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posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 07:28 PM
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Do the people here at ats actually want to reveal such things as alien evidence, so far ive been a member for a couple of weeks and found alot to be interesting on this site but also ive noticed a hell of alot of skeptics and debunkers, yes many of the debunkers are correct in there evidence, but also alot of debunkers are stating things which they just dont know!

i put this question to you ( and i wonder how long this thread will remain tbh )

could this site be just another distraction!

could this be a case of " lets give the people who want to know a place where they cant rant. therefore decreasing the threat that they might spread news, lets keep the news contained,""

just a theory btw so i dont want anyone comin onto this thread and callin me for anything!

ive noticed that almost 80 percent of any evidence regarding aliens or ufo's has came from the MEDIA or from youtube ( which itself is owned by the corporations (( who do not want you to know the truth about anything because they stand to lose money )) )

let me know your views
peace




posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 07:30 PM
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oh and anyone who wishes to say anythin but not public then feel free to U2U me, peace



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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If and when someone has something substantial to post here such as a video or pictures would still be difficult to claim as credible without proper analysis.

It's nice to know there may be those here capable of recognizing the real from the fakes. After being here for awhile I see how it's not easy to accept someone's word that what they claim actually happened.

Now I even have my doubts that what I went through happened the way I had thought. False or implanted memories, mind control etc. There's other posibilites. I'm glad this site isn't like 'some' others.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by Free4Ever2
Do the people here at ats actually want to reveal such things as alien evidence


That would be lovely. Some people want to reveal what they think is the truth, while others want to know the truth, in my opinion.


so far ive been a member for a couple of weeks and found alot to be interesting on this site but also ive noticed a hell of alot of skeptics and debunkers, yes many of the debunkers are correct in there evidence, but also alot of debunkers are stating things which they just dont know!


So, enlighten everyone, including debunkers and skeptics. What do you know that the rest of us don't? I expect you have evidence, or proof to put the skeptics and debunkers in thier place?


i put this question to you ( and i wonder how long this thread will remain tbh )

could this site be just another distraction!


A distraction for seeking the truth? I find that unlikely, rather the reverse.


could this be a case of " lets give the people who want to know a place where they cant rant. therefore decreasing the threat that they might spread news, lets keep the news contained,""


It's a public site.


just a theory btw so i dont want anyone comin onto this thread and callin me for anything!


I'm not sure what you mean here. None of us have your phone number.


ive noticed that almost 80 percent of any evidence regarding aliens or ufo's has came from the MEDIA or from youtube ( which itself is owned by the corporations (( who do not want you to know the truth about anything because they stand to lose money )) )


So you ever do google searches?


let me know your views
peace


I gave you mine, and I am interested in knowing more of yours. Correct me if I am wrong, but do you have a personl experience to tell?

edit to fix quotes as I have a problem with them...........sorry

[edit on 5-2-2009 by Enthralled Fan]



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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Of course this site is a distraction! Got to keep the conspiracy theory nuts in check and give us a little play room while giving us the false sense of believing we're onto something. It is people like us who invented aliens and ufos, we're the ones who came up with the NWO, we are the reason there are conspiracy theories. We are the nuts of normal society. We were causing so much of a disturbance of the peace that they allowed us to socialize in a place like this to further everyone else's belief that we are indeed, nutters. The PTB are very clever and we fell for their tricks yet again!



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 08:00 PM
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my friend i know no more than anyone else, i never stated that i do!

it just seems that alot of people here are quick to jump on the debunking bandwagon! rahter than look at why a piece of evidenc could be real they rather look firstly as to why it is fake.

alot of poeple here seem to think they know about aliens where as there is no way they could, im not saying everyone but alot of people, i recently read a post where someone stated that aliens COULD NOT breathe our air. now how could they possibly know that, this same person also stated that aliens could not breathe other aliens air. here is the link to the thread along with the said person post

EARTHSISTER ( posters name ))
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It can't be real. It is physiologically and biologically impossible for any person from another world to breathe our air and still be standing up relaxed, animated and coherent. It is the same if we physically exposed ourselves on another world, and the same for any of the alien races on each other's worlds.

The alien representatives that visit Earth never pose for photos for humans. They easily have control of this and never allow any to be taken personally because of what they could be used to prove, which is literally anything.

You can know that anybody that claims to have an authentic photo of an alien being is lying or misguided himself.




here is the link to the thread, now im not saying this thread is truth or is false ok www.abovetopsecret.com...


all im saying is there seems to be alot of B.S on this site and if it were a serious site about exposing truths then the B.S wudnt be here. i mean damn ATS are SELLING merchandise, ( and yes maybe to cover the cost of running the site , before you say it )

to be honest im starting to question this site and thats only afer a few weeks, i mean really, do you think if anything really true and groundbreaking wer to happen it would end up here on ATS, no it wouldnt, it wud be kept quiet as per usual. thanks my friend
peace



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 08:01 PM
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saracsm is a very low form of wit my friend



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Free4Ever2

my friend i know no more than anyone else, i never stated that i do!


Not to be rude, but what is your point, then? This is a public site, and a lot of people might be reading your words, and then deciding to set up an account because they are interested. I guess, I am confused about your post.


it just seems that alot of people here are quick to jump on the debunking bandwagon! rahter than look at why a piece of evidenc could be real they rather look firstly as to why it is fake.


Why is this hard for you to understand? Say you tell everyone the sky is purple, yet we all know it is blue, how can you prove it is purple? While we all see it as blue, what proof or evidence can you provide that it is actually purple? Do you see where some of us who question, are coming from?


alot of poeple here seem to think they know about aliens where as there is no way they could, im not saying everyone but alot of people, i recently read a post where someone stated that aliens COULD NOT breathe our air. now how could they possibly know that, this same person also stated that aliens could not breathe other aliens air. here is the link to the thread along with the said person post


I missed that one. I don't even care to look at it, because being a skeptic, or a questioner (my thoughts for myself) they have no way to prove it!
Sorry, I couldn't make out in your post of the thread, and were those quotes by the person? I'm not making light of you, I was just a bit confused. It is still hard for me to post links and such, so, sorry.


all im saying is there seems to be alot of B.S on this site and if it were a serious site about exposing truths then the B.S wudnt be here. i mean damn ATS are SELLING merchandise, ( and yes maybe to cover the cost of running the site , before you say it )


Well, I can't say how you determine what B.S. is. I love this site, but I have said that people would have to pay me to wear anything with a label on it, as I am not a walking billboard. I love this site, and tell everyone I know about it, but I won't walk out in public wearing any sort of logo. Just not my style.

As to truth, I can only say by your statements, that you question your own. YOU, have to make up your own mind what the truth is, and stick to it. Nobody can tell you what your own truth is.

There is some awesome information on this site. Take from it what you want, and if you find it is not for you, then you need to search further. Mostly, there are very honest people here, telling what they believe to be the truth. It's up to you to find if it matchers your thoughts on truth.


to be honest im starting to question this site and thats only afer a few weeks, i mean really, do you think if anything really true and groundbreaking wer to happen it would end up here on ATS, no it wouldnt, it wud be kept quiet as per usual. thanks my friend
peace


Well, have you found the truth? If you had, you wouldn't be here in the first place. Look at it that way!

edit to fix quote, I hope!

[edit on 5-2-2009 by Enthralled Fan]



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 08:52 PM
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i see it too. If by the off chance, someone got there hands on some credible proof, and brought it here, which was probably the first place they thought of, they'll probably get flamed. In a major way. All of a sudden you'll have cgi experts popping up out the woodwork, saying its bunk, photoshopped, etc. Or you'll have people who seem very knowledgeable on the goings on of ETs and/or secret govmn't projects.

It doesn't stop there, you'll have those who will point out that it is a newly joined member, therefore obviously its bunk. Or whatever other petty reason they can come up with.

Yeah, sure, this is probably going to piss alot of people on ATS off. What do i care? Its as if ATS isn't just about Denying Ignorance. Its as if ATS is about Denying Everything.

This next part will sound like a change-up but its not, this is just the nature of ATS.

i thought this place would be full of open minded people who would discuss a broad range of subjects. And i was right. i'm in no way saying that ATS isn't a wonderful place, not only is it wonderful, in fact, ATS wouldn't be ATS without the Debunk Squad. Sure it would be preferable if the Debunkers would approach each thread cautiously, so to speak. Wait a few posts, examine answers, that sort of thing. Instead of straight away hitting it with a Debunk.

This kind of thing may or may not persuade the evidence holders to come here and use this forum. But truth is, the Debunkers are necessary, because thats how the world is. This is Real. This the way the world works. For every person who believes, there will be one doesn't. For every person who works to prove it true, another will attempt to prove it false.

You should attempt to prove things true. Do research. Don't just take someones word. Then you may just end up debunking whatever thread it came from.

Theres alot of Debunking without research, theres alot of wide eyed "I want to believe" types. But at the same time, there alot of highly knowledgeable people here who know Bull when they see it and call it out.

Don't worry about the state of ATS, its perfectly fine.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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YOUTUBE has become synonymous with deleting UFO footage and conspiracy videos stating it is violation of terms of use when in fact is not. Since google bought youtube this seems to be the case. You can speak your mind but do not say too much because they are watching , in fact i think this is how department of homeland security gathers a good amout of intel from peoples views on the internet. l



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by Free4Ever2
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saracsm is a very low form of wit my friend


Is it really?



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 03:58 AM
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I do not think suppression is the key here. I think this is a legitimate site, wackos, skeptics, realists, and authentic intelligent theory... come one come all. The skeptics usually dont know what they are talking about as they confuse religion with reality. Jesus didn't say anything about aliens so they cannot be. etc. okay.. that was too much there, i admit and apologise. seriosuly now. Alot of the skeptics do have very good points to offer. It is nice to have them as they are great for keeping one on their toes. I could post a photo of a dog shaving its face and say it is an alien and have every nut jobby in here wanting more information, then the skeptic comes along and says, Hey stan... its a bloody dog you moron, Then I have to go back and look again.. lo and behold.. maybe next time I will loof before I post. The authentic intelligent theory. This is where I hope I am at. the egotiscical swine that know enough and know better, cocky and head strong, present some great ideas, posts, and theories but cannot get past the 'smarter than thou' ego. believe it or not they are the back bone of sites like this. to let every one know that some directions to truth can be found in the most insane of places. The intellects as well as the skeptics are very important in that sound judgement is REALLY in here.
The realists. people like you. curious, yet not stupid enough to believe Elvis is coming back as an alien tree or something. Just wanting to know, or find something to believe in, or pass the time. You are our audience. You are the judges. you are the MOST important on this site I believe.
The Wack jobs... well, even a broken clock is right twice in the day.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 04:09 AM
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Look at it this way free4ever2
yes. there is alot of BS here. There is alot of BS on Fox news channel too, there is alot of BS in governmental, and local politics, as there is alot of BS in religion itself. The job you have as the reader is to go through the fetid stench of bad information and find that one spot, that one nugget of foeces that has some article of truth within. Aliens this, aliens that, monsters, aliens, sex, aliens, government aliens, and porn aliens.... that should atleast say to you that you might want to question the existence of extra terrestrial life. You might want to question just how much we really know of our own existence. There are fossils of human foot prints side by side, and aged maybe a day or two off from that of long extinct dinosaurs in Texas along the Bolluxi River. Not primate, not cave man, or neandratal, HUMAN HOMOSAPIEN< HOMONIDS... US. That raises questions in the scientific community religiously, and that latter word "religiously" is exactly why this information is NOT presented to the world. Just to those that know where to look, and how to understand it. If the world knew about it, religion would be seen as the most evil institution and be erradicated by civil war for being the very cause of our scientifically unadvanced state.
We the members of ATS vary greatly. thinkers to nut jobs. Skeptics to extremists. etc. There is MUCH BS in here, and there is great sources of information. the 'facts' are presented, it is up to you dear reader, Mr Free for all to, to research this information. even if there are no references. you will have the basic idea, and will be able to go from there.
cheers



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 08:46 AM
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Do the people here at ats actually want to reveal such things as alien evidence, so far ive been a member for a couple of weeks and found alot to be interesting on this site but also ive noticed a hell of alot of skeptics and debunkers, yes many of the debunkers are correct in there evidence, but also alot of debunkers are stating things which they just dont know!


I think the motto says it all....Deny Ignorance...
I've been here quite a while, and had opportunities to interface with those running the site, and I can state unequivocally that their goal is to foster intelligent debate of conspiracies within a community of like-minded people. There is no agenda of censorship or suppression beyond what's stated in the Terms and Conditions of the site (which are there to keep things at a friendly debate level)....

Skepticism is healthy. It allows us to analyze a conspiracy theory and separate the wheat from the chaff... Debunking with evidence is a great thing...debunking with speculation...not so much, but we all must realize that everyone is entitled to a voice, and this forum provides an arena for it... I myself, would consider me to be a skeptical believer. I've often been surprised by my research, as to where the facts lead...sometimes to an alien cause, sometimes to a more mundane cause....but I try to apply Occam's Razor as a rule (which for those without a philosophy background is simply, the simplest explanation tends to be the correct one...it's usually explained more flowery than that, but that's the jist).



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:16 AM
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your not allowed to believe in Aliens visiting this planet

your outnumbered by the debunkers.

this is a debunking site, hope that answers your question



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