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The Dulce Base: Fact or Fiction? public forum on March 29, 2009

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posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:28 AM
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Hello, my name is Norio Hayakawa.
This is to invite the readers of ATS to come and participate in the first-time ever Public Forum on the alleged "Dulce base" which will be held in Dulce, New Mexico on March 29.
The History Channel came to Dulce last week and did a series of interviews. I am glad that they will be producing a one-hour special UFO Hunters program on the Dulce controversy. I believe it will air sometime in the summer.
In the meantime, the Dulce conference and public forum is receiving some notice from some news media. The Journal-Santa Fe did a big front-page write up on the Dulce conference.
Here is the PRESS RELEASE on the Dulce base conference/public forum:

THE DULCE BASE: FACT OR FICTION? Conference to be held in Dulce, New Mexico on March 29, 2009

RIO RANCHO, NEW MEXICO - Norio Hayakawa is a resident of Rio Rancho who believes that wild rumors may not always bring a bad name to a community or hurt it. Sometimes they bring curiosity seekers, and even tourism may flourish. Take, for example, the city of Roswell. "Roswell has raked in quite a lot of tourist dollars all these years, despite the lack of any tangible, solid, irrefutable evidence that an extraterrestrial spacecraft crashed in the desert outside of the city in July of 1947," Hayakawa noted.

And when it comes to the subject of UFOs, Hayakawa believes that there is a much more interesting area in New Mexico than Roswell.

According to Hayakawa, Dulce, New Mexico, a sleepy little town of less than 4000 (inhabited by the Jicarilla Apache nation), has attracted quite a number of UFO and conspiracy buffs ever since rumors surfaced in the mid-80s that a U.S./alien joint biological laboratory and base exists a mile under the town's Archuleta Mesa. "This rumor has become so well known among UFO buffs around the world that anyone doing a Yahoo or Google search on Dulce, New Mexico would find the bulk of over 300,000 search results related to the alleged underground base," Hayakawa said.

Skeptical of such claims, Hayakawa, a retired funeral director, visited the town of Dulce in 1990 with the crew of a Japanese television program to attempt to document the existence of such an alien base.
Although he was unsuccessful in locating it, Hayakawa claims that he and the television crew were inexplicably detained by the police chief while interviewing the citizens on the street about UFOs and cattle mutilations.

Now, almost 19 years later, Hayakawa and a few UFO enthusiasts from New Mexico, California and Arizona, would like to clear these unfounded rumors. They are planning to have a one-day public conference in the town of Dulce next March.
It will be appropriately titled: "The Dulce Base: Fact or Fiction?"

Hayakawa likes to separate fact from fiction.
"There has not been any physical evidence whatsoever that there is such a base in or near Dulce," Hayakawa asserted. "However, when it comes to UFOs, many of the residents there are believers, since beginning around the mid-1970s and lasting till the mid-1980s, the entire town of Dulce was buzzed by frequent sightings of strange lights in the sky." This is fact, according to Hayakawa.

Another fact is that many ranchers in the nearby communities began to report mysterious cattle mutilations and frequent sightings of military helicopters during that time.
Some Dulce officials, concerned about these incidents, attended the first Cattle Mutilations conference in Albuquerque in 1979, including Raleigh Tafoya, who was the chief at the time. This also is fact, not fiction.

Hayakawa believes that there could be prosaic explanations to both the UFO sightings and cattle mutilations, although he still doesn't have the answers.

It was during the mid-80s that wild stories of an underground alien base surfaced - and still continue to this day - so much so that the entire town of Dulce has almost become synonymous with the alleged alien underground bio-lab. The fact that Dulce is located only 100 miles northwest of Los Alamos provided additional fuel for the conspiracy buffs. According to Hayakawa, Los Alamos is the leading-edge research laboratory on human genome/DNA research in the U.S.

But again, Hayakawa likes to remain skeptical when it comes to "underground bases."

Although throughout the years the residents of Dulce seem to have taken all these strange rumors about their community with a grain of salt, Hayakawa says that he would like to restore some sense of normalcy to Dulce.
This is the reason why he will host Dulce's first public conference on the topic.
Hayakawa is intent on dispelling rumors, once and for all, that there are such bases in or near Dulce.

Will the townsfolk of Dulce speak up at the conference? Will there be some new revelations about Dulce?
"It will be fascinating," said Hayakawa.

One of the speakers at the conference will be Greg Bishop, author of a book entitled PROJECT BETA. Bishop has thoroughly investigated the claims of an Albuquerque scientist by the name of Paul Bennewitz who was one of the initial sources behind the rumors of underground bases at Dulce and other U.S. locations.
The one-day conference, open to the public, will be held on Sunday, March 29, 2009 at the Best Western Jicarilla Inn in Dulce. The entire bar/lounge area is reserved specifically for this event. It will start at 10 a.m. and will conclude at 3 p.m. Admission to the conference is $5 at the door.
There will be some surprise guest speakers as well as many surprise guests in attendance.
A large portion of the "conference" will be an Open Public Forum during which the public will be given a chance to express their thoughts and will be given an opportunity to speak out.
There will also be a special live music entertainment.
Hayakawa can be contacted at noriohayakawa@rocketmail.com

The article on the conference can also be found at:

An unusual conference in Dulce, New Mexico
www.ufodigest.com...

Information about the conference can also be found at www.myspace.com...

P.S.
Besides Greg Bishop, Dr. Michael E. Salla will also be speaking. Dennis Balthaser from Roswell will also speak. There will be a couple of former Dulce police officers who will be speaking, along with many local residents of Dulce who will give their testimonies.




posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 12:12 PM
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Dulce Base is a very interesting topic indeed! I have heard and read some pretty crazy stories about the area. I have a friend named Josh who lives in Dulce. Some of the stories he tells me are pretty wild some of the best info you can get comes from the Jicarillo tribe. I would love to get him on here to share some of the experiences he and his family have had of course I would expect most on ATS to be skeptical as he has no substancial proof.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 03:09 PM
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It is pretty trivial these days to detect undeground facilities. Just pay for a gravity survey.

Next up of course is how do people get to the base. Generally you have some infrastructure with too many cars for what is visible.

The key here us physical proof, or lack thereof.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Wethesheeple
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Dulce Base is a very interesting topic indeed! I have heard and read some pretty crazy stories about the area. I have a friend named Josh who lives in Dulce. Some of the stories he tells me are pretty wild some of the best info you can get comes from the Jicarillo tribe. I would love to get him on here to share some of the experiences he and his family have had of course I would expect most on ATS to be skeptical as he has no substancial proof.


Thanks, Wethesheeple.
Yes, Dulce is indeed an interesting topic. Unlike Area 51 in Nevada, we're talking about something that has no tangible, physical, irrefutable proof as far as the so-called Dulce base is concerned.
Yet, Dulce is a fascinating place in more ways than one. It is irrefutable that in the 70s and 80s frequent sightings of UFOs took place, along with cattle mutilations in that area.
When it comes to the base, however, that's a different story.
It's all speculation.
I was in Dulce twice last week and also got to know more persons there than before. I am excited that a former assistant police chief will speak at the conference in March. Also, a former Dulce police officer who worked under former Police Chief, Raleigh Tafoya, will also speak at the conference.
I love Dulce.....it is located in a very beautiful environment.....the population of Dulce probably is less than 2800, yet there are many new, modern-looking school buildings, medical emergency centers and many other interesting buildings. (Of course, when I visited the school buildings, I hardly saw any students there....and it was on a weekday, too!).
But what I like about Dulce most is the people...the Jicarilla Apache Nation. I think that they have a beautiful philosophy......I personally think that Dulce will be a significant place in the near future.......culturally as well as spiritually.......



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