‘Alien Donuts’ In Space! Too Much Of A Coincidence To Be Debunked?, page 3
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reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 11:14 PM by mikesingh
Originally posted by Emipie
But in the tether-video, there is no up or down, but still we see all objects as 'donuts'. Meaning from topside or from beneath.

If those where all donutshaped ufo's, shouldn't we then at least see some of them from the side, not revealing a donutshape ??


As I had mentioned earlier, what we're seeing are donuts a few km across but probably having a thickness of a few meters which would not be visible whilst seeing it edge-on. You can't see a coin edge-on from even a few yards away. There may have been many more donuts out there but not visible due to this reason. What have been photographed are objects that are only facing the cameras broad side on or from the top/bottom.

And those who contend that these are just dust particles or part of the lens have not answered the question as to why these donuts are pulsating? Dust particles don't do this in a vacuum. And then there's the question of sudden directional changes. They should continue moving in one direction unless an external force is applied to them.

And of course there's the issue of focus. One obviously cannot photograph dust/ice particles tens of miles away! And if they were that close to the lens, they would have been totally out of focus whilst photographing the tether miles away!

NASA itself admits that the crafts were spotted by the space agency's own cameras during a space shuttle mission! They didn't even mention anything about dust/ice particles!

As regards what depthoffield had mentioned that the ‘notches’ are consistent with the position in the frame of the camera which demonstrates the relationship between the shape of the orbs and their position in the frame, what of the following report in the BBC?

Ms Rowlands says she filmed the object while it hovered in the sky about two miles away. "It resembled a giant disc with a bite taken out of the bottom," she told reporters. "As it hovered over the woods, it seemed to expand and then get smaller again.” We could see it pulsing as if it started up and then it just went and came really close at one stage and I thought it was going to land in the field.


"The video shows what appears to be a large craft that emits red, yellow, orange and blue lights and has a dark circle in its centre. It hovers in the sky before moving to the right and emitting pulses of light from its left-hand side. It then flips over showing two deep scarlet lights, and disappears in a red flash.

So certain was Ms Rowlands of the film's value, that she had locked it in a Nottingham bank vault before sending it to America."


Now compare this report with the discs photographed in the Tether incident. The coincidence is too much to be brushed away with mundane explanations!

Cheers!

news.bbc.co.uk...



reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 11:24 PM by Phage
reply to post by mikesingh



The donuts are not pulsating. This has been answered. They are tumbling, rotating. Because they are irregularly shaped the intensity of the light reflected by them varies with the rotation.

They are totally out of focus. That is why they appear to hold the same shape and orientation. We are not seeing the particles, we are seeing the distorted image of an out of focus object. The circular shape we see, as has been demonstrated, has nothing to do with the actual shape of the particles but with the characteristics of the camera.

The particles appear to change direction for two reasons; a) they do change direction as a result of the directional control jets of the shuttle pushing them around b) they appear to change direction because of shuttle/camera motion.

Please provide a source of NASA's admission that crafts were spotted.

Ms Rowland's video image is typical of what happens when digital zoom is used on a point source of light.


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reply posted on 6-2-2009 @ 03:03 AM by Exuberant1
reply to post by mikesingh



People have been photographing these bioforms for years(since 1957) - just not in the visible spectrum ;-)

I cite the work of Trevor James Constable;
(Then I sit back and watch them try to debunk reality...)


(Image courtesy of RoswellRods)

Another Shot By Trevor James Constable:

(Image courtesy of BurlingtonNews)


[edit on 6-2-2009 by Exuberant1]


reply posted on 6-2-2009 @ 03:18 AM by Exopolitico
Originally posted by Phage
reply to
post by mikesingh



The donuts are not pulsating. This has been answered. They are tumbling, rotating. Because they are irregularly shaped the intensity of the light reflected by them varies with the rotation.

They are totally out of focus. That is why they appear to hold the same shape and orientation. We are not seeing the particles, we are seeing the distorted image of an out of focus object. The circular shape we see, as has been demonstrated, has nothing to do with the actual shape of the particles but with the characteristics of the camera.


[edit on 2/5/2009 by Phage]


Phage. With all due respect. I would be so curious to know which branch of the US government you belong to. You are telling us that the objects do not pulsate? Are you looking at the same videos? I am yet to see one single post of yours that ever agrees with anything plausible. If I didn't know better, I would say you are a paid intel disinformation agent/debunker.

What can you say about the objects that stop and change direction? That's right, there is a Phage logical explanation coming.

Don't you know we are very aware that secrecy alone was not enough and was escalated by paid disinformation agents?

I bet there will be more members who will agree with me than you probably think. Members, if you agree with me, just star me to prove a point. Thank you.


[edit on 6-2-2009 by Exopolitico]


reply posted on 6-2-2009 @ 04:29 AM by Razimus
reply to post by mikesingh



These donut UFOs look like a massive BLOOD CELL, it's maybe the earth's natural blood cells fighting off disease? Repairing the ozone? You know the Earth is a living being, we are but specks of lint on it's surface, the Earth speaks, it has a voice, you wanna know what it's saying? Mother Earth said the following,

"Wo, wo is me, the mother of men; I am pained, I am weary, because of the wickedness of my children. When shall I rest, and be cleansed from the filthiness which is gone forth out of me? When will my Creator sanctify me, that I may rest, and righteousness for a season abide upon my face?"


reply posted on 6-2-2009 @ 04:56 AM by hgfbob
reply to post by depthoffield



I have always been fascinated by the tether video, and the 'things' that seem to be, 'all too interested in it'.
My personal opinion, is, ....ready.......they resemble 'jelly fish'._javascript:icon('')..and I think they are 'living' organisms.
We already have discovered certain types that live in conditions, where nothing else on earth can live...deep ocean, next to poisonous thermal outcrops, and some of the 'space jellyfish', reflect the same characteristics that 'jellyfish' on earth do, spinning luminescence, the way they move, and we have 'just' discovered a type, that seems to live forever. I forget where I read that, but it was recent...maybe here.
maybe they come here to breed their young???and have done it for millions of years...there are 'reproductions, (drawn, or carved in stone), that are similar to these shapes, all throughout history.....ahhh, who knows, but, just my 2 cents



reply posted on 6-2-2009 @ 07:32 AM by jackphotohobby
reply to post by SaviorComplex



Lol. If Phage is a disinformation agent so are UFO Hunters, on the History Channel (Episode: The NASA files), and everyone else who knows anything about cameras and optics, who disagrees with the alien explanation of what amounts to detritus.

It is detritus, it has being shown to be detritus.

If people have got to the point they are calling other people disinformation agents it's pathetic. The sceptics on this thread have been nothing but polite. Being rude never enhances an argument.

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reply posted on 6-2-2009 @ 07:38 AM by Majorion
reply to post by SaviorComplex



Hate to drift off-topic, but just a small comment.

In exopolitico's defense, as I speak, he already got 6 stars for his post.. and considering his post is on the middle of page 3; you'd have to agree that that's quite a rare thing to happen. Not saying he's right or wrong, but his point is evidently somewhat valid with all due respect


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