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Jovion Corporation Gets Patent for Zero Point Energy Extraction

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posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 06:44 PM
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nextbigfuture.com...



Jovion Corp is trying to extract energy from the reservoir of “zero point energy” using Casimir cavities. One proposed device would generate up to 21.5 kilowatts of heat from sugar cube sized device. The heat would need to be captured and converted to electricity. Micro-gap thermal photovoltaics could match up well for this application to convert 50% or more of the heat to electricity. NOTE: This is a funded company that is a technology spinoff of research from the University of Colorado.

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Jovion Corporation of Boulder aims to develop and commercialize a device for extracting energy from the reservoir of “zero point energy” that has been shown to fill all of space. The Jovion device would employ numerous Casimir cavities, consisting of closely spaced metal plates within which a range of electromagnetic modes are excluded due to quantization of the electromagnetic field. The harvested energy would be in the form of electromagnetic radiation and could in principle be converted directly into electrical power through the incorporation of solar cells. The POCi funding covers the design, construction and testing of a practical and scalable energy harvesting system. The funding is contingent on the satisfactory achievement of certain scientific proof of principle milestones relating to a prototype Casimir cavity device as described in a current research grant to Dr. Garret Moddel, Professor in CU-Boulder’s Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering and an inventor of the technology.


PESWiki page

Patent:

Quantum vacuum energy extraction - Patent 7379286 Bernard Haisch and Garret Moddel.
Patent PDF




posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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There went any other scientist, except maybe a philanthropist, from wanting to or trying to develop zero point energy.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 07:00 PM
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Holy smokes! Just checking out the patent PDF - 21 pages of information and diagrams!

There's a tonne of real scientific data here folks!



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 08:50 PM
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Holy Smokes !!!!! This is the FIRST DEVICE I HAVE SEEN YET
that actually makes SENSE when I read it.....!!!!!!!!!!!

And not only that, almost EVERYTHING in the patent and drawings
I can do myself since I've got a decent CNC machine to craft
all the parts down to 1/50,000th of an inch for maximum precision!

And after reading the patent, I've already got an idea for
adding a continuous Pelletier-type heat-exchanger using
micro-channels of 3M thermo-fluid carved in-between their
matrix of reaction cells so that we could use the heat output
of circulating thermo-fluid to power a thermal expansion
or even micro-turbine based electric generation system...
and based upon some preliminary in-my-head calculations,
I expect something on the order of 25 to 40 kilowatts
(25,000 to 40,000 watts!) from a package the size
of an apartment-style household fridge!

And that's after allowing for the massive thermodynamic
heat-exchange loss on their 2100 watts per litre claimed
output...This means we could use the same space used
by an average house-hold furnace to power an entire home!

I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS INVENTION MAY ACTUALLY
BE THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD ....BUT.... I'll have to
confirm it all first which means it's BUILDING TIME !!!!!!

For the first time in a LONG while I am actually excited
by a "Free Energy" device that looks like it might actually
work as stated....It's got me excited enough to begin
contemplating an improvement in it's design by adding
an integrated thermal-exchange unit .... I'll see what
I can do in the next 6 to 8 weeks for an initial CAD/CAM
diagram and then build it to either confirm or deny the
veracity of their invention.

Yikes !!!!! It just may actually work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is GOOD !!!!!!!!!!



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 09:02 PM
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LOL I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic here


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posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 09:17 PM
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I have a question for any physicist who can answer it in relation to this device:

Is quantum vacuum energy have the same qualities as dark energy? Is it the same thing?

I ask because dark energy is said to be spread out over billions of light years, so it would be difficult to get concentrate amounts. If vacuum energy is dispersed in this way, I imagine that it would be a very difficult source of energy to extract. Maybe even impractical.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Call the Myth Busters let them build it and put it on tv and we can all watch and see if it works.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 09:29 PM
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Nah not them, I'm pretty sure they'd do a total hatchet-job on it, like they did with the Bedini motor....


Now, the ATS SCIENCE AND TECH TEAM on the other hand - YES!!!!






posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 12:00 AM
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ACTUALLY I'm not being sarcastic...this is one of the first patents
I've seen that tells me how "Free Energy" could be obtained
from well understood quantum phenomena.

And after reading the patent and examining the documents
the only thing that's missing (as the patent holders explained
in their documents!) is a heat exchange system to harness
the thermal energy.

From what I can see they use tiny tunnels and very thin plates
just nanometers apart to form the Casimir effect and
those channels take advantage of a semi-understood effect
what some Quantum Compression which, using an analogy,
squeezes the rubber balls of sub-atomic data such that the
volume taken up by the electrons orbiting their nucleus
as they pass betwen the extremely narrow gap between
the casimir plates is "compressed" into a smaller space.

However the strong nuclear binding forces resist such
compression of electron orbits and the resultant
rebound/expansion into their original larger orbits can
produce either photons or other radiative energies
which can then be absorbed by a secondary medium
such as a thermo-fluid or a tiny solar power cell or
directly converted into other types of electron movement
since the rebound effects cause electrons to jump around
and/or move as a flowing current within the Casimir tunnels.

I think coherent and directed quantum tunneling effects
COULD ALSO BE a factor in why there is a production
of net energy. I've just been doing a bit more reading,
but my physics IS NOT UP TO SNUFF so I have to speculate
for now as to the POSSIBILITY of the HOW this possibly works.

But for now and since I DO ADMIT I DO NOT HAVE THE
BACKGROUND to adequately explain the quantum effects
and reasons why it might work, I still understand enough
to say that there is a good chance it WILL WORK on a
practical scale IF there is a secondary medium to absorb
the photon emissions or transmit other radiative emissions
into a heat exchange mechanism. (i.e. drive a micro-turbine)

This is why I believe that during the current manufacturing
process, micro-channels could be carved into highly heat
absorbant material (i.e. aluminim, copper or even silica plate)
and those micro-channels could circulate a thermo-dynamic
fluid such as those made by 3M which could then power
a heat exchange mechanism to create steam to drive an
electricity producing turbine. There are wide-scale energy
losses using such a mechanism, but at the energy-densities
the patent holders claim (2100 watts/litre) the loss wouldn't
matter so much because the overall output would STILL be
on the order of 25 to 40 kilowatts in the space of a
100 litre (about 25 gallon) tank which makes it IDEAL
for home use.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:00 AM
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The general problem with these 'extract energy from the quantum vacuum' ideas isn't energy. It's the entropy.

It doesn't matter if there is lots of "energy" in some model here---what matters is changes in energy levels which can create work.

It's the thermodynamics/statistical mechanics which is the key, and there can be many, many subtle problems which may be hard to compute or realize.



When atoms enter into suitable micro Casimir cavities a decrease in the orbital energies of electrons in atoms will thus occur. Such energy will be captured in the claimed devices. Upon emergence form such micro Casimir cavities the atoms will be re-energized by the ambient electromagnetic quantum vacuum. In this way energy is extracted locally and replenished globally from and by the electromagnetic quantum vacuum.


So then another question is---does it take work to push these atoms in and out of the cavity? I bet it will. Maybe the effect is so complicated and hard to figure out that it's not at all apparent theoretically. (This happens frequently).

The catch is going to be in the "enter into" and the "emergence from" parts of the business.

For instance, if the atoms inside the cavity are somehow in a lower energy state because of Casimir effect on the walls---then doens't it seem natural according to normal physics that they would resist wanting to 'emerge outward'? I.e. you'd have to pull against a force, and thereby exert work for the atoms to gain extra energy.

From the patent:


Upon exiting the cavity the electron would absorb energy from the zero-point field and be re-excited to its normal state


and


Upon exiting the Casimir cavity the electron will return to its customary state by absorbing energy from the ambient zero-point fluctuations.


The patent doesn't elaborate on this 'upon exiting' business. It just seems to me that the Casimir cavity creates a slightly lower potential energy well. That I have no problem with.

So what would happen? Well, because it's lower potential energy then the atoms would preferentially like to stick inside---OK. If you want to take one out, you have to pay the cost in work---the stochastic ambient zero-point fluctuations won't help you. Of course there is a usual thermodynamic equilibrium so atoms will be coming in and out spontaneously but that's no different than any other potential well in thermodynamics. You can't extract work out of it---because the ambient zero-point fluctuations have to be the maximum entropy 'heat bath' state.

It's a little like the classical stat mech problems of a magnetic dipole near by some channel with a magnetic field. While they're in the magnetic field sure the overall potential energy is lower, and falling into that field they will release energy (E&M radiation). And these can be in equilibrium with the global E&M ambient heat bath, and there will be fluctuations in and out. But if you want to pull a dipole out into the outside environment you have to pay with energy.




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[edit on 6-2-2009 by mbkennel]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:17 AM
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Free energy can only be found in gases and in atomic processes.

Remember that energy equals mass times the speed of light twice
so a small amount of air goes a long way.

These processes are non Relativist and may involve compressed
or liquid air or Helium or isotopes or any stored ether effect like
permanent magnets (magnetic force field 'stored' in air or ether)
and stored or created charges like electrons.

ED: Why go into heat exchange, instead go straight to electrical
by mechanical or radiant process.

ED: Here is a free energy process entirely different:
Put some lose magnets in a coil and make electricity from the earth
vibrations cause its always shaking.
Free Energy is only step away.
A step away from the Illuminati.


[edit on 2/6/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 2/6/2009 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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I've subscribed to the thread, please post back with your findings.

I'm looking for something to build, and would be happy to work on this too if you get the ball rolling.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 02:47 PM
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Next Big Future


10cm X 10 cm parallel plates separted by 10 micron non-conducting strips aligned to form 5000 Casimir strips. Gas flow rate of 10 cm/second would generate 21-210 watts. A stacked set of 10 or more layers could yield 210 to 2100 watts (thermal) for a 10X10X10 cm block.


That sure sounds like passing gas (10 cm/sec) or making hot air.
Why don't they go straight to electricity.
Too Einstein minded and not Tesla minded.

This is a bit like a static machine that builds up charges.
100 ions per cu cm means a charge imbalance is a certainty.
Nothing new here and definitely not quantum science,
and more like ionization due to Cosmic particles discovered by Tesla.

A pressure channel of gas or liquid perhaps through with a magnetic
reluctance gap might generate electricity straight on.
This method is suspected in generating high energy pulses.

If this circulating gas needs cooling the gas company might
burn it off. Sounds ridiculous. Like step back and get the big
picture of the system being created and not just a device that
might end up in the zero point scrap heap.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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If you read through this thread, well, not the thread itself necessarily, but the theory available through the links, I think you'll see how this device might actually work. It refers to Lisi's new theory of everything.

Way to go, Tesla!! He figured this stuff out a long time ago.

www.kmph.com...

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posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by apacheman
If you read through this thread, well, not the thread itself necessarily, but the theory available through the links, I think you'll see how this device might actually work. It refers to Lisi's new theory of everything.

Way to go, Tesla!! He figured this stuff out a long time ago.

www.kmph.com...

[edit on 6-2-2009 by apacheman]


I didn't see any Jovion story or zero point in that link but look at that
name Jov-ion, it has ion in the name and the Jov can be a
reference to the planet Jupiter.

I can't remember all the so called occult passages about Jupiter
but Zeus and his lightning bolts might be one.
And Velikovsky said Jupiter was electrically active.

How about this, Jupiter gave electricity to the Earth.
No, I think the constant bombardment of Cosmic particles,
not rays as the Illuminati would like us to think, is the source
of static electricity.

OK now, wave bye bye to nothing waves and get with particles
to generate meaningful energy as well as ether fields of magnetism
and voltage gradients.

ED: See A D Moore on static electricity such as the source
for the 100 to 500 ions per cu cm from Cosmic particles,
but Tesla is not mentioned by AD Moore but Tesla did discover
the universal Cosmic particle.


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[edit on 2/6/2009 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 07:41 PM
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Just a correction regarding an earlier post of mine....
It isn't nanometres apart that the Casimir plates are installed
but in the 10 micron range....I suspect that the energy extraction
effect might be improved if the plates were close enough together
so that Van Der Waals forces came into play to cause an increase
in the repulsion and attraction of the individual gas molecules
on a cyclical basis. (i.e. a pulsing effect much like squeezing
a foam ball and suddenly releasing it so that it suddenly
restores itself to it's original size but doing it million of
times a second!)

en.wikipedia.org...


Using an analogy, the Casimir plates could be used in a manner
that is similar to the operation of electrostatic speakers or ribbon
microphones so that energy cells can cause radiative energy
such as photons or infra-red (heat) to vibrate the walls
as the gas moves through the plates thus turning them
into nano-transducers which could (MIGHT) directly
create an electrical current.

I suspect that this is what the company is intending to happen
within their energy cells but I personally think the plates have
to be closer together than 10 microns in order to take full
advantage of the effects they have described.

The electron orbits of the gas molecules as they are FORCED
to move in-between the Casimir plates are compressed into a
smaller volume and taking advantage of another law of physics,
that there will be an eventual equal and opposite reaction to
such compresssion, will cause a release of energy such as
possibly photons or heat which can then be absorbed
by another medium or device such as a heat-exchanger or
photo-cell (i.e. mini solar cell).

Like I said earlier, the device will PROBABLY WORK with
some tweaks and I have begun a program of reading
some physics textbooks and examination of other devices
that purport to use the Casimir effect or Van Der Waals forces.
I simply DO NOT KNOW how the shape or size of the cavities
they describe will EXTRACT energy from the ZERO-point ether,
since I think this device may use energy creation based upon
more well-known effects rather than interactions with zero-point
energy vacuums. (i.e. use of inherent gas molecule
attraction/repulsion via Van der Waals forces for the
production of radiative energy)

I am also studying some lectures from years ago which I still
have somewhere in my archives which may highlight the
base-level how and why of a working physics model of this
device. I hate building something if don't understand
HOW or WHY it works, so I will continue my reading for the
next few weeks while trying some general Autocad/Maya3D
tinkering to see if a working version could be built to confirm
either way whether this device could work.

The key here is to do ALL the work on the computer FIRST
(i.e. CAD/CAM/Finite Element Analysis) before committing
a design to CNC-based manufactured hardware.

It saves money and time in the long run to model the device
on a computer first rather than keep trying to build and tweak
a "Real-World" version of the device over and over again!

So I'll keep you all posted on development BUT don't expect
anything for 6 to 8 weeks which will be a general CAD design.
For a physical working model I'll make a general GUESS at
5 to 6 months (i.e. July/August 2009)

So subscribe to the thread and keep looking here for updates
on this fun-to-do, after-hours project about every 7 to 14 days
or so. (this is in addition to my UAV project! - Could be fun!)

Hope this helps.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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That is not the only ZPE patent claim.

Plenty of storyline there is someone wants to put together a synopsis of the short history.

What is surprising is that it is not made part of the right around 200 patents per year stateside that are withheld for National Security provisions.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 08:41 PM
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From above:




It isn't nanometres apart that the Casimir plates are installed
but in the 10 micron range....I suspect that the energy extraction
effect might be improved if the plates were close enough together


Thats what I heard, it only works for that specific dimension or
gradient.




Plenty of storyline there is someone wants to put together a synopsis of the short history.

What is surprising is that it is not made part of the right around 200 patents per year stateside that are withheld for National Security provisions.


When not given to the National Security Illuminati, the Free Energy
inventions go the way of Gray's and Meyer's perhaps with disabled
inventors. Tesla started to keep all his inventions secret and in the
end the pressure was too much to take and the Illuminati finally got
the electrical engineering haul of the century.

With lack of interest by the Illuminati of his day, Tesla sold technology
to Germany in 1914. One of Tesla's funders, John Jacob Astor, died
in the Titanic disaster of 1912. Did the shipping company put in
a ships' captain ready to retire in hopes of getting insurance money
in a lackadaisical commanding?
And thereby eliminating funding to Tesla? Tesla conspiracies way back then.
That is extreme but Tesla's lab burned down and the next day Linde
got the European patent for liquid air, an assumed non relativistic
medium.

Some inventors are holding back so that the Illuminati can't steel
any more zero point inventions or processes.
The families carry on the research and development that did not
happen with Tesla.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 11:35 PM
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Actually, I had the same reaction as StargateSG7. This is the first claim to a free energy device that I've seen that I think actually has a chance to work. The patent claimed that existing microfabrication technology such as that used to build microchips could make that device, but I'm a little skeptical about that. I suppose it is possible, since this device has 1.3 billion tubes that have to be aligned, which seems a lot until you think about how many transistors are on a computer processor, and they align the stuff on there well enough to work.

This is definitely worth keeping up with, and good luck to them making this work. I suspect there will be a lot of practical issues to work out, as with any other new technology, but it looks very promising.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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It is interesting how radiant energy is tossed around these
days as it appears to be one of the tenants of Free Energy from
the Ether.


Einstein’s contradictory theory presupposes that mass is not “energy”, since, only during some non-spontaneous process of interconversion of mass into radiant energy, or radiant energy into mass, could “work be done”. Mass appears impertinent, and “C = E/R” (Tesla’s equation, which excludes mass) appears true, saying that, at C, Energy E, is divided by resonant frequency R. ‘Massless’ radiant energy, or “cosmic radiation”, is dynamic energy stored in transit in space, by the vibrations of the ether. I define space as a volume, which is never empty, but contains an ether, and omnidirectionally interpenetrating radiant energy, of many frequencies. The energy level of radiant energy is determined by its frequency. This radiant energy is the ZPR.


12th paragraph under the heading: EINSTEIN WAS A NEW-AGER

The massless energy equation

Surprising it mirrors the mass less Plank Energy equation E = h X frequency.

In that ZPE comes from tapping the resonant frequency R of the
of the ether which is multiplied by the speed of light only once.
So rearranging the equation above we get E = R x C, if one knows
where to tap this energy.

Non related theories and stories from the same author is summarized
in the "Pub abt 1993, how the UFO got here." link in my signature.
But number 18. was this interesting theory.



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