Originally posted by houdanny
I have researhed very very thoroughly into overunity and perpetual motion for a paper I wrote. Its impossible to get something from nothing. The laws of thermodynamics prohibit it, and they're the most proven ideas of science. Use solar power to knock of some of the cost, but if you want a long term solution I suggest getting a radiactive powerhouse. They resently came out with miny ones that can power a block for years and years.It will be pricy though. Sorry I don't have a link, but google will proby turn up some answers.
Originally posted by dooper
If anyone thinks that obtaining power out of the air is impossible, let me share this.
Run 200' of fine, insulated wire, the higher above the ground, the better. You can string it straight, and you can coil it to shorten the stretched length.
This wire will load up with thousands of volts, obtained from the atmosphere. No amps, but lots and lots of volts.
Originally posted by XL5
Dooper, if a system can fill a gas tank with a tiny trigger energy, I don't care how it did it, but I would want to know how to build the trigger. Without knowing how it did it, it would not be easy to make. As long as I can copy the device, I could care less where the energy comes from or how it works. I just wanted to know if you measured the input/output energy and not just the voltage, I intended no offence or disbelief.
If it can not be looped and uses lead acid batteries, I won't believe it. Most older lead acid batteries have a bit of hard sulfur on the plates, so if a circuit can disolve that layer, it will look like free energy. If they used a large capacitor and it could be looped back, sure, I'd personally buy a device to copy off of.
I agree with the cooling effect but not with the fact it can not be measured, because if it can not be measured, does that mean it cannot be used in electric motors as well. If it can fill a battery, it should be able to fill a capacitor, thus if the trigger runs on 12V and outputs 13V, it can be looped even if you do need an inverter.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
The problem you are going to run into is, anything that will do what you want it to do, will be expensive.
Solar energy is a great source for [supplemental energy, but it is unreliable. At best, you average 12 hours a day sunlight (averaged over a year). The efficiency of available solar panels versus their price at anything other than a wholesale level is prohibitive. And a cloudy day tends to make a lot less solar electricity. In short, to make a home work off the grid based on solar energy, you would have to have a massive battery bank, a huge inverter to change the DC into AC household current, and tremendous overkill when sunlight is available to make up for the down times.
I think you mentioned a lack of running water in your area, so hydro-electric is out.
Wind is probably your best bet if there are steady winds where you live. But in order to have something that will remove you from the grid, you will have to have something a lot bigger than the mostly ornamental units I find most people tend to think of for wind energy. Also, you can't rely solely on the wind either (although it can be much more reliable than solar) since there are usually calm days in most areas. That means we're back to the battery bank and inverter.
It's more than just having the money to go out and buy what you want;
the thing you seem to be wanting doesn't exist yet.
If you want to know why, my impression would be that it is simply not financially feasible for the average person to research something like this, go through the rigors of obtaining a patent, then trying to find someone who will be willing to put up the cash to build them for resale. A small manufacturing facility will cost at least $1,000,000 to set up and a nice additional chunk of change to operate.
No one works for free. I have a research facility I build privately. It took over 7 years of living like a pauper while driving over the road (pretty good money) to get it to where it is now, which is still a long way from what I really need.
Now, think about this: you now know someone who is trying to create a real home energy production device.
That person (me) has spent almost a decade of his life sacrificing in order to try and do it. He has spent untold amounts of cash on materials for various experiments and for tools and equipment to allow him to work with those materials. He has invested his time, his energy, and his constant thought into the research.
I'm not gonna let something like this go for anything under 8 figures.
If I can't get that, I'll build one for myself and watch while everyone else's lights go out but mine.
I doubt any other inventor would feel any different.
With a little luck, maybe soon you can go out and buy a 'miraculous' device that will remove you from the grid. For now though, it takes more than money: it takes knowledge too.