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Feb 9, 2009, Obama Speeks Primetime, Treasury Dept Unvails Bail Out Plan, What if Reinhardt Is Right

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posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by ::.mika.::
this world is just a big lie,
from top to bottom, east to west

mika, I don't the east such as china and india has anything to do with the big lie. I think they're straightly western elites.




posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 04:06 AM
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I've posted my fears previously just looking at the big picture and there's reason for concern.

The only way to erase trillions in global debt and millions of people unemployed is to start a war.

History has already shown us that The New Deal was a failure and what really put America
back to work and thinned the soup kitchen lines was WWII.

As much as I respect him for trying, each day it becomes more and more clear that our
president is being forced to yield to the real powers that be.

These events are shaking the very foundations of current global power structures.

The richest of the rich using US to fight amongst each other in a last ditch power grab.

Most of the world looks at history in the thousands of years, while we still focus on a few hundred years and a somewhat delusional sense of self worth.

We're not even being told the real numbers of our future debt and liabilities because
they would have to admit we are broke. Hundreds of trillions in debt and future liabilities.

In the long run, I doubt anyone will ever have to pay back this debt.

They're going to find a way to erase it.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by TheDarkNight
reply to post by ::.mika.::
 


I am trying to think of who did institutionalize this is the first place?



quick google
the official story of christmas :


In the year 274AD, solstice fell on 25th December, and Roman Emperor Aurelian proclaimed the date as "Natalis Solis Invicti," the festival of the birth of the invincible sun. In 320 AD, Pope Julius I specified the 25th of December as the official date of the birth of Jesus Christ. In 325AD, Constantine the Great, the first Christian Roman emperor, introduced Christmas as an immovable feast on 25 December. In 354AD, Bishop Liberius of Rome officially ordered his members to celebrate the birth of Jesus on 25 December. In some parts of the Roman Empire (mostly the Eastern parts), solstice was celebrated on 6 January, the last festival day for those who started solstice on 25 December. (Saturnalia was held over 12 days.) The Orthodox Churches of Eastern Europe celebrate Christmas on 6 January.


www.funandgames.org...

why replacing sun festivities with jc fest ?
not enough room for both ?

already not much to do with religion (the essence i mean, ie teaching of one spiritual path) anyway



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 04:20 AM
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JG, I concur. I have a feeling this is very important.


My apologies for taking this thread off track...but this is at the heart of the matter. I have NO doubt.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 04:29 AM
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Thank you for sharing again Mike, but can you elaborate on this last statement or open up a new thread and then post a link here? I'm having a little trouble understanding your non native English. No offense mate.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by Jazzyguy

Originally posted by ::.mika.::
this world is just a big lie,
from top to bottom, east to west

mika, I don't the east such as china and india has anything to do with the big lie. I think they're straightly western elites.


i don't know about that,
banksters have come (back) in india, it is not clear to which extend, nor who let them in (nor why Rajiv was assassinated, as it was the same period of time : the openning of indian market to corporations in 1991)
but they're running the show here (media, banks, insurances, monsanto, pharma corps)



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 05:08 AM
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Originally posted by TheDarkNight
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but can you elaborate on this last statement ?


which one ?



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by Gando702
Well Reinhardt has done it again.

The guy said that February 9th, news would arrive that day that would push the market downward. The news would arrive. That day. The market would then go downward. It did.

I love the bandwagon swingers on this board. He was right, and now those of you who were saying he's hit a "brick wall" or he's a crock or whatever are now happily buckling in for the rest of the week, and refreshing bloomberg.com futures.

Pure effing comedy.

Roll like I roll, for the entertainment value. He did it again!

[edit on 10-2-2009 by Gando702]


I said he hit a brick wall because his updates have become less and less informative and he charges $720 a year for information that is supposedly to help the "peasants". How the frick is a $720 a year subscription helping? So yes, IMO he has hit a brick wall in furthering his campaign for truth by looking more and more like he is, well, greedy.

Offer a more affordable membership (maybe with no in depth stock purchasing/selling info) for guys like me that do not day-trade.

I didn't doubt something would happen this week, simply because I did my homework and have been following his blogs for months now - and yes, things do take a turn for the worse after a summit. I am just a bit miffed at him clamping down on information that is to help the "masses". Sorry R but blogs aren't worth $720 a year in this economic climate - especially when I am not 100% on who you are.


Maybe if I traded, otherwise, no.

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posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 06:05 AM
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The "Tribe" is thieves. This is not a biological tribe, though some of them are "skilled" eugenicists, this is simply a moral (immoral) category of people.

The "opportunities" are projections, a mixture of ideas and emotions, which use our life force as fuel to fulfill themselves. Most people believe that is their "real life", but it is not.

Here is a threshold most people will never consider crossing. They'll think its insane. But in critical situations, when economy is destroyed, or when there is war, many people will either panic and become desperate and depressive (guess why depression is called depression?), and many others will actually become detached, turn to spiritual values. The latter will also consider death and dying in a different light than normal.

The opportunities to participate in society, like modern society, almost totally deny the other possibility. Life as it is, is totally consuming people and they actually become "victims of the obvious". They identify themselves with the view they perceive and cannot imagine, nor want to imagine, anything else as "reality".

This view, or projection is the idea or emotion. It is also the "will" itself, because there is no will without projection. So what people want is life as they project it. There's no point in explaining this in detail: you get all those opportunities through advertisement and various ideologies or religious doctrines, etc.


The Theory of Chaos explains how chaos is brought to order. One must create attractors (like when you put magnet below a leaf of paper with metal scraps on it, the bits will form into a certain pattern around the attractor). In society there are many attractors, and main attractors are: politics, economy, culture, sports, entertainment, religion, nationalism, various traditions, etc.

One of the most important attractors, because authority directly relies on it and depends on it, is the economy. Bread is more important than games.

Authority, by definition, is any person who will kill you if you refuse to obey.

The deal between masses of people (slaves) and the authority is: they will obey as long as the authorities provide food, and the rest (games).

If this fails, the whole projection falls apart and people, who are usually not prepared for life without projection, feel terrible anxiety (due to the energy released from projections). The energy is now existing in a raw form inside our bodies and if we don't know what to do with it, we get stressed and sick, or mad, anything may come out of that condition.

Those who are capable, trained, to not depend on projections don't find themselves in so much trouble, but I bet most people will be greatly disturbed.

When the economy crashes, the Deal with the Devil is off. Other opportunities are being sought (change of government or revolution).

Historically, the "problem" is that people who can live without projections don't belong to any form of society: they don't need to "organize". But others depend on social forms. So history is about those who constitute societies, and not about the "monks", the "soloists". They are always pushed to the margins of society.

This is why the idea of anarchism can never be realized in history. Organization denies definition of anarchism.

Anarchism is like chaos, if you introduce attractors, there is no more anarchy.

What is now going on with the worlds economy, and with particular economies in individual states, brings lots of freed energy )anxiety, stress) and little means to "organize" it into a form where it will be distributed without creating short circuits.

The authorities often use this energy to create new forms, like those contained in ideas of socialism, nationalism, fascism, Nazism, etc. This kind of energy has much higher price and demand that other sources of energy, like oil or gas for instance, because it can be directly used for "upgrading" social and political system, practically without excuse.

The war on terrorism is a power plant which produces exactly this kind of energy. Since the start of war on terrorism, you can all see that clearly, the systems have been upgraded to higher security levels (Patriot act, now too in Russia, etc), practically without relevant opposition.

Building society in this manner is the opportunity I am talking about. It promises more security and stability, but it turns out to be just a big lie, which is now falling apart, so the system must be reformed. What kind of reform awaits us all I don't know for sure, but it can be anything from a massive war, to institutional revolution (creating state socialism of some kind).

Money has to be considered as an energy reserve, but this kind of anxiety energy is not easily translated into money. So this is why I think the times are critical because money may be less worth than, say, some ideological qualities, like: being patriotic, being English or Jewish, being like this or that.

The biggest problem and way to solution, is dependence of people to the system and their inability to understand the mechanisms of human nature (liability to obsessions and delusions by means of ideas and emotions).

This is why knowledge is so important, because with knowledge you are not easily affected by crash of the reality. Those who stick to their delusions, treat knowledge in the same manner they treat death: knowledge is death, to their lies. Such people are those who most believe in endless life because life for them means "safely hiding the truth" about them and what they do.

This is clearly a trait of human nature which I call disease (schizophrenia), and it needs to be cured. But the odds are very, very bad.

Without knowledge, which is considered by most people as something very bad, it is not possible.


Sorry for the length of this post, but this is a huge subject and cannot be easily presented without being "cryptic".



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by DangerDeath
The "Tribe" is thieves.
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Sorry for the length of this post, but this is a huge subject


especially and even more since we can state that

"reinhardt was right"...

(ps:enjoyed your prose&perspectives DD)



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by RedStarRedux
i feel sorry for those who bought into reinhardt


I feel sorry for people who don't do much reading.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:37 AM
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Yes. Go to the first two links on this post: www.abovetopsecret.com...

The second link is his own personal website where he posts his predictions.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:42 AM
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Don't forget to pay your electric bills? www.bloomberg.com...

BTW, reinhardt has repeatedly stated that the powers that be care more about India than they do about the US.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:55 AM
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This is why knowledge is so important, because with knowledge you are not easily affected by crash of the reality. Those who stick to their delusions, treat knowledge in the same manner they treat death: knowledge is death, to their lies. Such people are those who most believe in endless life because life for them means "safely hiding the truth" about them and what they do.


Great post........This was the whole point to the Thread!! Bravo


Godspeed to you and yours



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:58 AM
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there may be only one solution here..


I can't wait for this post..........



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:59 AM
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The futures are up, the market will open higher today and by the end of the week erase the losses of yesterday. Reinhardt was wrong. Nothing happened on monday like he said it would. This guy is nothing but a Charlatan, a fraud. And like most people who blindly follow a charismatic cult leader, many on here will defend his predictions and make excuses for him just so their fragile grip on reality isn't turned upside down. Reinhardt screwed himself by getting too specific with dates. He did NOT say the week of 2-9-09, He said specifically 2-9-09. Now everyone wants to claim he meant this week not just monday, OK whatever, now what are you guys going to say come friday when the market closes in the black for the week? I'm sure you will come up with some more excuses.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by The Oak
The futures are up, the market will open higher today and by the end of the week erase the losses of yesterday. Reinhardt was wrong. Nothing happened on monday like he said it would. This guy is nothing but a Charlatan, a fraud. And like most people who blindly follow a charismatic cult leader, many on here will defend his predictions and make excuses for him just so their fragile grip on reality isn't turned upside down. Reinhardt screwed himself by getting too specific with dates. He did NOT say the week of 2-9-09, He said specifically 2-9-09. Now everyone wants to claim he meant this week not just monday, OK whatever, now what are you guys going to say come friday when the market closes in the black for the week? I'm sure you will come up with some more excuses.


Personally, I'm very open-minded about Reinhardt. If this week pans out as you say then I'm 100% fine with dismissing him as a fraud/lucky. However, I'm going to wait until the end of the week. As should you. It cuts both ways - I'm sure if the market is significantly down at the end of the week you'll be in here making excuses also. Practice what you preach, and all that



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:22 AM
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Double post badness.

Sorry.

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posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:29 AM
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You don't get it Oak.

Monday happened on Tuesday


Because on Monday happened Nothing, Monday also didn't Happen.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 09:33 AM
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The Dow is in the Red

[edit on 11-2-2009 by Cloudsinthesky]



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