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‘Alien Donuts’ In Space! Too Much Of A Coincidence To Be Debunked?

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posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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This documentary on the Dropa's Stones is too interesting to miss: shop.history.com...

This is what/who i believe these craft are linked to
There is a lot of debate about the validity of the stones and their story... Watch the documentary!




posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 12:13 PM
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I've seen some weird stuff flying around in the sky over my city here. They seem to be glowing orbs. I know some may think I'm a bit crazy...(and that's fine) but I think they are spiritual in nature. There has been an increase in this activity lately. I believe this coincides with the times we're living in. I also think that our government is well aware of what they are so they put this negative spin such as " An alien invasion by grey people". They want us to believe that it's something bad when actually it's something good. Again using the spectacle of fear as leverage. Hey, it's their canvass they can paint the picture however they wish....even though it's a big lie.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 12:19 PM
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Ye ye ... i've seen these pictures in an documentary. The documentary was about a man from Canada who was tracing nasa videos from space with his equipement. About the donuts, ok maybe they are UFO's but what about the lines he was talking about in his documentary, he studied 1 second of a video and in the 17th or 18th frame he saw a line in space, a red one. Now what is that ? If u want i will give the name of the documentary, i have it at home. Just tell me
peace



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Zeus2573
I've seen some weird stuff flying around in the sky over my city here. They seem to be glowing orbs. I know some may think I'm a bit crazy...(and that's fine) but I think they are spiritual in nature. There has been an increase in this activity lately. I believe this coincides with the times we're living in. I also think that our government is well aware of what they are so they put this negative spin such as " An alien invasion by grey people". They want us to believe that it's something bad when actually it's something good. Again using the spectacle of fear as leverage. Hey, it's their canvass they can paint the picture however they wish....even though it's a big lie.


i am with you on that 100 percent. i've been seeing these as well and they seem to just float, atleast the ones i've seen, and not move much. i have one on video, just need to transfer from hi8 to computer. these ET's i believe know Jesus, like we do in a way, but are much more advanced and have technology to perform his miracles. i believe we all came from one source - we will be tricked im sure in the near future, but be prepared everyone, our God wont let us down! wow i feel like a preacher. lol.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:56 PM
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Preach on. I like what you preach!



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 06:39 PM
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haha thanks my friend. I really do believe that there is a strong connection with ET's and Jesus, and what some may call God, Creator, The Source etc... If we are destined to have some kind of Godly intervention, which is stated in The Bible, which im sure will happen, think of the ET's , who are thousands and possibly millions of years ahead of us. Im sure they went through what we are going to go through, they ascended, and are now part of The Creator (God) and serving him to help us in our troubles we face now. People can believe what they want, but we all came from one source. No matter what religion.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 01:27 AM
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Thanks for the answers.


Regarding the "notch" issue..

My question was:

"question 2) Do you think that the notches are details of alien spacecrafts or not? I mean, the alien spacecrafts are discs with notches or not? "

And your answer was:


Originally posted by ziggyproductions05

2. yes, i do believe, thru studies of my own, they are space craft, more along the lines of light craft, merkabahs (sp)
. It could also be the notches are windows or viewing areas of some sort.



But, studying STS-75 video, i've seen one illogical aspect of the notches: the notches appearance is in absolute direct relation with the position in the frame. This is illogical, if multiple different UFO's are flying through space. Why their notches, despite different UFO's, despite different trajectories, appears exactly the same when in the same area of the image?

Look for the following 3 minutes video extracted from STS-75 :



It may be neccessary to watch several times the movie, concentrating to every area selected.

So, i have delimited 4 area in the frame, with different colors. The shape of every different big disc (small discs cannot be seen well due to low quality of the video) when it is in that area is unique to that zone:



If notches are details from actual alien ship there (or critter), then why the notches are not consistent in all the frame, but it is specific, in fact unique to certain areas? Can be UFO's aware for their position in the image captured by some NASA camera, and morphing accordingly? And why do they do this?
If any big disc is in the red rectangle area, it will have the shape of a disc with two notches in the upper part of the disc.
If any big disc is in the blue rectangle area, then it will have the shape of a disc with one notch upper and one notch bottom of the disc.
If any big disc is in the green rectangle area, then it will have the shape of a disc with one notch in the bottom of the disc.
If any big disc is in the yellow rectangle area, then it will have the shape of a more squashed oblique disc with one notch in the bottom of the disc (not exactly disc anymore).

And there is no exception, the notches are obedient to the NASA camera.

This, for me, this is logical an argument that the notches are NOT details from the UFO's, but are only camera effects.
So, the notches are not real, and we should ignore them, since the camera fool us.

What it is your opinion for this notch problem?



[edit on 11/2/09 by depthoffield]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by depthoffield
reply to post by ziggyproductions05
 


Thanks for the answers.


Regarding the "notch" issue..

My question was:

"question 2) Do you think that the notches are details of alien spacecrafts or not? I mean, the alien spacecrafts are discs with notches or not? "

And your answer was:


Originally posted by ziggyproductions05

2. yes, i do believe, thru studies of my own, they are space craft, more along the lines of light craft, merkabahs (sp)
. It could also be the notches are windows or viewing areas of some sort.



But, studying STS-75 video, i've seen one illogical aspect of the notches: the notches appearance is in absolute direct relation with the position in the frame. This is illogical, if multiple different UFO's are flying through space. Why their notches, despite different UFO's, despite different trajectories, appears exactly the same when in the same area of the image?

Look for the following 3 minutes video extracted from STS-75 :



It may be neccessary to watch several times the movie, concentrating to every area selected.

So, i have delimited 4 area in the frame, with different colors. The shape of every different big disc (small discs cannot be seen well due to low quality of the video) when it is in that area is unique to that zone:



If notches are details from actual alien ship there (or critter), then why the notches are not consistent in all the frame, but it is specific, in fact unique to certain areas? Can be UFO's aware for their position in the image captured by some NASA camera, and morphing accordingly? And why do they do this?
If any big disc is in the red rectangle area, it will have the shape of a disc with two notches in the upper part of the disc.
If any big disc is in the blue rectangle area, then it will have the shape of a disc with one notch upper and one notch bottom of the disc.
If any big disc is in the green rectangle area, then it will have the shape of a disc with one notch in the bottom of the disc.
If any big disc is in the yellow rectangle area, then it will have the shape of a more squashed oblique disc with one notch in the bottom of the disc (not exactly disc anymore).

And there is no exception, the notches are obedient to the NASA camera.

This, for me, this is logical an argument that the notches are NOT details from the UFO's, but are only camera effects.
So, the notches are not real, and we should ignore them, since the camera fool us.

What it is your opinion for this notch problem?
ziggyproductions05 reply:
well i think you may have swayed me a bit about the notches - my own vdeo cam, might have the same problem, because i have caught orbs, that looked identical, but thy werent in every single orb i got. Yes i do see the notches on other "UFO's" but thats haard for me to say that some of them couldnt be UFO's -not every object in the video i posted has those notches. i am just comparing what i saw in this video compared to what i have at home (sorry i dont have it posted, i dont have anyway to convert my HI8 tapes yet) and yes, maybe it is the way they just show up. Like i said before, they could be light ships, merkabads, and who knows how they show up. check out this vid below, i agree with the guy on a lot of what he says with "space debris". but i think these UFO's are intelligent and they showed up on the teather incident to say, "YES WE ARE HERE" - like in the video link i put below. thanks for the post. but please check out thge video below as well. this vid shows the airy discs, but no notches, this is all hard to explain- but i do agree with you, it could be camera artifacts causing the notches. i'll admit. watch vid below!

www.youtube.com...

[edit on 11/2/09 by depthoffield] [/q

[edit on 11-2-2009 by ziggyproductions05]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 05:50 AM
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Still beating the dead horse lens theory around eh? Why do we not see these lens problems in older UFO films and photos then. Just applies to video cameras from the era of the sts 75 and up I suppose????





Cheers!!!!

[edit on 11-2-2009 by RFBurns]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 05:57 AM
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I say it again.

Just because there is no logic doesn't mean it is impossible.
Right things are not always logic.
Logic is the way of the Obvious.

If we lived by this all the time I think we wouldn't develop so much as a race as we have. Most discoveries are made because someone had the guts to think outside the box and work from there.

Now, I am not saying DOF are totally wrong, but I am not saying he is right either. All I am saying is that you shouldn't be so fast to rule something out just because it is illogical.

For example, you shouldn't deny the possibilities that these discs could be something else than dust and lens effects just because the notches move and you find that illogical.

Well let's say these things really ARE alien. Then freakin' of course it is illogical. Their entire existence would be pretty illogical to us.

Logical things in our world might be just as logic OR illogic in another world. We can't just go by logic when it comes to discussions like these.

But that doesn't mean we should embrace it blindly, sceptism is needed as well. Ying & Yang.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 07:42 AM
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Considering that this effect only happens with out of focus bright objects, it should be visible on older videos and films, but where can we we find older films that show out of focus objects? If it was a commercial production, and unless they were part of the director or filmographer idea, those out of focus objects were probably edit out of the film.

But that is a good idea, I will look for older films to see if I can find something like that.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by RFBurns
Still beating the dead horse lens theory around eh? Why do we not see these lens problems in older UFO films and photos then. Just applies to video cameras from the era of the sts 75 and up I suppose????

What dead horse? And why? Because you said so?
Maybe only this particular camera on STS-75 has the issue. Why rule out this?
But, look, what it is more plausible, just in STS-75 to be a fleet of specific UFOs with notches (and very obedient to position in the frame), and in any other mission with alleged UFOs to not see never the same notched UFOs? It was a specific race of aliens never seen until and after? And, again, why the notches are depending just to the camera, if the notches are details of the UFOs?
I think it is a good reason that the notches are NOTHING TO DO with the real shape of the alleged UFO.



[edit on 11/2/09 by depthoffield]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by RFBurns
Still beating the dead horse lens theory around eh? Why do we not see these lens problems in older UFO films and photos then. Just applies to video cameras from the era of the sts 75 and up I suppose?


Perhaps because those older films and photos didn't have ice-particles floating in and out of the frame.

The only dead horse here is this case; despite shown the inconsistencies in the theory, despite shown the particulars of the objects changing based on their position to the camera, despite all the evidence, the believers still desperately cling to it. This dead horse shows how the power of belief (or rather, willful ignorance) will always over-ride rational explanations and evidence.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:40 AM
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OK now its really getting desperate isnt it you guys. No ice particles in space in the early years or on older films or photos, where can we find older films and photos, and this lens impurity problem only applies to modern cameras with modern lenses.



Ya..ok whatever. Google is your friend. Im sure plenty of old footage and photos can be found.


Cheers!!!!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by destroy the oligarchs
This documentary on the Dropa's Stones is too interesting to miss


You mean those disks that a) were originally made known to the world by the Russian Digest, the Soviet Union's answer to the National Inquirer, b) discovered by a fictional Chinese archaeologists, c) translated by a fictional Chinese linguist who doesn't even sport a genuine Chinese name d) despite being thousands of years old, sporting modern day Chinese and Japanes writing; and e) photographs of which show ordinary disks already known to archaeology.

Of course, the exact purpose of these disks are unknown...and we all know if it's unknown, it must be alien!

Plus, the story on the disks has no internal consistency. Advanced beings crash on Earth thousands of years ago, and while still possessing the technology to inscribe these stones with microscopic writing, were still somehow overwhelmed and destroyed by the spear-wielding natives. Except those who intermarried with the natives, ignoring the humans would be closer related to a strawberry than aliens from another world; we can't interbreed with things on Earth we are related to, but these aliens pulled it off.


Originally posted by destroy the oligarchs
This is what/who i believe these craft are linked to


I believe they are linked to chariot wheels!

I believe they are linked to bucklers!

Actually, I believe they are linked to ice-crystals.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by RFBurns
OK now its really getting desperate isnt it you guys


The only deseperation here is among the members who still want to cling on to this tripe as being evidence of aliens, despite every bit of evidence countering every single claim that this shows alien craft.

Close your eyes, plug your fingers in your ears, just ignore all the evidence. It is sad and pathetic.

Or better yet, show us one piece of evidence that demonstrates these are alien craft.


Originally posted by RFBurns
No ice particles in space in the early years or on older films or photos, where can we find older films and photos...


That is a pretty big statement there...want to prove it?


[edit on 11-2-2009 by SaviorComplex]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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These are actual craft. They are donut shaped with a wedge in the side. You can also see this craft in reinassance art looming in the sky above the madonna and above cities in a few paintings. They have been around a long time. What I find fascinating is the fact that these appeared AFTER the plasma tube blew out from the shuttle. There were thousands of ships cloaked that became visible due to the huge amount of light from the plasma. They were flying all over the place. My friend and I shot up off the couch when we first saw it. We were shocked.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 02:09 PM
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I'm sorry but theses looks like dust , not spaceships. Their number and the fact that their trajectory are lines make them looks really like dusts in the first place. It's not because it has been recorded in space that it suddenly become more plausible that it's aliens.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 04:05 PM
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It's not an issue of lens impurity, it's an issue of optics, and it affects all camera lens. Past and present. The reason you don't see much of it is quality control. My guess is that if the subject wasn't so important it would have been discarded or archived. Look UFOs:

www.dailymotion.com...

They're rubbish UFOs cause they're not donut shaped!!!! To have donut shaped
UFOs they would need a cadiotropic mirror lens, like NASA.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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Forgetting the lens-problems for a moment, let's look at one glaring inconsistency in the belief these are alien-craft. If NASA is engaged in a cover-up of extraterrestrials, why would they even bother releasing a video like this or allow it to be seen?



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