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We are the toughest most resourceful and smartest on the planet. Sure the old world bankers and elite have dumbed a lot of Americans down by manipulating us and our system, but those fabulous genes are still here.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Kryties
I actually believe that this what the WTO wants to collapse, destroy and anhilate the Nation of the US and its citizens.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to post by Kryties
Not nearly as duped as your people. We dont limit web sites, we did not give up our guns and we refuse to bend anymore.
We sneezed and you caught the flu. Dont let it turn into pneumonia.
Say goodbye mate! We can be self sufficient and dont need the rest of the world.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Kryties
The downfall of the American nation is imminent, but is one problem if the America nation goes down so the global economy will too.
Originally posted by stumason
Truly our ancestors where right when they kicked you lot out!
Originally posted by marg6043
sorry to burst your bubble
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Kryties
You seem to be too over confidence, sorry to burst your bubble but the rest of the world is not doing so peachy since the US economy is going down the hill
And that is a fact.
Instead of simply putting “buy American” on any steel procurements, we should put it on everything. Let private business do what it wants, but the United States government should first and foremost employ U.S. workers and U.S. firms. NASA didn’t hire out Russian scientists during the Space Race – and those foreign scientists who did come mostly went on to become citizens. Why would the government allow any foreign competition in its largest and most sweeping infrastructure plan?
By blocking foreign-made goods and foreign workers we would guarantee that all of the money stays here. If the stimulus package ends up paying for itself then it will be a net success, regardless of its overhead cost. It cannot hope to pay for itself if millions of dollars are spent overseas on steel from India or European concrete. The whole point of the stimulus is to stimulate the American economy, not the economies of everyone else.
Originally posted by pieman
name 1 wholly american owned company of any worth.
internationally traded shares mean that there isn't any. multinationalism means that there isn't any.
By blocking foreign-made goods and foreign workers we would guarantee that all of the money stays here.
Originally posted by jmilla
America does not need to depend on foreign oil or debt.
That is what has to change.
The fact that we do is what is making this debate continue. So many non-Americans feel that is the way America has to be to survive.
There are plenty of resources here, oil and other. If we collapse the system and cut ourselves off, yes the America you all have learned to love and hate for our greedy consumerism, will fall.
But from the ashes we will rebuild and real innovation will be the result of it.
I say no bailouts or stimulus packages should be passed. Cut us off for all I care. Collapse the dollar. It will then be a few hard years of rebuilding, but by that point the old government will be ousted, and the old (or new) based off the constitution will bring America back to its former status.
[edit on 4-2-2009 by jmilla]
Originally posted by johnsky
Originally posted by pieman
name 1 wholly american owned company of any worth.
internationally traded shares mean that there isn't any. multinationalism means that there isn't any.
I agree with you, and I was waiting for someone to post to that effect.
The world isn't a series of companies contained within nations any more. Companies are international now, not national.
It's just good business practice to have your company worldwide. For manufacturers, it allows greater access to materials and clients.
For everyone else, it does essentially the same.
No self respecting company is going to restrict themselves to within the borders of one nation. (Unless they're a small home built company that hasn't grown enough to leave the country. Even then, your suppliers are likely international, otherwise your supplies are way too expensive for your business to survive.)
Basically, if you cut off nations from trade with other nations, you're also cutting companies into parts.
If they can't trade with other countries... there goes their supply chain.
What your asking international companies to do is either pick up everything and move solely into the US, and trade only with the US...
... or have the rest of the world to trade with, without the US.
(What do you think they're going to chose? The US? Or the world?)
So basically, you'd be slicing up some of the largest companies in the US... who would rather abandon the US than lose their international advantage, which would basically plummet your nation into a full out depression.
It's called a global economy for a reason. Separating from it is suicide.
And there really is no way to spend your countries money on only your country if it's going into the economy.
We're all linked together.
Like an organ within a body...
You can't function long without us, and we really don't like having bits removed from us.
[edit on 4-2-2009 by johnsky]
Originally posted by pieman
Originally posted by marg6043
sorry to burst your bubble
the problem is you guys created the bubble in the first place.
if ordinary americans want to buy american, go right ahead, if you can afford to pay that much, feel free to do so.
america can't cope with a free market!!!! you guys are nuts
Originally posted by Kryties
I hope to god those 'fabulous genes' are eradicated rather quickly from the global genepool.