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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
get my point?
Or do you just want a reason to have a go at me?
I feel bad for all the people who have lost and are suffering, and i wish everything and anything for you.
But the media, has to stop acting like this, and start acting accordingly.
POLICE are close to arresting an arsonist suspected of setting a blaze in Gippsland, as reports emerge that several fresh fires were deliberately lit in the Beechworth area overnight.
Victorian Premier John Brumby said he believed the 100 police officers in Taskforce Phoenix were "close to finalising investigations" into the south Gippsland fires which left 21 people dead.
He said it was virtually impossible to believe that people would be still lighting fires given the current situation.
It is believed police have a description of a car used by those allegedly responsible for the overnight blazes in Beechworth.
Originally posted by Kalrana
However the assumption by some re global warming is at fault is not quite correct.
Now i work at the moment in forestry/plantation management and me and all the guys that work there have been telling the local councils, state governments and departments and just about anyone that will listen that this was going to happen.
In some areas you can get a buildup of 3-4 tonnes per hectare, per year of leaves, twigs. branches and dead fallen trees. The leaves and small branches may rot away quite quickly but the others dont. Multiply this by the number of years since a fire went through and quite quickly very dangerous conditions develop. If proper forestry practices based on the Australia environment that has been shaped by thousands of years of Aboriginal burning and FUEL reduction was used then the fires would not have been so hot or spread so quick and lives would have been saved. We push for reconcilliation yet we totally ignore how they managed this country.
These practices have fallen out of favour due to pressures from the greens and an ideology adapted from overseas that is not suitable for Australian conditions and the flora that grows here.
Forests MUST be burned on a regular basis to reduce fuel loads, thin out the weaker trees and allow for the regeneration of some plant species.
Originally posted by Zelong
Now watch all these Do-gooder politicians Act like their in Shock at what has happened when we the People of Australia know that it's these Morons that should be preventing these Fire-Storms from happening by Allowing BACK BURNING in Winter time to Prevent Fire-Storms but NO these Wankers feel they need the Greens,tree hugers votes!!
What about the Animals they have no where to go!!! if there was BACK BURNINGdone these poor Animals would of had some where to run for Safety!!
Politicians have been warned not to play the blame game as debate starts about the causes of the savage fires in Victoria.
ARSON has been ruled out as the cause of the Kinglake bushfire, one of the deadliest of the Victoria fires.
More than 100 people died in the fires that burnt through Kilmore, Humevale, Taggerty and Wandong and surrounds on Saturday.
Police have also ruled out arson in three other blazes - Bendigo-Maiden Gully, Redesdale and Mudgeegonga.
Banks 'breaking all the rules' in bushfire
Families have lost everything in Australia's worst peace-time disaster, but how keen are the banks to put aside profit and show compassion to Victoria's devastated bushfire victims?
Each of the major banks - ANZ, Commonwealth, NAB and Westpac - have made $1 million donations to bushfire appeals.
Despair and hope in Narbethong
But for victims whose homes and possessions have been obliterated, their bank mortgages - and therefore their repayment obligations - remain intact.
Many of the banks could not say today whether they would go as far as dissolving a home loan for someone who has lost everything.
But all said they were encouraging customers to tell the bank of their hardship and would do what was possible.
Westpac has even flown its senior executive in charge of retail banking to fire-ravaged Victoria to experience the devastation first-hand and help ensure the bank treats clients compassionately.
The four major banks say they will suspend fire victims' mortgages for three months - the period insurance claims normally take to be processed.
Despite reports this morning some banks had told customers they would have to repay interest accrued in that period, each bank confirmed to smh.com.au that they were giving victims a three-month break from their mortgages.
ANZ and NAB were also offering a $10,000 grant to customers whose homes have been completely destroyed in the fires.
All the banks were also dumping assorted fees, such as for refinancing and for early term deposit withdrawals.
"I think the overwhelming key message from us is that we will do what it takes," said a NAB spokeswoman.
Peter Hanlon, Westpac's retail and business banking group executive, ditched the suit and Italian shoes and pulled on jeans and R M Williams' boots when he flew from Sydney to be on the ground in the bushfire zone.
He says the bank is regularly breaking its own rules.
"This is Australia's largest natural disaster in its European history ... the disaster relief package works really well but it's redundant because we are overstepping it," he said.
The bank would seriously consider completely dissolving a home loan for a bushfire victim, he said.
"Yes we would, we've done it before ... and before this is over I'm sure we will do it here and quite frankly all the other banks will too.
"People say why don't you do it for everybody but not everyone wants to do that. Some people don't want charity and don't want to be seen as helpless."
Mr Hanlon arrived in Victoria on Tuesday, and has spent time in some of the worst affected towns such as Whittlesea and Kinglake.
"I'm getting the information from the affected people first hand which means I make a phone call and because of my position, things happen quickly," he said.
"We sat down with a customer in Kinglake yesterday ... these people wanted to talk but could hardly get the words out."
"They've lost everything, were wearing clothes that have been donated, said they weren't insured, and were cashing a cheque for $1000 from the Victorian government.
"So we authorised a $20,000 payment there and then."
There were many examples of banks breaking the rules to help victims, he said, such as the setting up mini branches in libraries where people could cash relief cheques.
"People were worried that if they left the towns they couldn't get back in because of road blocks, so they were staying at relief centres, sleeping in halls, and they've got these relief cheques with no access to a bank facility," he said.
"What the team did, breaking all the rules, is shove some money in a cash box, take some scraps of paper for deposit slips and then set up in the local library.
"It normally takes us six months to open a branch and they did it in 30 minutes."
In New Orleans after hurricane Katrina, it took eight weeks for makeshift banks to be set up, he said.
The reach of the banks into the business community has also helped provide relief to fire victims.
Bank managers who have spent years cosying up to business clients to sell insurance have been able to use those relationships in a good cause.
Mr Hanlon told of business clients contacting their bank managers to donate generators and mattresses to relief centres.
At the mini-branches in Kinglake and Whittlesea, the rudimentary cash-boxes and paper scraps have heralded a more old-fashioned, personal banking experience.
"Ninety second transactions are taking 10 minutes, because everyone wants to talk," Mr Hanlon said.
"We are going to have a lot of scarred staff because they're doling out cash and listening to 200 to 300 stories a day of what has happened to these people.
"It's the same with emergency services people ... the shock wave of this tragedy is going to flow through so many people."