reply to post by BO XIAN
Actually - My issue with the removed post in question was not
that you were offering assistance - in fact I applaud that, as I too (believe it
or not) approach these 'entities and afflictions' from a faith-based perspective and via that which I personally term 'God'.
The core issue - which seemed to get lost in our discussions - was the large copy-n-paste from that referenced website, complete with prices
the helpful books you were directing the person to.
In that form what you post looked far more promotional rather than an offer of assistance..
However - I would certainly encourage you to repost the link/website for the OP
. It can be done without
the copy/paste of pricelists
etc...which is where your post infringed upon this sites T&Cs.
For instance, a post such as:
This website here --------------------- is a site you may find useless.
Within in are some understandings, teachings, assistance that I believe you could benefit from.
Please check it out.
Something like that would be fine and dandy and certainly within the T&Cs of this site.
I do not see it as a case of a Mod being cemented or getting all carried away - as the say goes, it takes two to tango...so perhaps you also may need
to review how you approached our discussions and the failure/own biases to see where I was coming from also. However that said, I do sincerely
apologise if I came across that way.
Anyway - this is hardly on-topic and indeed any further discussion of same I'd welcome via u2u....so to address the OP:
How do you address this? How do you 'fight with an entity' as your thread title indicates? Short answer
: You don't. You don't fight with
them at all.
The long answer
- and please bear in mind this is from my own understandings/teachings/experience:
One of the little tricks these *things* like to play is the 'Make it Personal Game'.
Through your love for the person afflicted, or through a personalised attack upon yourself there is a bit of a trap - easy to fall into no doubt, done
it many times myself in the past - to make it a personal battle.
A You Vs Them engagement.
Right there is were things can start getting a little bit messy.
For when you personalise an engagement with these things what you essentially are doing is stepping on the play field yourself...semi-alone...you Vs
By doing so you also - in some ways - ostracise yourself from your other more adept 'team-mate/s' for want of better way of describing it.
Who are your other team-mate/s? ..well...your own perception and understandings are of course your own.
For me - as mentioned above - I come from a rather strong faith-based perspective. My perspectives are also culturally influenced by my own ethnic
For me the real
power for dealing with and dealing to these *things* is not mine at all
. No way. All I do is essentially 'hand it
over' to that which I term 'GOD'.
You yourself may have your own name/s, understandings of what that is....personally I kinda think at the end of the day we're just arguing
semantics...different viewpoints, names etc of what is essentially the same thing.
When we take these things on ourselves we also somewhat step outside the coverage of those governances...that/those 'higher powers' who are FAR more
capable of dealing with these things than we mere mortals could ever be.
From experience it is when we personalise the battle...when we go into it with the mindset of "Yeah - bring it on buddy, I'll deal to you" that we
are only so effective...eventually you'll come up against something that will hand you your butt on a platter. Been there, done that, got the licks
for it...seen others take their licks for it too.
Ego is a hinderance.
Handing it over to your 'higher power/God/Good/Light/insert-name-here' is the key.
How do you do that? Again thats really up to your own perspectives/beliefs/understandings.
For me I pray.
Firstly I pray to give praise, to acknowledge that Higher Power/God, to firstly essentially draw that line in the sand of acknowledging to that Higher
Power that I am but a servant...complete with faults and failings...I am in many ways not worthy of even being called/sent to assist that person. Yet
also ask to serve truthly and humbly...acknowledging that it is also a blessing and an honour to serve...to serve that Higher Power but also to serve
those who require the assistance.
In doing so I place myself under the governances (and more importantly the protection) of that Higher Power - and I can tell you that NEVER once,
after doing so, have I ever taken a lick since....for essentially all I become is servant - not Master. Any glory, kudos, whatever for what is done is
that which I term Gods and His alone.
Another thing to throw into the mix: Prayer doesn't have
to be any kneeling down, clasping of hands, shutting of eyes and getting all preachy
Prayer - to me anyway - is about connection. HOW you connect is also just as varied as the people who seek to connect.
You may find that *prayer* is more *effective* for you not in words, but in actions. Through serving others you effectively *pray*. Through good works
for others, you are sending *prayer*.
For me *prayer* is praise, it is love, it is peace and connection.
You can show your brother love or connection or assistance...through helping them, through sending them a smile, through picking up their heavy bags,
whatever...its the mindset behind the actions that matters...essentially the action is then just the visible/externalised active effect of that loving
you're a praying type person...then pray for her.
Pray that whatever is troubling her shall be dealt with by whatever Higher Power you personally term it/believe in. Call it in. Send the request
up...ask for that Higher Powers intervention here, for the benefit of your friend. Place the task of dealing with it in the hands of that Higher
Power. Place the call, the judgement, in His hands.
If you're not so much into the prayer/faith thing...then *pray* through actions, through servitude...through continuing what you are doing.
Looking after and out for the person. Showing them love and compassion. Focussing energy and desire that they will be untroubled, unburdened, that
they will be released from whatever is plaguing them.
That focussed love, that purity of concern for someone is POWERFUL! So very powerful...and indeed it is essentially prayer.
The inner wish for the betterment of someone other than our own selves. Thats purity right there.
Other things you could do:
Personally I use water a lot. And salt.
Holy Water mixed with a little bit of salt actually.
I tend to use that for house-blessings and other interventions/services when called upon/asked to.
I also use sea-shells as I find these *things* aren't so fond of salt and water...so seashells are in many ways a very physical combination of both
of those substances.
Ya know - maybe even having some seashells around her place...in her bedroom, next to her bedside, that kinda thing.
Whenever I house-bless I tend to place a seashell at each corner of the persons house, and also each corner of the land it sits upon...to me thats
just a physical way of saying "Off limits" to any *things* that may not have good intentions...its essentially a way of marking the place as no
longer being a sandpit that they can have their fun in.
Other methods have been mentioned - such as the burning/smudging of substances.
Really - I'd also be looking in other directions than just here...which I'm sure you're doing also no doubt.
I don't know any place/town/city that doesn't have people who can assist you - its just a matter of seeking/asking.
Anyhoo...enough of the novel for now. You have posted this question with concern for your friend - that to me is in itself a *prayer* for them.
So bless you also for your love and compassion for your friend...indeed...sending a prayer up right now as well for you and her.