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Obama wants nukes cut by 80%

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posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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Obama wants nukes cut by 80%


www.russiatoday.com

Barack Obama is reportedly calling for ambitious arms reduction talks with Russia. According to the Times newspaper, the new US President wants to cut each country’s nuclear arsenal by 80 per cent.

The radical step would reduce the number of nuclear warheads to 1,000 from 5,000 on each side, the paper says.

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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With the rivalry building up between US and Russia once again in the last year, I think this is desperate attempt on behalf of Obama to contain Russia' poweress.

Just read the other day that Russia has 90 nuke subs compared to US's 60. They also have a much larger stockpile of nuke weapons compared to US

What is Obama trying to achieve? Contain Russia's firepower or is he really interested in peace and good relations with Russia?

www.russiatoday.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 10:44 PM
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The story, if true, is a step in a positive direction. I hope it is true. It would begin to set an example for the rest of the world how two former arch enemies, even though the USSR is no more, can once again relate to each other. Humanity and nuclear war don't mix very well. There can be no defense for an indiscriminate weapon such as an ICBM.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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I just want to know who or what agency is ensuring that each side keeps to its end of the deal.

Furthermore, I feel that both sides have other weapons that are just as lethal within their reach and that is why reducing nukes isn't that big of a deal.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 10:48 PM
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First thing I thought was(smoke screen). You have 5000 nukes, and wanna lower it to 1000. Hell whats the point you still have 1000 nucleor warheads. Ridiculous. All it takes is 1. I dont see the Russians acting on this either. They will just say "hell, this guy might get out in 4 years, and we might get a war monger in there, no thanks".



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 10:48 PM
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I believe the last President who wanted to diminish our military on such a scaled was JFK.

And we see how that turned out.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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It's good to know that we are on the right track to blow up the world less.
Jokes aside...maybe this could save some cash. We need to make cuts somewhere...nukes sitting around collecting dust wasting money is a good start.

If so I'm all for it.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
I just want to know who or what agency is ensuring that each side keeps to its end of the deal.

Furthermore, I feel that both sides have other weapons that are just as lethal within their reach and that is why reducing nukes isn't that big of a deal.


The Agency of Being able to Breath.

Because no matter what, if any of these super powers unloads an arsenal...which I never thought was THAT Big...it'd obliterate us anyway.

And another question....HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET AN ARSENAL OF 5000+ Nukes....with just TWO Countries?!

Edit*

Holy hell....that's not both, that's Each..what the hell are we doing spending so much money on worthless Nukes? WTF are we going to do with them if we don't use them?

[edit on 4-2-2009 by Riviera]



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 10:58 PM
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Holy hell....that's not both, that's Each..what the hell are we doing spending so much money on worthless Nukes? WTF are we going to do with them if we don't use them?


Well, it is not about actually using the nukes, it is more of a deterrent. It is also a symbol of the country's power and it earns a respect for you in the eyes of your rivals

I believe that the existing nuclear powers like US, Russia, France, China and India has shown considerable restraint in proliferating this technology and ensuring that it does not fall into wrong hands

The exception being Pakistan...while they seem to have nuclear capability, their actual ability to build and operate a stockpile of weapons is questionable and often exagerrated



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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I don't think that reducing our nuclear weapons will weaken or make our military smaller. In fact, it will only make it less able for us to totally obliterate human civilization, life, and maybe the planet itself. Besides the last time we actually used the bombs was in WW2 and lets hope they will never be used again.

I think he should reduce our amount by 100%. Be gone with that crap. We built 5,000 bombs, and fortunatley never used them. It was a complete waste of money that has left our world on the edge of being destroyed.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by sunny_2008ny

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Just read the other day that Russia has 90 nuke subs compared to US's 60. They also have a much larger stockpile of nuke weapons compared to US

If you mean nuclear powered subs, that may be true. If you mean SSBN's, then you're just wrong. The US only built 18 of them, Russia may have built more but many of those have been scrapped.

Here is a link for the US SSBN's..

www.fas.org...



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:06 PM
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Many of you guys are hitting it right on. I think the older these nukes get, the costlier it is to maintain them and possibly the danger of an accidental explosion increases. I see no reason not to reduce it further. However, I still feel that the reduction is meaningless because we will only find an alternative weapon that is capable of doing the same damage.

Mass destruction is here to stay.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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even though the USSR is no more, can once again relate to each other.


There was this news yesterday about the Central Asian countries of the erstwhile Soviet Union coming together with Russia to form a strategic defence alliance. Russia still exerts considerable influence over these countries and they are militarily and economically dependant on Russia for thier survival. The US has been desperately trying to get a foothold in this reigon but has not succeded yet.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
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Holy hell....that's not both, that's Each..what the hell are we doing spending so much money on worthless Nukes? WTF are we going to do with them if we don't use them?


Well, it is not about actually using the nukes, it is more of a deterrent. It is also a symbol of the country's power and it earns a respect for you in the eyes of your rivals


That was a rhetorical question...



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:13 PM
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That was a rhetorical question...


Got you !



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:24 PM
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One of the unresolved issues regarding our nuclear weapons is the efficacy of them over time. There is debate as to how much degradation of the plutonium would affect the operation of those weapons. Although some government THEORETICAL "studies" have concluded that the weapons will not lose "much" over the period since they were developed(they estimate 85 years as a "safe" time period), the FACT is that the US has not tested any weapons since 1992. T



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
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even though the USSR is no more, can once again relate to each other.


There was this news yesterday about the Central Asian countries of the erstwhile Soviet Union coming together with Russia to form a strategic defence alliance. Russia still exerts considerable influence over these countries and they are militarily and economically dependant on Russia for thier survival. The US has been desperately trying to get a foothold in this reigon but has not succeded yet.


There is that theory of the the Soviet communists playing long ball and pretending to go away. I think it's hogwash but some still believe I am sure.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:43 PM
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I agree, 100 nuclear warheads even is ample to ruin mankind.

5000?...

Imagine the cost in sustaining those aging monoliths.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 12:11 AM
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FACT is that the US has not tested any weapons since 1992


Are you sure? Dont you think that the govt carries out secret tests somewhere in Pacific where no one comes to know of it?



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 12:18 AM
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Are you sure? Dont you think that the govt carries out secret tests somewhere in Pacific where no one comes to know of it?


I think you meant to direct your question to me, since I posted the statement you question.
Anyway, given the sensitive monitoring devices that detect tectonic activity, such a test would be easily detected by monitoring devices around the world, not controlled by the US. Thus, I am sure that no tests have been conducted since the last recorded one in 1992.



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