Haven't you answered your own question? You seem to have enough proof to at least prop up your idea, so I ask, why post it?? I read a book in the last year or so called America Alone. I think that was the title? That posits fundamentally what you are. The only real difference is that because of our Mexican American population, who are more or less all Christian, we as Americans will not be bred out like the Europeans or Japanese who have less than 50% of the birthrates of Muslims. Scariest book I've read since "The Hot Zone".

Originally posted by budski
Something I remember reading about quite some time ago, was a concern raised about the less well educated having more kids than "smarter" people, resulting in a dumbing down of the population as a whole, and creating a two tier society, with the upper tier slowly becoming scarcer.

Of course, dumb parents don't equal dumb children, but it was an interesting piece nonetheless.

As far as outbreeding a percieved enemy goes, I believe it has been very successfull in the past - especially for christianity.

Whether it would work today is open to question, but there is certainly a possibility that it could.

The problem with this theory - and I've heard it many a time - is that not all under-educated people are stupid.

The drop out rate for genius level IQ teenagers is quite high.

When you put that together with the number of people who are smart, but have some unrecognized learning disorder, AND some environment that makes it way less likely for them to get the help they need or encouragement - well you end up with quite a lot of under educated smart people.

The world is run by C students. Never forget it.

When the Western world gets serious about polygamy and cuts the funds to these families, these people will either go back home or limit the number of children to what they can realistically afford.
Which will end up being 2.4 children like everyone else.
So this big army that they are all wishing for isn't realistic unless they FOOT THE BILL for it and Imams and Ayotollahs send funds from their own pockets to finance it (which we know won't happen)

I have a theory that the Muslims are being used by the socialist countries to bring an end to their Social Security welfare schemes.
They can't do it at the moment or their would be riots.
And so, they allow in high breeders who they know will abuse the system just by their cultural family structures.
There will be a huge outcry at some point, the government will respond by cutting the system all together and TPTB will accomplish what it wanted in the first place.

For this huge potential future army to get to the numbers needed, the West would have to stay blind for at least another 20-30 years.
With the financial crash people are already looking at ways that their governments can shave unnecessary expenses and these polygamous breeders are in their line of sight already.

It would be foolish for anyone to have too many kids based on the global financial system over the next 10 years. Not unless they have the cash saved up and stored away safe. Relying on Welfare countries to sprout out sprogs at the taxpayers expense is slowly coming to an end. IMO.

So with the end of the gravy train, also comes the end to multiple families relying on welfare. Only the rich Muslims will be able to do this, pretty much like now in their own countries/homelands.

Originally posted by Aeons
The world is run by C students. Never forget it.

In 2004 John Kerry and George Bush were running for POTUS.
George Bush had a 'C' average in college. John Kerry had a 'C-'.

Originally posted by Flighty
When the Western world gets serious about polygamy and cuts the funds to these families, ....

You are right. We are sending 'aid' to these countries in which women have an average of 6 kids each .. and the men an average of something like 24 kids each.

We are funding the birth of the army that will be our destruction.

Interesting thread, I see this alot in South Africa, the blacks far outnumber the whites and when voting day comes along, the whites dont stand a chance against the black political party, the ANC. It started in 1994 when the ANC won the election. I dont think a white party will ever have controll over South Africa again. The DA who are a half black half white party only won for the Western Cape which is where I live, luckily.

I'm not too sure this theory has any ground to walk on. But in all fairness, .... and to keep an open mind.
I'm willing to put this theory into effect in my own life.
For ATS, ..... and for my Country !!! .... yeah !!

So any females feel free to throw me a wink. ..... and if you don't. ..... well I guess it just shows how much you love your country.

In fact I'm willing to take it a lil farther, ... and say you hate your country and want the terrorists to win. ..... country haters.

Originally posted by Flighty
When the Western world gets serious about polygamy and cuts the funds to these families, these people will either go back home or limit the number of children to what they can realistically afford.
Which will end up being 2.4 children like everyone else.
So this big army that they are all wishing for isn't realistic unless they FOOT THE BILL for it and Imams and Ayotollahs send funds from their own pockets to finance it (which we know won't happen)

That is the answer, child support up to 2 children and 2 children only. This would also help stabilise population growth and expansion into green areas.
It partially worked in China, where they introduced a similar ruling, except now they have huge orphanages where unwanted children are dumped, mainly girls due to dowries.

Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
child support up to 2 children and 2 children only.

It would not work in most places that have child support.

In those Islamic countries that allow four wives, and each average 6 kids, the man is SUPPOSED to be taking care of all of them.

Here in the USA limiting child support to two wouldn't work.
It would be a nightmare of law suits.

Interesting thread, The U.S.A has been using a variation on the theme since it began. We use a qualitative rather than a quantitative approach to the problem.

We import the best minds, at the expense of the ones we already have. They intermingle over generations. The best remaining of other nations are simultaneously diminshed in number and perhaps in quality over time.

I do not know if the impact is statistically significant from the diminshment perspective.

Add to that pruning the less well aculturated from the population via war, and you have yourself one fine eugenics experiment.

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I recently heard (heard .. so I can't post a source to click on) that there are 10-20 Million Illegals in the US which means they make up 3-6% of the US population. It was also stated that 8-10% of all children born in the USA are born to a mother that is here illegally. I have no idea if these stats are accurate, but if so I'd call that a form of outbreeding.

Change happens. Nothing is constant.