The END of Hate Speech, subtle or otherwise, on ATS, page 2
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reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 03:18 PM by pieman
reply to post by YoungStalin



the thing is, the big issue i have is, what i find tolerable to say to another member is not the same as what you think is tolerable.

i really trust the ATS mods to be reasonably balanced in this regard, i think it'll work out fine, but i'm a little worried that this hate speech thing will be tossed around as liberally as the old anti-semite accusation.


[edit on 5/2/09 by pieman]


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 03:21 PM by YoungStalin
reply to post by pieman



Yeah i just trust that the mods would know the difference between hate, crying wolf and be objective enough to see when their own judgement is being swayed by personal opinions. i mean that is why they are mods right?


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 03:30 PM by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by YoungStalin



However if I am going to be reported for "hate speech" every time I say something someone disagrees with, game theory is going to dictate that I too must report those who use "hate speech" when in argument with me.

Otherwise, I am going to be made to look like a troublemaker and they may get off without any trouble.

There is nothing wrong with asking for some clear guidelines. And examples.


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 03:35 PM by YoungStalin
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander



Well first off i know you are a fighter on ATS and this is not a debate there are debate threads. I do not think that members have to be policed by the mods but they should have an objective viewpoint when looking into complaints and take action themselves when there is somthing that is without a doubt hate.


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 03:52 PM by pieman
reply to post by Skyfloating



the royal families of europe are incestuous scum

switzerland is guilty of war crimes.

yeah, i get it.


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 03:59 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by schrodingers dog



Wait so I'm not able to say that I hate religion now?



reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 03:59 PM by pieman
reply to post by Skyfloating



my point being that the thread title clearly states "subtle or otherwise", the OP states clearly that we face an immediate post ban and membership review, yet no-one wants to define hate speach except to give the loosest examples.

inflammatory threads and out and out racism is a heck of a lot different to "subtle" hate speech.

as someone else rightly said, hate speech is speech you hate.


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 04:00 PM by MoonMine
Originally posted by Crakeur
I didn't expect our members to have this much difficulty with this.

hate speech:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

threads started to fan the flames, rather than discuss an actual issue.


You have got to be KIDDING me.

ATS has just crossed a line as far as I am concerned and has shown its true colors.... O please define hate speech for us would ya.

Sorry Springer, I disagree. Either you have freedom of speech or you don“t.

No topic is taboo, and heated discussion should be allowed without personal attacks. If it is not, and a huge gray area like "Hate speech" is introduced here, then I start to wonder what I am doing here in the first place

This is ATS, not a tea-party. I get my daily conspiracy shot here.

There is no such thing as politically correct freedom, prove me wrong.

[edit on 5-2-2009 by MoonMine]


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 04:02 PM by schrodingers dog
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to
post by schrodingers dog



Wait so I'm not able to say that I hate religion now?



Of course you can say that.

Just don't hate "on" a particular religion.


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 04:06 PM by neformore
reply to post by MoonMine



ATS Terms and Conditions


2) Behavior: You will not behave in an abusive, hateful and/or racist manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.


Thats been in the T&C from day one. You never complained about it before - so now its being highlighted as an issue that the staff have noticed an increase in, howcome its a problem now?


reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 04:06 PM by Skyfloating
reply to post by pieman



I gave my interpretation of these rules. I`ll let the OP comment on his.
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