posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 10:21 PM
As far as I can tell, America sided itself with Israel for all the wrong reasons.
I can try explain my views but there are so many propagandists around that it isn't worth starting a thread about it, unless you're kind of a
So I salute you and jump in here since i know most of the touchy points will get ignored anyway, less harm for me but at least I will get it out of my
- First, the religious stuff. So yes, america is very religious, and so are Jews, and as we often forget, sometimes to a fault in its orthodox forms.
So let's see into that.
It all goes back to the fact that Israelis (where we should say zionists) say the land was given to them by God, and so it is their blood/divine
I quote from wikipedia : "In the course of its history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and
recaptured 44 times."
That makes me think either God has a neverending sense of humor, or someone didn't get the message right.
In my words, I'd say, well, maybe God gave it to them, but somehow, in their history, Jews must have done something really wrong, hence God took it
back from them, punished them.
Last relic from their glorious days is the wailing wall, last remnants from Solomon's temple that was destroyed by babylonians. And if you keep on
looking at history, you'll see that about everyone in the region kicked serious ass : Persians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Romans... And that's leaving
muslims apart with intent.
So yes, that's the sign i see in the facts, and so did they.
-Over the course of history, Jews kinda gave up on Israel and so the diaspora happened.
They went living all around the world, as a people with no state. And so it lasted until WWII. But the myth of the Jew conspiracy was there ever since
Christ got cruxified. During the middle ages, Jews were forbidden to have quarters inside the city walls, they were forbidden jobs considered
virtuous. And so they were allowed in the cities only at day for trading, and had to leave at night to go sleep away.
-The conspiracy inside the conspiracy. I don't see Jews as a whole, just because they ain't so. Inside, some families/tribes are considered more
noble than others. When they sensed the troubles that were coming in germany, many flew away, and of course, the richer flew further from troubles.
Sadly the ones that got caught in the net are the ones with poor resources, when the rich ones were seeing it all happen from far away.
I just don't buy the story that no one knew what was happening in the camps until they came accross them. It is just foolish to think so, everybody
And so it is part of the guilt felt by americans for not engaging earlier that drives today's stance. But not only. It is true that the old
continent, after 2 millenia still carries a lot of antisemitism, and all the nice speeches we see in the media won't change what's in people's
hearts. It's been like that for ages, it's a fact. But where the old continent has a lot to make forgive and forget, america has a cleaner story on
-plus, the advantage of beeing home to the richest jews, even if they're also the less religious ones. Because, cash is the economy's blood, and
that's a fact that doesn't really need to be discussed.
So, back to cash and oil.
Cash and Oil.
Because that's the real issue, not the religious crap.
And that's what makes me sick, because behind all the speech about righteousness, right to the land, self defense or proactive defense, or whatever
they call it, the only issue is cash and oil.
And the rich jew families orchestrating this farce / massacre in hopes of future gains.
Just look at the story of the Exodus boat, how it was paid by wealthy zionists, how they went fetch some poor jews and they packed them on the boat
like animals. And then how they manipulated the media hoping for a massacre by the english troops.