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reply posted on 10-2-2009 @ 11:35 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Cio88



Who are you to tell anyone to "stfu"?

*On Topic*

I will be greatly disappointed if Obama continues any of the Bush administration's policies. I do think they should be held accountable for authorization of torture and domestic wiretapping.

Spying on Americans is treason, plain as day.

[edit on 2/10/2009 by Irish M1ck]


reply posted on 10-2-2009 @ 11:39 PM by stevegmu
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
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post by Cio88



Who are you to tell anyone to "stfu"?

*On Topic*

I will be greatly disappointed if Obama continues any of the Bush administration's policies. I do think they should be held accountable for authorization of torture and domestic wiretapping.

Spying on Americans is treason, plain as day.

[edit on 2/10/2009 by Irish M1ck]


He already has agreet to continue renditions.
Actually, it is not. Do a little research.


reply posted on 10-2-2009 @ 11:42 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by stevegmu



I was speaking from my point of view, thanks. It seems like a treasonous act to me, I wasn't speaking in legal terms. I do know that it is unconstitutional, and that's enough for me.

And I know about rendition, but it also clearly states NOT FOR TORTURE. Show me Obama authorizing torture and releasing memos on interrogation tactics that involve torture, and then we can discuss it.

*Edit:

In case you need further demonstration of what I was talking about:

Definition of Treason
1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.


I would say a deliberate breach of the most important right of American citizens to be a betrayal of trust, and a violation of his allegiance to our nation.

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reply posted on 10-2-2009 @ 11:49 PM by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by HiveTyrant





Is Obama here to allow Bush to get away with it all?


And risk having the next President do the same for him? I think not. Obama is pursuing many of the same policies that Bush did. Both pushed bailout bills, and both have raided the American taxpayers pockets to pay off the bankers, and wall street crooks. Obama is already rattling his sabre over Afghanistan, and threatening Pakistan, so those who thought he would be a "peace" candidate, you are sorely disappointed, I'm sure. (And I haven't even mentioned what he has planned for Iran!)
God, people, stop thinking that there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans. They are both part of the same scheme to dominate the world, and YOUR money. You think things will be better with Reid, Pelosi, and Frank running things now? God, look at what they are doing. They've already hijacked any semblance of democracy. Geesh!



reply posted on 11-2-2009 @ 01:29 PM by jam321
reply to post by Irish M1ck



Spying on Americans is treason, plain as day.


I agree with you.

Too bad Obama and Congress didn't feel that way and gave retroactive immunity.
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