Obama: 'I screwed up' on Daschle appointment, page 3
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reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 09:38 AM by Benevolent Heretic
slayer, you asked some good questions. Ones I've asked, myself.

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
Why did Obama claim to totally, 100% back Daschle even after the allegations came out?


He shouldn't have. He should have asked Daschle (and Geithner) to step down, IMO. I can only say he probably didn't think the infraction was "that bad". But he's wrong. He set himself up to be the transparency and integrity president and now he's going to have to live up to it or face serious criticism.


Why did he push through the nomination of Geithner?


I think Obama thinks that Geithner is the best person for the job. I'm not so sure.


Is he really sorry that he made a mistake when only 24 hours ago, he was denying that anything was untowards?


I suspect he's really sorry. Sorry that the vetting process was apparently insufficient to catch these issues and that he set such high standards that he's now going to have to live up to. I don't think he knew about Daschle's problems before the appointment, but once he found out about them, he should have taken action instead of 100% supporting the appointment.

Then again, if he asked Daschle to step down, he's accused of "throwing him under the bus". He really can't win here.

I do think he's learning a valuable lesson about how suspicious and diligent the American people are these days. He's living in the post-Bush era. People are WATCHING. Because we don't want to be fooled again. Your know what they say... Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.

Just my thoughts.


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 10:13 AM by 44soulslayer
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



Those are all possibilities of course, but we will never know the truth/ correct answer.

I think more than anything this episode shows how absurd and convoluted the tax laws are. There should just be a low, flat tax.

Even the despised "elite" would start paying taxes if its a low rate like 20%... its a small price to pay to have a legitimized capital base as opposed to an offshore one. They only squirrel it away offshore because of the ridiculously high tax rates on the top bracket 35% in the US and 45% in the UK I believe?


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 10:48 AM by sos37
Originally posted by loam
reply to
post by Mynaeris



I remain baffled why so many did not see any of this as foreseeable.



Don't get me wrong. I'm not gloating. In fact, I'm horrified at the apparent tail spin we seem to be in.

I just wish we had done better...


Some of us foresaw disasters like these. We knew it was just a matter of time. But do you realize that the hypocracy remains?

Obama says he's sorry about the situation, admits he screwed up, yet NO action has been taken to do anything about Geithner yet. To me, that makes his apology null and void. Until he removed Geithner, that apology is about as real as crocodile tears.

And as for gloating? Screw the high road - I'm gloating! Ever since this tax disaster started happening I've had the biggest eat-**** grin on my face. And just think - just under 4 years left of this kind of political disaster waiting to happen.

So, Obama supporters, now you know how it feels when fate gives you the middle finger. I guess that shine from the inauguration has worn off by now. You're all getting exactly what you deserve for buying into the media propaganda, hook, line and sinker. Bet you guys are thinking Ron Paul might not have been so bad after all now.

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reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 10:58 AM by seagull
reply to post by Xtrozero



At the moment, that's what I'm seeing as well. 'course that job is enough to make anyone a little timid right out of the block. Every job has a break in period...this one's a bit shorter than most, however. He needs to step it up, or the rabid supporters are going to turn on him. Still and all, I still think he's going to be ok, but his start is certainly shakey.

We'll see...


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 11:33 AM by centurion1211
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



It is clearly due to the fact that "H & R Barack" has even less experience than Palin - who so many of you denigrated so often.

He's out of his league and it's showing up quickly - even with all the clintonistas brought in to help him.

And if what is being discussed in this thread:

thread

starts to gain momentum, obama is toast.


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reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 11:45 AM by seagull
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



He's only been in office for not even three weeks...it's much too early to start the nay saying. I'm not impressed so far...but that break in time hasn't quite run out yet. Any one stepping into the White House, no matter the circumstance has got to have the "deer in the headlights" thing going on. If they don't, I'd worry for their sanity...


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 11:54 AM by centurion1211
Originally posted by seagull
reply to
post by Benevolent Heretic



He's only been in office for not even three weeks...it's much too early to start the nay saying.


Sorry, but they jumped on Bush after the 2000 election before he took office, and there seems to be even more to be concerned about with Obama.

Face it, obama's 'honeymoon' is already over - no matter how much some would wish that not to be true. Has anyone noticed that even his hollywood backers seem to have disappeared?


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 12:04 PM by LLoyd45
Originally posted by seagull
reply to
post by Benevolent Heretic



He's only been in office for not even three weeks...it's much too early to start the nay saying. I'm not impressed so far...but that break in time hasn't quite run out yet. Any one stepping into the White House, no matter the circumstance has got to have the "deer in the headlights" thing going on. If they don't, I'd worry for their sanity...

I agree. He's only been in office a short two weeks, but now isn't the time to become a deer caught in the headlights. Our economy is tanking, millions are unemployed or under-employed, we have a war in the Middle East that continues to escalate daily, and the national debt is at it's highest level in the history of the country with no end in sight.

It's not like he was completely unaware of these matters either. He was a US Senator, and had access to more information than the majority of us here on the ATS forum. Somehow we were aware of the seriousness of the situation our country was facing, why wasn't Obama? Now isn't the time for him to make excuses or rest on his laurels. He promised us REAL change, so where is it?


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reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 12:19 PM by seagull
reply to post by LLoyd45



It's easy to say that there's no time for a "deer in the headlights", quite another to be in his shoes. Though I agree with you in most respects. His grace period is shrinking fast.



reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 02:16 PM by centurion1211
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



I don't care who you are, that's funny, too!

2nd verse same as the first ...



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reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 02:16 PM by The Bald Champion
Originally posted by sos37
Originally posted by loam
reply to
post by Mynaeris



I remain baffled why so many did not see any of this as foreseeable.



Don't get me wrong. I'm not gloating. In fact, I'm horrified at the apparent tail spin we seem to be in.

I just wish we had done better...


Some of us foresaw disasters like these. We knew it was just a matter of time. But do you realize that the hypocracy remains?

[edit on 4-2-2009 by sos37]





DQ - this is a disaster?

Your homeboy left the biggest disaster to date... Provide you were on the bucket brigade
, it was kind of hard to take your judgment seriously.

So what did you predict, seriously???

The hypocracy remains in you... PAB


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 02:21 PM by jam321
reply to post by Uniceft17



Atleast we have a president now who can admit to having a mistake


It is a good thing. However, if you look at the time that the news came out about Daschle's tax problem and the time he withdrew, one has to wonder if Obama was sincere about admitting his mistake or did he do it because he got burnt by the fire.

IMO, if Daschle had not withdrawn and got confirmed, we would have never heard Obama say it was a mistake.
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