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Originally posted by martinhuyton
reply to post by lernmore
If this footage 'from' NASA is real and untouched, by that I mean this is the actual footage shot by NASA, then there is no way that these "floating" objects can be anything other than extraterrestrial craft. The tether acts as a giant ruler and many of the objects are passing behind it, which means some of them have to be several miles in diameter. The objects all look the same and for this reason alone they cannot be space debris. What's more, they are all pulsating at a regular rate.
I have watched this footage dozens of times and I can find nothing to disprove it's authenticity. The one thing that continues to bug me is where did this footage come from, is it genuine NASA footage, if so, how did NASA allow it to escape their clutches when security is so tight, I mean, they are claimed to be airbrushing out objects in their photographs prior to release to the general public. How on earth did this almost conclusive evidence make it into the public's hands?
Originally posted by Akezzon
Particles are pretty small in size right? In my opinion that is why they are called particles. Many times you need a microscope to see them.
In order to see something that small, most of all in space, where you have a black background, don't you need a light sorce from behind YOU in order to have the light reflect on the particles?
So if it is particles infront of the camera, how the heck can they be lit up as they are no matter how they zoom and focus?
Originally posted by Akezzon
Why are there so much "particles" at that point and at no other video ever taken?
Originally posted by hackbart
i have to admit that the appearance of some objects passing behind the tether is a common effect in optics and got reproduced several times. Unfortunatly i can't find the video anymore and have not the equitment to reproduce it again.
Originally posted by Akezzon
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
Originally posted by mikesingh
As I had mentioned earlier, what we're seeing are donuts a few km across but probably having a thickness of a few meters which would not be visible whilst seeing it edge-on.
Why can we not see these objects from Earth? When the tether broke, it was visible from Earth. If these objects are two or three kilometers across, why can't see them down here?
Originally posted by mikesingh
However, I would like to mention those donuts in space were photographed in UV light and not in the visual spectrum. That's probably why they could not be seen from down here.
Originally posted by depthoffield
Another confusion here with "out of spectrum" camera.
Yes, NASA cameras in discussion can see in near ultraviolet light too. But this it doesn't mean that it ONLY sees in ultraviolet. In fact, those cameras sees in visible spectrum too, but in near-ultraviolet also. Because the senzor is capable of that. It simply has a larger spectrum senzitivity than the eye. Of course, for low light situations, when every bit of light is gold, somebody have to be idiot to sacrifice the extended senzitivity of the senzor and limit it just to visible spectrum. And near ultraviolet light is just light. The focus/out of focus phenomenon is exactly the same. The same situation with your ordinary home camera or photo-camera, which have some senzitivity to the infrared spectrum (which eye cannot see). The difference here is that letting infrared senzitivity will alter the colours, so, ussually there is a filter on top of the senzor which stop most infrared light. But, a little senzitivity yet remains, as you can see when filming your remote control for TV in action.
So, beeing in near-UV, doesn't mean at all that those debris particles (or their Airy discs) are not also visible in visible spectrum too. It is just a misleading to make you think only at invisible misterious alien activities. And remember, in NASA video, when operator asks the astronaut what is there, he speaks clearly about debris:
"and there is a litlle bit of debris which flying with us"
So, it is visible to the eye!
Originally posted by Akezzon
We don't know if the UV spectrum video shows more than the Astronauts see with their own eyes, simply cause we don't have a second video to compare it to.
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Originally posted by Akezzon
Cause we don't have enough material to work with.
Originally posted by Akezzon
Anyway.
Shouldn't the dust particles in that video look like the ones in the STS video? Or atleast have a similiar look?
I can't see the how these look alike.
Originally posted by fleabit
Just the fact that each of the objects in that video come into the frame going in one direction, and at the same speed (for each object), and they continue in a straight line until they leave the frame, pretty much tells me these are not sentient in any way. They don't act like controlled objects (controlled craft, or organisms).
Originally posted by fleabit
They act just like inanimate objects, as far as I can tell. I do not think ufos or creatures are swarming the tether. Also, the fact that the objects are going different directions, and would all have to maintain some amazingly fast and constant and *different* speeds (if going the same way, versus going the opposite direction), makes it fairly obvious to me at least, that this is debris.