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Originally posted by HIFIGUY
No..to refresh your memory, I thought you were done debating the same old issue.
And secondly, the simple analogy that two people can look at the same thing and see 2 different perspectives.
Originally posted by TruthParadox
reply to post by badmedia
I think that Jesus is a good guy, if he ever existed .
My 'beef' is not with him, just the people who are somehow ok with the thought that uncle Bob is going to be tortured for eternity just because he's a realist.
Seriously, think about it. That's really pretty sick once you get down to it.
One of the main reasons I argue against Christianity is because of the belief in Hell. I believe it's not mentaly healthy to be brainwashed into thinking it's ok that someone who doesn't believe in the extraordinary will be tortured forever.
Originally posted by amazed
Originally posted by sotp
reply to post by infolurker
Whilst plenty of people have died as a result of both religion and atheism, I don't think it's fair to tar followers of either doctrine with the same brush. I don't believe the Christian posters on this board are responsible for the crusades, nor do I believe the atheists here are responsible for the actions of Hitler or Stalin. In both sides of that argument those in power have corrupted doctrines to serve their own twisted needs. Of course that is wrong, but it has nothing to do with the average ATS poster.
Actually Hitler was not an atheist, he believed in the bibles god.
Hitler held strong faith in all his convictions. He justified his fight for the German people and against Jews by using Godly and Biblical reasoning. Indeed, one of his most revealing statements makes this quite clear:
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
Another interesting analogy is Hitler and his "spiritual" awakening within of the Thule Society. The Thule Society is the German Brotherhood of Death secret society and it has as it's symbol , the skull and crossbones. This was also the Nazi SS symbol and the Freemasons use the skull and crossbones in their ceremonies. The extremely secretive USA society , Skull and Bones is believed to be the American branch of the original German Thule Society ! Ref: . The Thule Society The leader of the Thule Society in the 1930s was Dietrich Eckhart .He was Hitler's mentor who nurtured and led him into the world of the supernatural . In the Thule group in Munich , Eckhart, Alfred Rosenberg and Hitler held seances and communicated with demons. Eckhart believed that a dark spirit had informed him that he was the guardian of the coming "great one" , the "Antichrist". Eckhart said on his deathbed ; " Follow Hitler ; he will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. I have initiated him into the secret doctrine, opened his centres in vision and given him the means to communicate with the powers." When Eckhart had completed his "training" of Hitler ; Hitler described his spiritual experiences as a transformation and believed his had been "Born Anew", "Born Again"!
Originally posted by Hellish-D
reply to post by undo
Omnipotent means that he must be able to lift it, otherwise it is a limit to his power.
free will: an omniscient omnipresent omnipotent God creates a rock so big, even he can't lift it.