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Octuplet Mom Defends Her ‘Unconventional’ Choices

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posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 09:35 AM
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Then, Nadya will be up the creek without a paddle. And, her children will be the ones to suffer the most.

And, who will be left caring for the kids and paying for them? Society.




posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 09:39 AM
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The greatest tragedy in this story is we now have 14 little kids who are being raised by a woman who is obviously delusional, probably bipolar or borderline, only an in depth interview and a battery of tests could indicate which. There is potential that the Dx mignht be something more severe.


But following up on my original conspiracy theory - this woman may even have embryo-napped other peoples embryos during the time she worked at the fertility clinic where she had the work done. I really believe that with her mental condition that the hospital should do dna tests on all 14 children. I think we may all be surprised what they find.

[edit on 6-2-2009 by Mynaeris]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 09:44 AM
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In the UK, counseling is offered before any IVF procedure. The person/couple doesn't have to take it, but it has to be offered.

Is anything like that mandated at US fertility clinics?



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 09:50 AM
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She claims she tried for 7 years and then resorted to IVF. Look at Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt (I really hate bringing them up sorry) but they supposidly had their twins through IVF but didn't really need it? They just didn't feel like "trying" apparently and wanted IVF to ensure a quick conception. They didn't need IVF-but they could pay-and they got twins out of the deal? Methinks she probably wanted the twins....two birds with one stone....
That woman collects babies but at least she has the resources.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 09:52 AM
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We have to look at this as a woman who has problems telling the truth or dealing with reality. In her first ""workers compensation claim" she said that her lower back had been injured. We all know that lower back pain is the scam term for I was hurt and deserve compensation. Her back hurt so badly she carried 14 children to term. She received $170 000.oo for this

Then "workers compensation" claim number two she is in a car accident (she is driving) but it's the companies fault because if she hadn't been injured before she wouldn't have needed to be on the way to a doctor on the day of the accident, therefore the accident and additional phantom (back/neck etc) pains were their fault. We don't know what she got out of this frivolous suit.

So here we have a woman who is so incapacitated that she can carry ocuplets and 6 other pregnancies. This woman is delusional and a scammer.

After these two law suits she quit working altogether and took up producing babies by IVF!

[edit on 6-2-2009 by Mynaeris]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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That is becoming more obvious by the day. But, is there no pre-conception counseling in these fertility clinics? Do they just implant anyone who wants it with no screening whatsoever?

If not, there's a big problem with the process.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 09:58 AM
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Did you look at the youtube video I posted? In there she said she was told of all the risks but these frozen embryos were her babies and it seems like she considered this transferring of embryos as some form of rescue operation.

It's pretty clear at the end of the video that Ann Curry is saying one thing with words and her body language keeps saying there is something really wrong with this woman.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:03 AM
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I watched the video. I am not talking about risks involved in carrying multiples. I am talking about a psychological examination/counseling before implantation of the embryos. Adoptive parents have to undergo such examinations. I would think that young, single women with 6 kids already from IVF would warrant some counseling before having yet another 6 implanted.

I have looked, but I can't find anthing that states that fertility clinics in the US are mandated (like they are in the UK) to offer psychological counseling before the IVF procedure.

There is no question that this woman is messed up in the head on many levels. I am just wondering if anyone tried to find that out before the implantation that resulted in the octuplets or if she scammed the system (lied) to get "her babies".



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:09 AM
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You raise really valid questions. She becomes really coy about the question you raise, she says the same fertility specialist was involved in the creation of all 14 babies, but she never specifies whether he was also the one that did the embryo transfers.

I don't want to be harsh, but I believe this woman should not be raising any children. And potentially belongs in an institution where she can raise 14 baby dolls. It's pretty amazing listening to her speak in terms lifted directly from psych 101 textbooks.

She speaks of a dysfunctional childhood. Is there anybody out there who considers being an only child a dysfunctional childhood.

Also notice how she tries to push the fact that she isn't asking for help because she is proud and will do it herself, and then lists where people and institutions will be helping anyway.

[edit on 6-2-2009 by Mynaeris]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:18 AM
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I'm an only child. That, in and of itself, doesn't equate to dysfunctional. And, if she thinks it does, then that only adds to the questions of her mental make-up.

I would love to see all of these "Momma Sponsors" back away from her (some baby companies already have) and let her sink or swim on her own. She says she won't take welfare, but doesn't have a job. She says she will be able to afford them when she gets her Master's Degree, but she has to go back to school in the fall.

Don't have kids if you have to depend on the charity of others and handouts from anyone in order to afford to provide for them.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:21 AM
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Not sure what's wrong with her?


Why are you all bugging, tripping?

Dude, if that was my sister and I had 14 nephews and had to shell out all that money for presents every year, maybe I would be steamed...

But guys, this is AMERICA, don't let the POLITICAL Correct Express they steam ride around on TV brainwash you and make you judgmental people.

Let's try and be more accepting.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:36 AM
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Nobody has said it yet? THIS IS SICK.
It's aficka-ing SICK, especially with the state the world currently is in. 8 children at once, REALLY? with 6 kids that she already had? Isnt this more befitting of opossum or other litter-bearing animals? And not a human being ?



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:42 AM
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Well I hope that the people that she extorted money from will come forward and start investigating and ask for the money back.

Perhaps they will get her children as payment after all that is where the money went too.


(just a joke)

Anyway it seems that she got away with a first scam, got away with a second and now she thins that she can ride her life on the easy chair scamming everybody around, because she has now 14 children, after all America does have a lot of very companioned people that will gladly send her money to pay for the babies diapers and food, let not forget charitable organizations also.

[edit on 6-2-2009 by marg6043]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:44 AM
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But guys, this is AMERICA, don't let the POLITICAL Correct Express they steam ride around on TV brainwash you and make you judgmental people.

Let's try and be more accepting.



I believe it would be more politically correct to say: Oh, her body, her choice. She can do what she wants and it takes a village to raise a child, so lets all chip in and help out.

And I will judge all I want. After all, judging is just giving an opinion. And she has now put herself out there on a public stage for the world to judge.

[edit on 2/6/2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo
I believe it would be more politically correct to say: Oh, her body, her choice. She can do what she wants and it takes a village to raise a child, so lets all chip in and help out.

And I will judge all I want. After all, judging is just giving an opinion. And she has now put herself out there on a public stage for the world to judge.

[edit on 2/6/2009 by greeneyedleo]


It is her choice, that's a fact. You have no say whatsoever. She is just a person. You can get mad at her for having kids..........? I'm just not exactly sure why somebody would really get mad about that. Maybe I'm just different.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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It's not that she had kids. It's that she had 14 kids when she apparently can't work so she can't support those kids. She had 14 children who are going to suffer because their mother wants to do nothing but raise babies.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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Her children were not conceived by natural ways, so this is a different matter altogether.

Is nothing wrong for a women to conceive as many children as she morally and financially can afford.

In this case it is not and please do not ignore the factor of mental illness in this case it is possibility that those children will end up in the care of the state at the expenses of tax payer because the woman wanted to become a breeding queen bee.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043

Her children were not conceived by natural ways, so this is a different matter altogether.

Is nothing wrong for a women to conceive as many children as she morally and financially can afford.

In this case it is not and please do not ignore the factor of mental illness in this case it is possibility that those children will end up in the care of the state at the expenses of tax payer because the woman wanted to become a breeding queen bee.


What exactly was unnatural about having children? Some birth's are not exactly "natural"....cesarean section....ect...

She is not breaking any laws by having a bunch of kids. Your argument is that this poor girl can't afford to pay for all her kids so she must be a mean person or somehow she is a less of a person for having too many children.

Whatever, I just don't see it that way. Maybe you guys are perfect.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by ConservativeJack

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
I believe it would be more politically correct to say: Oh, her body, her choice. She can do what she wants and it takes a village to raise a child, so lets all chip in and help out.

And I will judge all I want. After all, judging is just giving an opinion. And she has now put herself out there on a public stage for the world to judge.

[edit on 2/6/2009 by greeneyedleo]


It is her choice, that's a fact. You have no say whatsoever. She is just a person. You can get mad at her for having kids..........? I'm just not exactly sure why somebody would really get mad about that. Maybe I'm just different.


Because there are children involved and clearly the woman is not right in her mind. And those children can possibly suffer. And those children will be part of our society. And who knows what kind of burden this woman will be to society. Eventually she will need to rely on YOU and ME the taxpayer to raise these children.



[edit on 2/6/2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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While she is a bit off, insisting she's insane is overboard.

I think all the people who try to have a large litter are a bit screwy.

If she was being paid to do this, I would imagine first that she was selling eggs. That the treatments were for egg selling.



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