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Originally posted by PrisonerOfSociety
Question: If the Sun suddenly exploded, would it take 8minutes for the Earth to spin off at 90degrees?
Originally posted by Pilgrum
If we consider the internal resistance of a reasonably healthy lead-acid cell it doesn't take much of an over-voltage to produce the 100A current spike. You really can't separate the voltage/current/impedance relationship (Ohm's law).
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by houdanny
Wikepedia? Wikepedia is your source??????
Under proper test conditions? You sure of that? Hell, six years ago, we had a large forensic lab verify that we were getting 2.1 times unity of wattage using hydrogen plasma, and a trick cathode, they certified the results, and you haven't seen those results, either have you?
Better not, as they are under a strict non-disclosure agreement.
Why would people get killed? And by who?
So someone is going to announce, "Guess what? No more gasoline is required. No more coal is needed. No natural gas! In fact, we can extract all the energy we need, at will, at any point in the universe!"
Not going to be a popular idea with everyone. It throws entire nations resource valuations down the toilet. Trillions of dollars of assets are overnight - worthless.
The real question would be - who wouldn't want to stop this?
A year ago, I held in my hand, a perfect electret. Had been running for years, I shorted it out several times, and would watch the thing spool back up in a couple seconds. On the way to sign the European licensing agreement, the inventor, who had called me just the night before, was found dead, and within days, his lab, all late-generation electrets, his equipment, computers, lab notes, and safe were gone.
Do not presume to tell me about what is there and what is not.
For clarification - - No one said anything here about free energy. Only you!
That one-watt input??? That ain't free, baby!
And since you are so very ignorant of what is available, what is possible, what has already been done, and your source of scientific data seems to be Wikipedia, in all honesty, I wouldn't trust you to market a box of Girl Scout Cookies.
Originally posted by DragonsDemesne
I don't see any mistakes in the math in the table above, so that's not an issue. I can't think of any immediate explanations right now, but I have a few questions and comments to consider. I did go through all the posts, but I may have missed some information about your setup, so if I ask a question that's been answered already sorry.
Desulfurification: I don't really know anything about this, but if this is the issue, one of the following might tell you this is the case:
-were all trials done with the same battery?
-do you have other batteries of the same kind that you can get data on?
-could you get data on different kinds of batteries, or is that possible?
Other Questions that may or may not be important:
-what method are you charging the battery with? I'm just wondering if there could be something in the method that could cause measurement error
-are there any really big (like several megaohm) resistances in the circuit anywhere?
Given that your COP was quite consistent, except for trial 17, which should probably be discounted, whatever is happening likely has a definite scientific explanation, as opposed to experimental errors. The explanation isn't necessarily radiant energy or whatever, but the same thing is happening in every trial; it is reliable, whatever it is. If I had your results and equipment here right now, I'd probably try tweaking things slightly and seeing how that affected things in the hopes that I could learn more about what was actually happening. In particular, I'd try to rule out desulfurication if possible.
The efficiency of the circuit and motor is not the same as the COP. The efficiency is less than 100% while the COP is greater than 1. The energy transfered for work by the primary battery has an efficiency of less than 100% as there are losses mentioned.