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We will be lining up for a microchip

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posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 10:49 AM
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All those millions of people to operate on to give them a chip? not needed, you have a mobile phone, that has a chip, most problems sorted, got ya.




posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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Main point ill re-edify, the human race is not cattle to a lifeless system which is fed by apathy, greed, subversion, blindness, and you, the stupid idiot shopper who lost all hope and need to fill a hole. hey you may have validly needed it, and im grateful i live in a world where we at the least are populated enough to scare the elitists power seekeres a little because otherwise as they example they enjoy being the dominant dual paradigm.
Black and white..

The microchip diminshes what it means to be human, and reminds you of a sacred duty you by nature have no attachement to, it is a attachement of contrivance by greedy soothe toungued liars. Which is why AMERICANS SHOULD ALL DENY THESE IDIOTS THE PLEASURE OF MOCKING YOU!

[edit on 7-2-2009 by mastermind77]



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by wheresthetruth
Lets look at the progression of tracking and you will see that you are already being tracked.
So, we are getting there. Through the threat of fear, they will in fact make people line up without a harsh word spoken or a single shot fired. In 2 generations, it will be the rule, not the exception. Baby boomers, GenX and Y will resist, but the millenium generations will grow up in a world where this is normal and acceptable. As for the rest of us...they are just waiting on nature to take care of the resistance.


I absolutely agree. Here in South Africa we have a system on the Cellphones called "look for me". You can be tracked to the exact spot by means of cellphone tower triangulation - as long as you cellphone is switched on.

When I am worried about my teenager son's whereabouts late at night, I just dial a code and get his exact position via sms.

Already we are getting used to make use of personal tracking devices.

The latest gadget is a wrist watch type gadget which you can utilize to track family members, employees and personal belongings. The step to RFID will be almost a natural and seamless one.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by operation mindcrime
And how many people (beside the highly respected 10.000 members on ATS) will be aware of this being a bad thing.....

Look everybody it's free...hurry hurry.

You know how people are, don't you??

I'm not saying everybody will agree to this but ofcourse the larger part of the population will gladly agree on getting a little chip in exchange for free healthcare....people are goofy!!!

Peace

[edit on 6/2/2009 by operation mindcrime]


I'm willing to put good money on the Bible Belt refusing this chip entirely. That's a huge section of the population. Then there are those that don't believe, but have heard enough of this mark of the beast stuff to hedge their bets and opt out of it, "just in case".

I just don't see this working out because most people hate what the government has done to this nation, and by-proxy, to other nations. Even though we have a new administration and it's supposedly all different, I still ask people all the time what they think, and it's always the same, "They aren't doing what they need to."

I'll personally never accept the chip. Not because of religion, but because I simply don't trust the government.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 11:31 AM
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Now this is a serious question and I hope its not too off topic but:
Is it possible to disable or scramble the "chip implant" with a high strength Gauss magnet? Just run it over the implanted location and destroy it with the high power magnet? Works for PCs and other electronics. Would it work with this?



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 11:31 AM
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Could you post specifically where it says they'll be implanting chips as part of the electronic medical records program?

Thanks.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by GenRadek
Now this is a serious question and I hope its not too off topic but:
Is it possible to disable or scramble the "chip implant" with a high strength Gauss magnet? Just run it over the implanted location and destroy it with the high power magnet? Works for PCs and other electronics. Would it work with this?


I believe it will be relatively easy to remove or deactivate the chip. The problem I see is, that the chip will play such a prominent role in future day-to-day activities, that you will basically starve to death without it. By that I mean that they can implement systems that you will not be able to draw cash from an ATM without positive chip ID. You will not be able to fill up with gas without positive ID and the list continues. Without the chip you will basically be economically blacklisted.

Does this sound familiar? They will absolutely deny such allegations and will only point out the benefits. The ultimate plan is to take total control over your life. If you are a bad boy/girl - you will be blacklisted. You will be denied access to almost everything.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 11:58 AM
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Just another thought. Let's say that they approve new legislation that your drivers license can only be valid via the RFID Chip. (I know that the current capacity of the chip is small - but I also believe that technology can be developed to increase the data size of the chip).

So you will be driving illegally if your drivers license cannot be positively identified on your chip. I promise you, you will get arrested quickly. This is just a fictitious example, but possible........ Again, the list of possible applications continues.....



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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I just don't see this happening.
Yall think people are mindless drones.
Sorry it ain't goig to happen.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Dark Jester
Yall think people are mindless drones.


I respect your opinion, and may this system never be forced on us.

I definitely do not think that people are mindless drones, but there are ways and means to force people to accept things, they do not agree with.

I live in a country where I have to accept certain radical things via legislation, which I do not agree with. If I do not comply, I will be sent to jail.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 12:42 PM
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I'm a little confused. Not to long ago, it was ET's who were implanting chips. If I recall correctly the leap of logic was from them being other forms of intelligent life to agents of the Devil.

Now once again the "other", this time a man of mixed background, is accused of being either an agent of evil or the King of Flies himself.

Why not really connect the imaginary dots - not only is all life not of this earth evil, but our very President is one of them! Yes, I can see it all clearly. There's a reason why Obama's Birth Certificate looks wrong...he wasn't born here on earth. And now, even though the Bible doesn't leave it self open for the possibility of alien life, they are coming from Youggth to enslave us all, in service of the Devil.

Get a grip guys...the implant aren't coming. Why? Well, the Bible would have to be the "word" of God. And if you know a little history, it isn't. From the numerous translations, to the yanking out of sections that didn't suit the new translators personal views, its a corrupt document. Also, the world's a boring place. UFO's sure, Bigfoot, etc. no problem. New species are being discovered all the time. NASA holding back the truth on the Moon, Mars, Et Al - you'd have to be blind not to see that somethings going on. But Bible prophesy, sorry. End time predictions haven't panned out, and there is that pesky problem of religions far older than the Old & New Testaments. Those got here first, and they didn't see the Mark of the Beast, etc.

Another problem with the idea of the implant is the potential for world wide law suits. I don't care how "Evil" evil is. There's no way His Nibs would want to go to court...After all wouldn't the defendants have to swear on the Bible...



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 12:46 PM
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I am with you 100% infolurker!

I am new to posting. Is it posible to spell check? Am I overlooking it?



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 12:50 PM
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Add the bird flu or facsimile thereof and you are right...no chip (which contains your med records and they need to know who gets the inoculations) no cure. In the interests of expediency both can be administered at the same time. Dont take the one and you dont get the other and then you and your family will die. Most will rationalize their displeasure and take it as their survival instinct is stronger....provided that there is no satanic pledge to go along with it (that would make it harder to sell). "Please stay in line. No cutting to the front of the line."



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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Star & flag


IMO we have been baby-stepped into reliance and acceptance of our data, actions and transactions being recorded and monitored electronically. It's also my opinion that these systems have been set up with the sole purpose of failing - thereby facilitating the feasible and welcomed introduction of chip implantation.

Most people thought it convenient when they could buy without having cash on their person. Now most are concerned about card theft and cloning, but still use their card because of its convenience. ID cards can be stolen or forged, as can passports and driving licences. With medical records, while they once would have be kept in a dusty old filing cabinet at your Doctor's surgery, they will be presumably be network accessible to all with the necessary access - and some who illegally or unlawfully obtain that access for themselves.

Even if one was to consider these to be natural (rather than designed) weaknesses in the systems, it is reasonable to conclude that as more defects become apparent, individuals will logically demand increased security for peace of mind.

In this sense, a logical step for TPTB would be to secure this information and capability within one secure place - so why not in the individuals themselves? After all, you can't be stolen from your wallet, glove box or car. As for hacking potential, I suppose this could still continue - however, I don't think it necessarily negates the possibility of a chip being introduced.

If these systems were purposefully set up to fail, TPTB have effectively conditioned the public into actually wanting what TPTB intended all along - in addition to reducing much of the potential resistance in the process. IMO the next steps will be a series of disparate "events" to give the public a final push towards this.

An addendum: For some time I have thought that pieces of a significant jigsaw were being put into place. Until recently, it has been hard to guess the picture. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has realised that the pieces are being placed at an increasing pace - so much so that some can now start to glimpse the scene, link the pieces and guess at the end result.

Peace to you all


[edit on 7/2/09 by lizziejayne]



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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I am right behind you we will be the New Age Freedom Fighters of America ready to stand up for a free America not a land full of puppets.I have personally informed upwards of 30 or so people and counting about these RFID chips and the NAU a well informed America is the only way to fight this.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:18 PM
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I know a lot of people just fine without health insurance. What seems more likely to me, is people taking it when the money systems fail, when people are starving, and the only way for people to get food is to get government money via a chip. But not for free healthcare. Personally I would resort to hollistic or home remedies for as long as I could. I could even help my son for a long time with proper remedies if needed. However, most home remedies require food, herbs, etc, proper nutrition, and I don't know how long I would be able to let my son starve before I broke weak myself. It would take an extremely strong faith in God to not take the chip at that point.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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They don't have to put all your information in the chip, all they have to put there is a unique number (SSN anyone?) that will be keyed to the info in a central database ( which is being built now, eh?). Therefore, size doesn't matter
, and neither does encryption. does anyone have an encrypted social security card?

no magnetic strips on NC drivers licenses yet. Instead, there is an optically read gobbledygook strip. Again, this is just a number keyed to a central data repository. Additionally, NC drivers licenses, since the beginning of 2007, are the proud bearers of a NAU seal, in the form of a hologram, on the back lower right portion of the license. First in the nation, I believe. This seal bears or covers RFID interrogation curcuitry, so it can be read at a distance. As an aside, 30 seconds in the microwave will fix that little problem. Those fine wires are not terribly robust.

In short, their ALREADY doing it, an implanted chip only make it more convenient for them, and harder for us to "lose".

nenothtu out



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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Don't they also have a chip that could possibly help with sex, or developing it? To the Viagra addicts the sex chip. Put it in licenses, passports.. etc. (Someone earlier mentioned they could come out with something to market it for beauty etc, I don't see that as being far off at all..) Chips for kids so they can be found if abducted.. Chip the old crazies... Yeah it doesn't at all look like they are trying to implement this.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by moocowman
How many crack addicts would give their right arm for a fix, or steal someone elses for that matter ?


Thus the obvious and imperative need for a biometric aspect to the chips! After all your chip really should know whether or not you are still alive, right?

I'm guessing the ideal would be RF chip, Biometric chip, and GPS chip, in one tiny combo.

This will introduce things like automated tickets and court summons for public intoxication, trespassing, illegal substance abuse, etc. Once again a great government money maker, and crime prevention is a great selling point.

I'm annoyed that so many people still doubt how much TPTB are foaming at the mouth for this tech. If these things weren't still being ironed out and fool-proofed, we would have already seen a massive influx of brainwashing and desensitizing campaigns.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Ysterlong

Originally posted by GenRadek
Now this is a serious question and I hope its not too off topic but:
Is it possible to disable or scramble the "chip implant" with a high strength Gauss magnet? Just run it over the implanted location and destroy it with the high power magnet? Works for PCs and other electronics. Would it work with this?


I believe it will be relatively easy to remove or deactivate the chip. The problem I see is, that the chip will play such a prominent role in future day-to-day activities, that you will basically starve to death without it. By that I mean that they can implement systems that you will not be able to draw cash from an ATM without positive chip ID. You will not be able to fill up with gas without positive ID and the list continues. Without the chip you will basically be economically blacklisted.

Does this sound familiar? They will absolutely deny such allegations and will only point out the benefits. The ultimate plan is to take total control over your life. If you are a bad boy/girl - you will be blacklisted. You will be denied access to almost everything.


Why would the government do this?
Basically it sounds like the ultimate plan is for the government to be a babysitter to everyone.
The ultimate plan can't be simply to take over our lives so what is the end game?



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