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Topic started on 4-2-2009 @ 09:46 PM by Frankidealist35
I believe that yes, while he has been a busy person, and he has made some good changes, I think he needs to apologize for some of what has gone on early on.

Here are some things I believe that he should apologize for:

#1- Acting the same way as Bush for much of the first few weeks he's been President Elect. He was using a lot of fear mongering. It seemed that until his inauguration he lost his hope and change mantra, and, he resorted to the politics of fear.

#2- Obama needs to apologize for all of the corruption scandals. They've been nothing but a mere distraction and all they've done was fuel his critics. Obama needs to apologize for the corruption scandals because ever since Blagojevich became an issue with the press, and, the public, and people started focusing on him, it seemed like all this hope was lost for a while.

#3- Obama needs to apologize for almost flip-flopping on torture. He almost flip-flopped on torture by basically allowing rendition, and, he almost made it seem like he would send people overseas, then, at the last minute he corrected himself saying that he would not send those people overseas.

#4- Obama also needs to apologize for having appointed all of those Clintonites first. Lots of people on the left and the right became outraged of all the former Clinton appointees. Those people won't bring change. They're just "more of the same."

#5- Obama needs to apologize for his smear campaign against the GOP during the election. Obama has said some pretty nasty things about the conservative way of life during his election campaign. Remember his comment on guns and religion and conservatives clinging to it?

#6- Obama needs to clear up some of the things he's said. I've read some of the comments by him and they don't seem to match up with what he said on the campaign trail.

#7- Obama needs to clarify what he will do with NAFTA and free trade. We obviously can't simply just cut Europe off and make a "buy American clause". Judging from Europe's outroar there is a problem with simply just cutting off trade. I believe Obama is naive in this that he thinks by cutting off trade altogether with Europe that it's a good thing.

#8- I really question his economic policy. Obama needs to act in a way that would be the best interest for the free market. Otherwise I fear that we will come to the age of nationalization and socialization of banks and services.

#9- I question his stance on Universal Health Care. Government control of a service such as health care might be problematic. How is he going to implement Universal Health Care without Tom Daschel? Also, I question his bill which gives children health care, allegedly the bill would give illegal immigrants health care which other people don't.

#10- Obama needs to apologize for almost breaking the hearts of all the liberals. Some of his decisions have been criticized by others as silly at best, or, perhaps, well, maybe that he should have gotten to the Democratic Congress and told them to be bipartisan too, because apparently they weren't listening to him on his election campaign when he was talking about how people should be nonpartisan.

Also, lastly

#11- I believe Obama needs to really just clarify where he stands on the issues. I've seen him just be all over the place in some areas. I think it would be a good thing if he was more consistent with his issues.

Those are the things which I, believe, that Obama should apologize for.

I am not liberal or conservative. I am a moderate libertarian. So I am not attacking him because of party affiliation.

I just believe that Obama should really apologize for these things so we know that perhaps that Obama might not be a corrupt politician after all, he needs to apologize more, not just for Tom Daschel, but with all those other people too and, he also needs to bring back the "hope" which was almost lost during the election campaign.

It's like this "hope" almost flickered for a while.

That is why I believe Obama needs to apologize.


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 09:59 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by ConservativeJack


That's how I look t it.

I think Obama made several mistakes, which, is understandable.

But the amount of mistakes that he made aren't the issue here. It's the kind of mistakes he made. He ran on a campaign of transparency of government.

It seems as if he's been cursed for all the people who he selects to have corruption scandals.

All Obama needs to do is to tell people that he's still on the same page as we are, or, that he just needs to show by his actions that he can move on from it.

I believe he can make up for a lot of what happened early on but that still will not change the fact that he's provided fire to fuel his critics and it's only been a few weeks.


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 10:08 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by Res Ipsa


I'm not hoping that Obama is going to "fail" here. I just don't put my blind faith in any one politician no matter who he is. No matter if he's the President or no matter if he's Ron Paul or someone else with a big reputation.

I just believe that Obama has potentially tainted his administration with what's happened.

I hope that he does better and that this won't be a problem for him later on.

And while saying he screwed up for me is enough he needs to tell the American people where he screwed up with some of these little things... or at least apologize and tell us he'll do better. It is of my opinion that he has some responsibility to apologize to us about the Democratic Congress's behavior...

I just think that he should not just apologize for his own actions but to also apologize for the way that it's made us feel about him when all of the corruption scandals were going on, and, like the one with that new guy. I would rather at least like for him to acknowledge how it makes us feel. He's done that before. But, I'm just saying that some of his actions are questionable. All I'm saying is that I would like for him to apologize for the drama that went on early on that really was a huge distraction that kep people from focusing on the economy...

I support him because he is our President. I just think there are those out there that who have lost faith in him and he needs to reach out to those kinds of people.


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 10:10 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by jam321


Jam, I am a fan of the guy, but that doesn't mean that I can't be critical of him too. You know what job he has now? He is our President now.

That means that I can release my inner critic on him now.

Anyhow, I would argue that it is not the legislation that is the problem but the policy of economics that we are adopting that is going to cause the problems to get worse. I think Obama doesn't deserve all the blame but if Obama is to reverse the potential damage of what the first bailout can do to our economy than he's going to have to do a lot more than a stimulus bill..


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 10:37 PM by jam321
reply to post by Frankidealist35


I would argue that it is not the legislation that is the problem but the policy of economics that we are adopting that is going to cause the problems to get worse.


Let's see. A 600 plus spending bill at the same time they passed a 700 plus billion bailout. Now add in the 900 plus bailout plus the infrastructure bill that will soon be following (price tag undetermined at the moment). Now lets throw in poor bill writing, loopholes galore, no oversight, and basically the same people who got us into this mess.

I think legislation beats the economic policy. IMO, in order to have a sound economic policy you need sound legislation. Legislation that we are seriously lacking.


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 10:44 PM by Doomsday 2029
reply to post by Frankidealist35


Obama once said: "I WON."

Obama won... the campaign trail? You still trust politicians?

Look at his administration... where is the change?



If you wanted change there was a guy named Ron Paul that you could of voted for.


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 10:59 PM by Riviera


you're acting like you have a choice in the matter

yea you're gonna give him time, 4 years.....

his performance right now is unacceptable and not worthy of a JFK, tingle up your leg, Chris Mathews description.

I really do not care one bit, if he is great or average or generic or not good. I really just know he is underachieving right now.

I know why you're mad.



It's the same way you guys are acting, we don't and it's as simple as that. I'm not angry actually, if he fails to adhere to what he said it just gives me more reason to become even more active than I already am. While I do discuss and debate online, I spend a good deal of my time offline being an activist for my own positions.

It's politics and 'Democracy' for whatever that's worth.

I don't pay attention to what the MSM says, I do watch it to keep abreast of what they are saying, but I keep my own reservations, personally I never saw him as a 'Messiah' just saw him as 'Better than Bush'.

FYI - Apologizing to the American people is called being a decent human being, avoiding even the semblance of an apology makes a person look more like a politician. He probably went with the route he knew most people want right now and right now people want apologies and he was apologizing for his pick of Geithner/Daschel and that other lady. He's not keeping to his words of no lobbyists and all that other crap, so I'm protesting as well, if you're doing the same then great, if not...then keep typing to an empty room.
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