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Corn Ethanol is no better than Gas

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posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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Corn Ethanol is no better than Gas


www.startribune.com

1.) Scientists and economists looked at life-cycle emissions of growing, harvesting, producing and burning different fuels, and concluded that ethanol made from switchgrass and other plant materials is far better than either corn ethanol or gasoline.
2.) The fine particles, similar to soot, are produced from the earliest stages by the farm equipment used to plant, fertilize and harvest the corn, or the drills and pumps used to extract and transport crude oil to refineries.
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posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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So now that we have a new President of the United States we are going to start hearing about ways to reduce our energy independence. The more scientific data that is coming out of these new "break-through" energy resolutions the more we begin to see the dirty lobbyists manipulating the scientific information.

If there is anything that this article teaches you it is that politicians are easily manipulated by a hefty sum of $$$ cha ching cha ching! Science is being ignored because some senators and congressman like getting paid behind the scenes

Sounding like a broken record ....these guys just dont get it

www.startribune.com
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posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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Ethanol added to gasoline drops your MPG.Ethanol evaporates at an extremely fast rate.10% ethanol relates to one gallon out of ten.which will evaporate out of a vented tank and leave you paying fof ten gallons and using nine.



posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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Yup, that right. Last year I was seriously into ethanol as I beleived it was a really good alternative to gas. Now after lots of my own research and others as well, I have come to the conclusion that it is not the fuel of the future.
Good post, S&F for you.



posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 11:58 AM
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Lesson # 1. Don't burn your food supply for fuel.
Lesson #2. Harvest your food supply(corn) and store it in a manner where it s protected and will remain edible. (canned, ground into corn meal, Used to make sour mash whiskey.)
Lesson #3; I don't like the govenment. But start a manhattan type program that will explore and develope each source to serve the part of the countyr that will be best suited to that part of the country.
Lesson #4. Tell Ted Kennedy to get over it. there is going to be a wind farm in the bay at Hyannis Port. The Kennedys alwsays favor althernative energy progrmas, until they turn up in their back yard. Where is the Kennedy Democrat who is always concerned with the common people?



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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Well here in Minnesota our water table is turning into slug because of these nasty ethanol plants popping up all around these massive country farms. I mean these places look so damn large you would think its a city driving up on it. The U of M (MN) came out with an article in Science Journal about how they discovered prairie grasses and most ditches alone roads that grow vegetation are great sources for cellulose ethanol.....This technology is not, like the media claims, 5 -10 years away. The University of Minnesota is at the forefront of this technology and so is the University of Arizona. Arizona is more focusing on Algae beds and how they can be used to offset CO2 emissions from Coal fired plants....then using that Algae after its colonies double in size for Oil. Algae is looking pretty promising...........



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 11:05 AM
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Yup, thats a fact..ethanol drops your MPG..thier not enough energy per volume in ethanol as thei is in toluene, major component of gas.. Ethanol can be made form alsmot anything, Hemp, wheat ive heard, otehr various plants and vegetables... just corn is the major key, becuae theirs so much of it,a ndits easier to grow in quantity.
Other downside to corn ethonal is, its very corrosive... thats is why yuo only see 10% by volume at the pumps...i once read, anyting over 14% would be catastrophic corrosive to a car, aka it would eat up/through the aluminum/steel gas tanke, lines, inside of engine, jsut as if yuo had poured sulpheric acid in the tank,,,everything would be skrewed.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 11:08 AM
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David Blume: Alcohol can be Gas

I have watched the first part... this is a very informative video.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 11:10 AM
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Corn is for eating and alcohol is for drinking.

Using large areas of land to grow corn for fuel seems criminal when there are people in some parts of the world that are starving and would relish a nice ear of corn, cornbread, corn chips, corn chowder, cornflakes, etc.

I'm with Al, there must be some alternative to using food for fuel.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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It's all pure politics.

The electorate's average literacy level is somewhere around the 7th-grade, so when it comes to technical issues involving things like 'energy efficiency' they don't have a clue. They listen to what their minister says in church on sunday, or to what they read in the paper or see on TV.

Spending all the money to grow the corn, harvest the corn, transport the corn, ferment the corn, distill the fermented corn into alcohol - all these steps make ethenol a terribly inefficient automotive fuel.

But it makes the farmers happy. It makes the oil companies happy ( because it's really no cheaper or more efficient or even any 'greener' than petrol ), so the politicians push it and the media sells it and we're no better off than we were before ...

That's why they call the status quo the status quo ...



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Alferd Packer

If there is anything that this article teaches you it is that politicians are easily manipulated by a hefty sum of $$$ cha ching cha ching! Science is being ignored because some senators and congressman like getting paid behind the scenes



Hell - everybody knows that. Congressmen are in the business of selling the vote. The $180,000 each senator is paid every year is chump change compared to what they get from big business. That's why congress supports the iraq holocaust - the war profiteers pay them. Same w the War on Drugs - the prison industry pays them. Same w our open borders policy - illegal-alien profiteers like walmart pay them.



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