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NEWS: Who is behind the antiwar rallies?

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posted on Apr, 13 2004 @ 10:00 AM
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As things develop in the war against terrorism, we keep seeing people rally to anti-war demonstrations all over the world. This is nothing really new, it has been happening for years now.
But who exactly is behind these anti-war efforts? Is there something the promoters of these rallies are not telling the rest of the people that really want peace in the world? To those that anwser the call and prefer to have "peace and no wars"?
 

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An estimated 2,000 to 3,000 people attended the "emergency" action organized by the radical anti-war group International A.N.S.W.E.R. in response to the increased fighting in the Iraqi city of Fallujah.

The International A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition is an umbrella group tied to the World Workers Party, a Marxist organization that supports authoritarian regimes and communist dictatorships.


Are these anti-war demonstrations really for anti-war purposes? or is there another reason for these promoters to sponsor and organize these "anti-war" rallies?

This is what the Muslim scholar declared at the rally:


"Well, we've been watching intifada in Palestine, we've been watching an uprising in Iraq, and the question is that what are we doing? How come we don't have an intifada in this country?
..........
And we know every – They're gonna say some Palestinian being too radical – well, you haven't seen radicalism yet!"


Links to related stories.

Has anti-war movement been hijacked?

Free Republic

Iraqi spies behind anti-war efforts?

European backlash against anti-war movement



[Edited on 13-4-2004 by Muaddib]

[Edited on 13-4-2004 by Nerdling]




posted on Apr, 13 2004 @ 03:02 PM
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Things that never work:

· Communism
· Socialism
· The "Can't we all just get along" attitude

If communism and socialism are such no-brainer solutions, why do they always have to creep in through the back door?



posted on Apr, 13 2004 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Outland
Things that never work:
....
· The "Can't we all just get along" attitude


I agree, however, my philosopy is, "you leave me alone, and i'll leave you alone, then no ones face gets their smashed in."



posted on Apr, 13 2004 @ 06:35 PM
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i dont think it really matters who is behind antiwar demonstrations: its the people who actually march on them who matter.

what is important is that millions of people across europe and america were antiwar for pertinent moral, political and legal reasons.



posted on Apr, 13 2004 @ 06:51 PM
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first of all, these sources are extremely biased, I'm not sure about what they have said...even so, if they are "run by communists" (oh no, everyone run for the hills), who really cares? Obviously the people showing up at rallies aren't showing up to support communism, they are showing up to show their support for peace, and that they are against the war. It's not like anti-war protesters are communist supporters, lol, but I think this is what the article is trying to make them out as...propaganda if you ask me



posted on Apr, 13 2004 @ 08:35 PM
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How dare you publish the truth. That's just not fair.


I've always been aware that most of those attacking Bush or the war are just taking taking advantage of the situation to further their hidden agenda.

Funny how many of the same people are part of the anti-gun (privately owned) crowd, anti-car (privately owned) crowd etc.

I suspect if they ever get all their agenda passed they will quickly become the anti-free speech crowd as well.

[Edited on 13-4-2004 by outsider]



posted on Apr, 13 2004 @ 09:40 PM
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"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." (Norman Thomas, 1936 presidential candidate on the Socialist ticket)

This speech can be found on many sites, but this one is one of them. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to find the speech.

www.zundelsite.org...



posted on Apr, 14 2004 @ 01:58 AM
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First lets dispell the myth that these "protesters" are against war - they're not. If they were, they would have been in the streets during the Bosnian debacle - yet they were silent.

Second lets dispell the myth that the UN is worth anything. In every "peace-keeping" action since 1948 UN involvement has led to more misery. Anyone know that weapons are prohibited in a UN refugee camp - like those in Palestine?

Third lets reconsider "the commies" for this I suggest their own website: www.cpusa.org... Have a good look at the groups this folks suggest you support - pick any subject you please.

As for who organizes the "anti-war" marches? That's easy, The Center for Peace & Justice. They replaced Answer as the darling of The Tides Foundation. Oh, and you'll find them (along with MoveOn.org) in the CPUSA site too.

Who is The Tides Foundation? Look them up at www.tidescenter.org... or try
www.tidesfoundation.org...
Teresa Heinz Kerry is the purse holder of The Tides - the French woman who would be First Lady.

If you'd like a road map, www.frontpagemag.com...
will be an excellent primer on how these groups are funded.

There's a lot of money (from The Tides Foundation, ISO, Ford and others) behind the illusion of "an anti-war" movement.

Check out the sites listed for yourself - its everything money can buy. If you believe you're getting "the truth" then I have a subscription to the New York Times to sell.



posted on Apr, 14 2004 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by bolshevik
i dont think it really matters who is behind antiwar demonstrations: its the people who actually march on them who matter.

what is important is that millions of people across europe and america were antiwar for pertinent moral, political and legal reasons.

While that is true, but (if you didn't know already), I think the point was that these anti-war rallies have a 'hidden meaning' if you want to put it that way. Basically, the commies seem to be running them for their own future purposes.



posted on Apr, 14 2004 @ 12:32 PM
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If they would just say yes to marijuana everyone would get along a lot better and ther would be no war.



posted on Apr, 14 2004 @ 12:48 PM
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Border Guy, I can tell you're going to do fit in nicely here at ATS. You're arguments were presented very intelligently and will likely draw some liberal fire shortly. I, for one, am more informed about this movement. Thanks to you and Muaddib for enlightening us.



posted on Apr, 14 2004 @ 01:19 PM
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Well, in the UK at least the Socialist Workers Party is a big part of the Stop the War Coalition.



posted on Apr, 14 2004 @ 02:36 PM
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Read Antony Sutton. The rich landed gentry love to play capital off against labor. When they are in conflict, each thinks the other is responsible for the NWO. If you have ever noticed, people on the Right think that the NWO will be in the form of a global governance structure through the UN and we'll all be reduced to a communist global state. Those on the Left think the opposite - that the NWO will be the final triumph of capital over labor.

The Real NWO is a world where capital and Labor exist in eternal conflict. That way, they don;t look to the Money Masters and Landed Gentry - the landowners and rent-seekers. Look beyond the left-right mental bondage to see who the real opressors are. The final synthesis is an NWO where everyone is fighting over whether it's fascist or communist. SYNTHESIS



posted on Apr, 14 2004 @ 06:58 PM
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I would rather have none of those two options you are giving. The main point is that a nwo no matter who tries to make it work, won't work. Its like socialism. Truly socialist regimes become dictatorial and opressive and manifest as communism and dictatorships.

I have seen what socialism/communism does first hand, and I am following what is happening in Venezuela, a truly socialist country. Now Chavez says he won't be taken from power by anyone, even if the Venezuelans want him to or if he is forced to. That's what true socialism or communism is, a dictatorship.

What makes us who we are are the differences that exist in the world. But if one group of people actively seek to destroy in one way or another the way of life, and human lives, of others, as in islamist extremists, then nations have a right to defend themselves.

Is the US perfect or the government? no, no government is perfect. If people want change they should work peacefully to try to make it better, but when people start talking about a "revolution" and bringing down the present government it sounds too much like what Fidel Castro and others like him have done. That tyrant calls himself a true "revolutionary" a warrior for the cause.....



posted on Apr, 14 2004 @ 07:04 PM
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Braatz ....you are right my dear friend ...

left right liberal conservative socialist democratic.facist communist .... This is all just a ploy and an incredible invention of the global elite to divide and conqueur



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 01:59 AM
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Let me first say that in my post previously I was simply responding to the question of this topic.

That out of the way, I am encouraged by the comments since.

There are 2 major forces competing for global control of what we refer to as "The New World Order" and neither prospect is anything to be desired.

On one hand are the "Unbridled Capitalists" and on the other the "Unbridled Socialists." One side I coin the "NeoCons" and the other I tag the "UN Gang" Pick your own label as you please.

Both are to be resisted because either leads to the same outcome; tyranny and loss of what little freedom we have remaining.

Perhaps the biggest conflict I see in the world today is that between "Individualism and Personal Responsibility" and "Borg-like Group Think" which passes off ALL responsibility to "the government" (whoever that may be).

Just for the record, since my great (something) grandfather came over here in 1632 I've considered myself a native American and tip the scales on the side of Individualism.

Here's something to chew on: Republic by birth, Union by force.

Looking forward to this thread! Yes Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus (now to get those goofy smilies to work)



posted on Apr, 17 2004 @ 06:01 AM
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I agree with most of what you have said BG, except for the part about 2 major forces competing for global control. Its an interesting theory, and one that i will look into (suggestions?) but i tend to believe that they are two hands of the same body.
Its more like WOTS stated-
"left right liberal conservative socialist democratic.facist communist .... This is all just a ploy and an incredible invention of the global elite to divide and conqueur"



posted on Apr, 17 2004 @ 11:32 AM
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Perhaps it is true about both being the limbs of one.

I am not sure however that all who wish to bring about the NWO are of the same mind as to the structure of the final product.

There appears to be one hand which seeks a socialist NWO in which the UN is the supreme government; and another hand seeking a ultra corporate state in which the elite rule through materialism and raw capitalism.

This seems illustrated in the contrast between both Bush and Kerry. Kerry being the UN/socialist ultra-elitist while Bush the darling of Global Corpratists.



posted on Apr, 27 2004 @ 12:49 AM
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On a related note, the recent "March for Women's Lives" was put together by NOW who is very cozy with socialist and communist drek.

This brings to mind that since the Nazis were socialists, was this march comprised of the infamous "Feminazis"?

I'm sure that if Bush was against the Easter Bunny, you'd have socialist and communist groups suddenly endorsing religion just to protest something else against Bush.

Among the listed sponsers of the march:
·Communist Party USA
·Democratic Socialists of America
·International League of Religious Socialists (there's an oxymoron)
·International Socialist Organization
·Iowa Socialist Party
·Socialist Alternative
·Socialists Workers Party
·Young Democratic Socialists
·Young Socialists
·COALITION OF LABOR UNION WOMEN
·kclabor.org
·New York City Labor Against the War (NYCLAW)
·US Women & Cuba Collaboration
·Westchester Progressive Forum
....and way more.
See Socialist & Commie's March for Women's Lives
·


Q

posted on Apr, 27 2004 @ 02:06 AM
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Excellent thread!


Too many liberals do not realize they're being made tools by forces far more insidious than those they think they're railing against.

The best pawns you can move are those belonging to your opponent.

I fear their realization of this will come only too late, and I pray it does not.

[Edited on 27-4-2004 by Q]



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