will be look upon with suspicion,workers grinding metal,ect.




[edit on 8-2-2009 by SvenTheBerserK]



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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Source:bigpondnews.com...

Death toll from blazes -130
Monday, February 09, 2009 » 03:54pm

The death toll from the Victorian bushfires has reached 130 and authorities warn the toll is likely to rise further.


The death toll from Victoria's bushfires could top 200 as authorities sift through the piles of ash that were once entire communities.

The official toll rose to 130 on Monday.

More than 70 of those people died in the Kinglake fire, which has burnt through 220,000 hectares of the central highlands.

Senior fire and parks officials have told staff they fear there may be more than 200 deaths when the heartbreaking task of cleaning up is complete.

The fires are already Australia's worst natural disaster by far: worse than Ash Wednesday, Black Friday, Cyclone Tracy and even the Bali bombings.

Country Fire Authority (CFA) volunteers are struggling to cope emotionally.

There are so many bodies. Many don't even look like bodies and will require the attentions of specialised police Disaster Victim Identification (DVI) teams.

DVI coordinator Inspector Greg Hough said the identification process would take a long time as fatalities had occurred across the state.

He called on families to do what they could to help identify loved ones but conceded that in many cases 'it will be done forensically'.

More than 750 houses have been destroyed and 330,000 hectares have been burnt.

There are 31 fires still raging throughout Victoria after record heat and wild winds set the state ablaze on Saturday.

The biggest current threat is in Beechworth, in the state's north, where a blaze is burning out of control, while the Churchill fires in Gippsland are also threatening homes.

The Beechworth blaze has burnt 30,000 hectares and continues to threaten the communities of Stanley, Bruarong, Dederang, Gundowring, Gundowring Upper, Kancoona, Kancoona South, Coral Bank,

Glenn Creek and Running Creek.

The fire has skirted Beechworth and is heading towards Yackandandah.

'There are seven or eight small settlements in the path of this fire and those residents have been urged to get their fire plans under way,' Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE) spokesman Geoff Russell said.

All fire-devastated areas will be treated as crime scenes to determine if arson was involved, Victorian Police Commissioner Christine Nixon said.

Emergency relief operations are underway throughout the state including a massive exercise at Whittlesea, which is serving survivors from Kinglake and its surrounds.

At least 20 people have been killed in Kinglake and nine in Kinglake West with dozens more fatalities in nearby communities, while at least 550 homes have been razed.

As refugees flooded down the mountain from Kinglake and surrounding townships into Whittlesea, relief workers headed the other way, taking desperately needed food, water and fuel supplies to those who have remained behind.

The death toll surpasses that from the 1983 Ash Wednesday bushfires, in which 75 people died in Victoria and South Australia, and the Black Friday bushfires of 1939, which killed 71



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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Bush fires are taken so seriously in these areas that even children are not that stupid.
They know what it means to mess around like that.
The sheer speed of the fire (120 km/hr) was the issue that cost so many lives.
The heat that day combind with the dryness of the bush added to the wind speed created the perfect storm. it was impossible to out run in a car let alone on foot.

Our thoughts go out to those who lost there lives.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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I think the arsonists should be given life without chance of parole, and be put in prisons with a known history of sexual abuse between inmates...



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by SvenTheBerserK
Without arson this was going to happen anyway i think,not as bad but it was coming.

I also hope they catch and punish the right people.
As some of these fire's might have been an accident instead of deliberate.

I fear there is going to be a lot of blame going around,cigarette smokers will be look upon with suspicion,workers grinding metal,ect.

[edit on 8-2-2009 by SvenTheBerserK]



yes, this would have happened anyway, but not to this extent.

these didn't start from a cigarette butt, these fires were deliberetly light using accelerant like petrol and then maybe a cigarette butt.




[edit on 8-2-2009 by iced_blue]



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 12:31 AM
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Arsonists are terrorists...

They should be shot. in front of a wall or otherwise.

There are things that I as a retired vol firefighter advocate.

One that fire survival should be a required course in all high schools.
and this means not only how to survive a house fire but how to survive wild lands fires.

All communities in brush-fire areas should have what fire fighter call "safe zones". 5 to 10 acres of cleared area for people to go to as a last resort.

Basic wild-lands fire fighting should be a required collage course.


In the US we use military air craft extensivly in fire fighting.
www.ngb.army.mil...
www.fire.ca.gov...

many of the non military firefighting air craft are ex military
www.richard-seaman.com...



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