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Feb 9, 2009, Obama Speeks Primetime, Treasury Dept Unvails Bail Out Plan, What if Reinhardt Is Right

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posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by Trayen11
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Take today for instance, the worst unemployment numbers in how many years and still the market make a huge gain. Another thing to remember if this thing was actually planned, and this man was blowing the whistle on this thing, I have a hard time believing TPTB would go ahead with the plan. It would almost gaurentee people knowing this whole thing was planned.



Of course the markets would gain, the Kings have less peasants to feed. That is my take on it.




posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 12:56 AM
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I believe the stimulus is the key to failure - a broken dollar leads to a broken treasury market leads to bankruptcies leads to CDO call-ins leads to... well I think we'll all be out of money by that point.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 12:59 AM
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No, I don't think reinhardt can imagine the implication of it at all.
If things going berserk really fast, there'll be no more ha ha hee hee for all of you, again.. reinhardt included.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by Jazzyguy
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No, I don't think reinhardt can imagine the implication of it at all.
If things going berserk really fast, there'll be no more ha ha hee hee for all of you, again.. reinhardt included.


I think one thing is for certain - and I believe it's been mentioned on this thread - that any 'collapse' in the market on february 9th will probably be a 500+ fall on the Monday turning into complete meltdown by Friday. If you have faith that will happen and you happen to have a few hundred thousand to spare, then the market will bear a lot of fruit for you with the right put options

[edit on 7/2/09 by liketoknow]



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:12 AM
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It's not about the money!
If it's only about the wall street dropping 500 points and that's it, then you have not much to worry about.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by jeff.behnke
Personally I think he was burned somehow by Enron (or deeply involved with it) as he has bragged that he knows more about it than Dick Cheney. Not sure if that is raging obsession...or insider knowledge. But his rebranding of history through the eyes of Enron, it seems a lot like obsession.


He did mention once that he was involved in the first ever 3D mapping/exploration of an oil site (I forgot where. Somewhere in the coast of Louisiana/lower east coast.)



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:54 AM
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He did mention once that he was involved in the first ever 3D mapping/exploration of an oil site (I forgot where. Somewhere in the coast of Louisiana/lower east coast.)


Yes, and this led to his belief in UFOs as he supposedly 'saw things.' You would think he could be more specific without hurting anyone? I don't get that bit. But point taken: Enron = energy market, and he was involved in the exploration of an oil site. Maybe it did have something to do with his first-hand involvement with Enron.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 02:00 AM
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Perhaps when they announce the agreement on the bail out they are also going to tell everyone its not going into effect until 2010 and into 2011.... better double check those "much" needed checks! More than half of that pork isn't coming into the economy anytime soon, many of the dates for release are in 2010 and 2011.
It doesn't take a Legatius member to see that one.

This has all been planned for years ahead of time and they are going to do it when they are good and ready too. But all kidding aside it is supposed to be the second or third week of February 2009. Everyone has been put on full alert for some kind of "problem" that is most likely going to rile the people and possibly cause massive civil unrest all over the US. NO I don't know what it is. I was just told to STAY home, with enough food and water to last a month.To keep it "on/in hand"... "just in case" it doesn't go well or as planned.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by reluctantpawn
If he is getting inside information,[I am not saying he isn't] what are the chances that his source will either dry up or be eliminated? It would be a large coincidence indeed if he were right a second time. It would definitely give a great bit more credibility.

respectfully

reluctantpawn


He has no 'source'. He gets his dates from history.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 03:00 AM
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Thanks,

Cool guy, afterall.

second video is good.

Maybe that Reinhardt might have something here considering this one.

www.infowars.com...

On sept 15th, the system would have completly collapsed if no actions been taken.

let's see for monday, i love fireworks.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 03:21 AM
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If you have an adequate amount of brain cells left you would know that asteroid predictions have nothing to do with market crashes. Reinhardt just doesn't pull out dates from a rabbit hat. He just connects the dots that most of us can't see so please stop putting your foot where your mouth is.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by Jazzyguy
If it's only about the wall street dropping 500 points and that's it, then you have not much to worry about.


Thing is, it's not just that's it. The Dow crashed only 500 points last September 15, right? Then the carnage followed two weeks later.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 03:51 AM
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Do you believe that the paradigm shift in the way we operate as a society - something that would be required to pull off such an undertaking - will be brought about by the imminent economic failure?


Yes. This is the strange part about right and wrong. If you had no context of 'wrongness' you would have no understanding of 'rightness.' So those who are doing this (The black pope, Knights of Malta, etc...) feel that they are giving people a context to understand the nature of 'right' and, as a result, can be corrupt without remorse. Right and wrong thus operate in collusion with one another...to wake people up. I think this is what justifies to the catholic church why they are 'permitted' to have a Lucifer in their ranks and rape nations through wars and death and market collapses. They are 'God' and God answers to no one...but himself.

On ATS, there was some strange poster who talked about this in a thread called "A Window of Opportunity." I cannot validate this thread as being legitimate, but I can say he did understand a thing or two about the abstraction of the archetypes of 'right' and 'wrong.'



Or... do you believe we as a society will continue to strive for things beyond our means and the whole mess just gets repackaged and started a fresh?


I honestly don't know where our 'means' end, but I do know that we have made drastic strides in completely f'ing up this planet in this round. But the planet (Lucifer? Jesus?) is ultimately in charge, and if our methods kill us, we deserve it. But we will be back to try once again to get it right
I am of the assumption that this process is endless.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 03:55 AM
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Thanks for replying to my questions..........You are very informed with your information. Your are right about the good and evil here on earth. We could start a whole new thread about evil, the elites and their money trail.

I stated in this thread I always look for the underlying truth. Sometimes accepting the truth is diffilcult when it sits before our eyes. We are all so conditioned to accept and believe what seems to be right and of "good" but in reality its nothing more than a false pretence being manipulated and controled.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 04:19 AM
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jeff.behnke


The collapse of KMP (Kinder Morgan Partners) which he says is another Enron. He told everyone to short it if they were gamblers...but it hasn't fallen. Yet.


Do you see KMP as a potential victim of the potential collapse? That would be a company I don't think anyone would see. I know a lot of funds are tied to KMP.



[edit on 7-2-2009 by Cloudsinthesky]



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by DangerDeath
Castaneda would call this "moving the assembling point".


It is "assembly point".

Great to see Carlos Castaneda quoted in here...


There is nothing in this reality

No Fear
No Love
No Hate
No Pain
No Suffering

In this reality exists only indulgence...


Don Juan (freely) referring to the way we create our reality.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 05:11 AM
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I have published an analysis about an event that will happens on next week using TimeWavezero and insider sources.




The year will begins with the “2009 surprise”. A new currency is promulgated by the end of 2008 / early 2009 in North America, along with a new Union of nations (North American Union).


Hidden hand


The United State big finance is already defaulted this past year (2008). in 2009 is the “real economy” that is defaulting.
The “2009 surprise” will try to hide it, distracting your attention from the real issue and giving the People In the Government even more power.
The intention of the (hidden) American administration is to declare the martial law to manage the social consequences.
To justify this step they require (again) a severe aggression to America from the outside (the terrorists? Iran? The Aliens?).

The elite will try primarily to keep the cities under control. In fact it is easier to control a couple of cities that thousand of small communities. This will start a social shift: “progressive” people will move more and more on the countryside where they will practice a self sufficiency strategy; “conservative” will remain in the city.

Keep in mind that the definition of what is a progressive could change dramatically.

This event what expected as “October surprise” but took no place for a simple reason:

Obama can count on a bigger popular support for unpopular decisions that lame duck Bush. And Bush is only a puppet.

see
2009: a scenario



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 05:24 AM
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I wasn't referring about the money (or the economy) and still not. If it's just like the 15th September and that's it, then it stays there, contained in the economic sector. The money is just the tool btw.

Anyway, they might vote on Tuesday, so.. it'll be like the 10th or 11th.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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It will be interestinng to watch the CDO's on Monday. This all makes since on how the collapse could take place.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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What can possibly happen?

The question is, can consumers economy still exist?
If not, there will be something like state socialism/fascism. Rations. Too many people / maybe "final solution"...

Who needs middle class? Can you answer this question? If the authorities don't need it anymore, then goodbye middle class. It will be robbed right into the proles.

If they have robots to do the job, who needs workers in such numbers?

Money is not important. It is a fiction, a projection. Don't be naive, when you get paid at your work, you don't really get what you earned or deserved. You just get what you are ALLOWED to get. This can vary. They'll just pull excuses, tons of them. Easy.

Restructuring society is cheap. We know who will pay.

As Reinhardt says, they take the eggs from hens, hens ruffle and go back to laying eggs. It's true, very much true.

"End of history" is just this: all system have been tried already. All they need is to pick one and reprise it.

Fascism, socialism, autocracy, theocracy, whatever suits them at the moment. There will always be slaves to protect them with weapons, mercilessly - to put food on their tables. That is the main brainwashing idea of all. This idea turns people against each other. That's why the brutes will feed you teargas.

It cannot be prevented. All one can do is not participate. That is all.






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