Was the UK recession created on purpose?, page
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reply posted on 6-2-2009 @ 05:25 AM by zerozero00
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I agree 100%
We are being shafted because we can be!
This has been predicted for a while by many people!


You can fool all of the people some of the time!, you can fool some of the people all of the time! but you can't fool all the people all the time!!



reply posted on 6-2-2009 @ 06:28 AM by sjb5000
I think the recession has been created purely through the banking greed and control of credit and strangling the cash-flow of business, and restricting personal credit without warning. It is artificial.

If I were to be cynical for a moment and buy into possible conspiracy theories (i am not say this is how it is – I am saying it could be) - I would say that the purpose is to take money and (hence power) away from the "middle classes" and independent businesses. Deliberately removing the ability to “push back”.

Without the funding of the middle classes and independent business - it will be very difficult to stand up against any government enforced laws or systems including full martial law - because there will not be the ££ to fight back against it in normal political processes.

The "terrorism" argument is simultaneously being used to take tighter and tighter control over anyone or any organisation that question or speaks out against the government - it is a very worrying behaviour. Also think of the number of new laws that have come into play over the last 24 months - the bulk of which have never been through parliament, and never been made public knowledge. Add to all the above, the fear that people are being made to live in, and you have a recipe to engineer the public to welcoming in a “new order” that would bring a feeling of security and financial stability...

It may sound stupid to apply here, but look at how Hitler’s crowd engineered public opinion to get accepted the unacceptable in Germany, Look at star wars (as a fictional example) as how by creating an artificial war and fear, can manipulate people into welcoming in a dictatorial controlling regime in the hope of attaining peace and security ... Get my point ?


reply posted on 6-2-2009 @ 07:43 AM by marg6043
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Well if you take the example how in the US the recession started is very similar of what happen in the UK.

In the time that our economy was going down the hill, President Bush was proclaiming that our nation economy was solid, people had jobs and were working and that the nation was prosperous.

But some people knew that the government numbers were also manipulated to show prosperity, while at the same time our trade deficit was going out of control along with the national debt.

See that is the sign that you needed to look for while you were been fed that everybody was doing fine and making good money.

See my husband line of work he is doing fine and making good money, but around me in my small town big local business were closing, moving oversea or going our of business, unemployment was raising but the service sector was booming that was making the numbers look good because they do not discriminate between good payjobs and low pay jobs.

That was another sign that was hitting all over the nation.

Is a lot of factors that shows the health of a nation and if you were working in a good job making good money you will tend to ignore those factors because they were not affecting you until is too late.


reply posted on 11-2-2009 @ 02:19 PM by neformore
You know what, I think it was.

In fact, I think the global recession is deliberate.

When it boils down to it, the global markets rely on three things - ignorance, numbers and confidence.

All of those three factors aren't tangible at all.

Ignorance is a given - I approximate that 90% + of people have no idea how financial institutions work, nor do most care as long as they can access their pay and buy the items they want.

Numbers exist in the virtual realm, but have no basis in actual reality with regards to the sums of money that have been banded about as being at stake. Hundreds of billions of dollars only exist in the imaginations of bankers and as zeros on computer screens. Money is actually only worth what the populace believes it to be, which is why the shroud of ignorance works so well for bankers.

Sure, bankers and accountants will tell you thats not the case, and that everything has its worth. Ask one to show you $100billion in actual real terms and see what they come up with. Pieces of paper? Yeah, right

But the real killer is "confidence". Of the three confidence is what causes problems. Confidence is - in money market terms, a WMD.

And the confidence bomb has - in my opinion - been detonated.

Think about it. Before the middle of last year, no one particularly cared about sub-prime mortgages (ignorance!) and the credit crunch. The banks were happy trading ones and zeros with each other in the virtual world and then, all of a sudden, somone lost confidence in the ability of a bank to service its debts.

The confidence bomb is a very small device, but its very powerful. All it needs is one established figure, or company, to raise the idea of a loss of confidence and a cascade reaction starts - its almost like playing that block game - Jenga - pull the right part out and the whole lot comes down.

So if someone like a Soros, or a Rothchild, or even a lesser person like a Greenspan suddenly loses "confidence"..

Not only do I think its been orchestrated, I think that the increase in oil prices that happened immediately before all this broke was a test to see how far people would be stretched globally, and also a little test of the confidence device - there was no shortage of oil, there was no conflict preventing its production - what there actually was were a few select people speculating on stocks, affecting confidence and forcing the prices up. When oil prices reached such high levels that national protests were on the cards, the market suddenly stabilised and has since dropped, and instead the banking system has gone into free fall - why?

Well to me, its a forced devaluation. A set up designed to move away from an oil based economy. By bringing sections of the market down, it becomes cheaper to re-tool, creates a large labour pool, and means that the Big-Money men can do a neat trick usually reserved for Pheonix's by building themselves back up out of the ashes of the old system.

The set up/incentive was there with the oil prices, the labour pool is growing with lay-offs on a daily basis, businesses are ripe for acquisitions if profitable or write off's if they aren't, and - I expect - sooner or later the words "hydrogen based economy" is going to be dripping off everyones tongues.

Of course, I may be wrong - but I do like a good conspiracy.
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