Originally posted by Deaf Alien
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I think this is very important and the "beginning" of Christianity theology.
If you were born "dirty", then why is it your responsibility? Why is it your fault?
If you were created in God's image, then why are you full of sin at birth, even though you haven't done anything yet?
This is one of major flaws of Christianity.
In a nutshell, "they" want you to feel guilty of your existence.
Ok here's what's going on.
Birth is by no means a beginning.
Birth is an effect of a state of mind that goes way back to before time.
Before time, there was no such things as a body.
Still isn't except in imagination [images].
The images are the net effects of some emotions stirred up before time.
One of those emotions is guilt.
Were it not for the emotion of guilt, birth would not be a phenomenon.
Guilt is part of a "sin" complex...a set of beliefs that are not true.
There is a connection between each which is born to the beginning of time.
Each is born following a decision tree.
So each one's arrival to where s/he seems to be has been a kind of wandering.
All of this wandering is done in the mind of Christ.
All of this wanderind is summed up by the story of the "prodigal son".
Each that is born inherits beliefs and ideology and ways of thinking that trace their geneology back to the "beginning".
Physical birth is a kind of deception.
The body is a kind of deception, made for self-deception
The body, as such, is a toy in mind.
It is for wandering...striving...and for proving that guilt is the truth.
Guilt is not the truth.
But, all who are born are born because deep down, they believe in guilt.
So, it is said that children are born in sin...guilty.
This is because they would not be born were it not for an insane way of thinking, driven mad by guilt.
The body is a kind of salvation from guilt....temporarily.
The body buffers the acute feelings of guilt...for a while.
So its a kind of hide out...hiding from emotions that drive fear.
Events and circumstances then arise to prove that guilt is justified.
This is all the world is really doing.
At this stage of the blame game, its not unusual to have been born a thousand times since the beginning of time.
Time is not linear, it is all at once.
It is only the sense of guilt that makes a linear experience of time.
Without guilt, each one would be removed from the linear exprience of time, and from time altogether.
There is a correlation between time and mass.
But there is also a correlation between mass and guilt.
As a rule of thumb, the more you believe the world is real, the more you feel guilty.
Jesus came to turn this around.
He told the truth.
Truth is, the conditions that seem to justify guilt are not true.
So, guilt cannot be true either.
The condition that sets up the feeling of guilt is the concept of separation from oneness
Separation is the concept of a separate will each to his own, each to his own truth.
Separation is the beginning of a fantasyland, in which each sees what s/he wants.
This, if true, effectively destroys truth and reality.
Judged to be true by a powerful mind, separation seems to become the "truth", instead of the oneness of truth.
This invoked and conjures up feelings that were not ever experienced in reality.
The universe is a reaction to these feelings.
The universe functions as the proverbial fig leaf.
The universe is a place to hide.
Bodies are part of the hiding mechanism.
A body is the last place God would look for anything
God can be anywhere...except a body.
So a body functions to keep God out.
It functions to limit the unlimited.
It functions to limit love.
This effectively adulterates love and makes it meaningless.
So, the more "real" is one experience of a body, the more acute the feelings of guilt.
If true, the body represents identity theft.
A body is something to "be" which God did not give...does not will.
So every minute spent in a body is a minute spent trying to justify one's existence.
This justification is dealt with in different ways.
Christianity started out with the explanation I've given you
But then it took a detour and decided to uphold guilt as the truth instead of dispelling it.
So, they say children are born in sin, rather than an untrue set of beliefs tracing back to the beginning of time.
The truth has been lost and a distortion has taken its place.
None are guilty of anything.
But this is not necessarily what anyone wants to hear.
Because, this would end each one's existence as a body/person.
So, there is a krazy kind of kristianity which actually functions to perpetuate guilt...so that it may continue to experience the percieved benefits
of masquerading as a person with a body.
The body affords the only opportunity in all of eternity to be *special*.
This is primarily why guilt is valued.
Guilt is the only way anyone can be special.
To value the reality of the universe or to value guilt as real...this has the same net effect.