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posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 09:36 PM
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Israel Aiding Islamist Groups


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BIZARRE ALLEGATIONS

Remarkably, the arrestees in question -Imad al-Rimi, 23, Ali al-Mahfal, 24, and Bassam al-Haidari (a.k.a. Abu al-Ghaith), 26- are being accused by Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh of working for “an Islamist terrorist cell with links to Israeli intelligence, [which] ha[s] been dismantled”[3]. On January 10, a Yemeni court heard that al-Haidari communicated with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert via email, offering to collaborate with the Israeli authorities prior to the US Embassy attack. The intercepted emails allegedly show that al-Haidari wrote to Olmert “[w]e are the Organisation of Islamic Jihad and you are Jews, but you are honest, and we are ready to do anything”[3]. Prosecutors for the Yemeni government claim that Olmert (or, more likely, someone from the Israeli intelligence services who was forwarded al-Haidari’s message) actually wrote back telling al-Haidari “[w]e are ready to support you [...] as an agent”
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posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 09:36 PM
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This clearly demonstrates how elements within isreal are intentionaly funding their "enemies" in order to create warfare against their own state.

The reasons for this of course are that these elements desire conflict from islam against the state of isreal,this is why they have been funding hamas since the 1970's.

Of course the main stream news will never let you know this,that most of the modern conflicts we see as mistaks have infact been designed, fueled by propaganda campaings to stoke the tensions and lies,and to mask the deciet.

depopulation extravaganza.

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posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 09:43 PM
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The allegations may seem bizarre, to say the least. However, if true, they will not signify the first time that Israeli intelligence agencies have actively supported militant Islamist groups in the Middle East.

Professor Anthony H. Cordesman [4], who currently holds the Arleigh A. Burke Chair in Strategy at the Washington, DC-based Center for Strategic & International Studies, has near-conclusively demonstrated Israel’s systematic financial and monetary aid to Hamas, which began in the late 1970s.
According to internal documents published several years ago by the Israel-based Institute for Counter Terrorism [5], in 1978 Israeli authorities allowed Hamas co-founder Sheikh Ahmed Ismail Yassin to establish the group under the early name “Islamic Center” in Israel

A few years later, during the Iran-Contra Scandal (1985-1986), Israel acted as Washington’s conduit in supplying US-made weapons to Iran and then channeling the profits to the Contras paramilitary mercenaries fighting Nicaragua’s Sandinista government.
Israel did so in full knowledge of the fact that the Iranian government was at that time Hamas’ primary military supplier.


so the reason and excuse for isreals agression against palestine,hamas's a gression, is seen to be of isreals own design,they are funding hamas,they are fueling them and thus those isreali elements are responsible for the civilian casualties seen in isreal.

do you see how our wars are designed,how its all a big lie made to appear natural?.

as ive said before hamas are the pawns of isreal and exist to discredit the palestinian people and fuel the religious conflict which some hope will tear the world apart.

the truth is a 100000 times worse than this, we live in a lie.



posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 08:01 AM
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Very interesting. It's common knowledge that Israel funded Hamas as an opposition to Fatah, but if the Yemen government really do have email evidence of the Israeli government offering to support an Islamic terrorist organisation then that's a major smoking gun. How many more 'agents' might they have?

I'm very surprised this hasn't had more attention.

Here's more info from the Yemen Times:

Yemenis tried on charges of spying for Israel



posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by Nammu
Very interesting. It's common knowledge that Israel funded Hamas as an opposition to Fatah, but if the Yemen government really do have email evidence of the Israeli government offering to support an Islamic terrorist organisation then that's a major smoking gun. How many more 'agents' might they have?

I'm very surprised this hasn't had more attention.

Here's more info from the Yemen Times:

Yemenis tried on charges of spying for Israel


and guess what fatah is funded by the usa an eu!
www.guardian.co.uk...

so we have the isrealis funding hamas(the bad guys), and the usa an eu funding fatah(the sometimes bad guys)!?

what does this tell you?,its clearly a designed war,foriegn "powers" intentionaly fueling the conflict,i believe to bring about a end times esk conflict between islam and zion/the west.

it should get more attention but it wont,the truth never does,only the lie that these wars are all natural,when infact their designed by foriegn powers.



posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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the oldest trick in the book... Ford, GM and IBM funded the Nazi machine as well as ours.

No one is ignorant enough to know they are not being used.

Pawns know they are pawns and kings know they're kings. At this point just ask yourself how long has it been since they sold their souls to the devil? how long has it been since yours was sold without your permission?

All this is the same old, old trick in the book. How do you control the masses? by fear, by making sure that a big gov't is needed in order to maintain your restricted freedoms.

Funding groups like Hamas, like Al-Qaeda, Iraq, Iran, Fatah.

What we are doing right now as civilians in a restricted world is living out the chapters in a story written long before we were born, but like all historical stories, the ending is still not written.



posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 02:15 PM
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what was the saying those without SIN cast the first stone?
everyone seems to be full of BS these days and try to take a high moral ground when they havent got any to start off with

Israel kill 1000+ civilians due to terrorist threat to them

and they arm and train others in the process,

same goes for US,Iran,UK and so on



posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 03:29 PM
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those who scream and shout "terrorists are the biggest threat to our nation" are usually the ones who funded and/or formed that threat themselves.
they themselves intentionly made that threat....in my eyes part of the depopulation agenda.

the taliban were made by the pakistani intelligence services(who in turn are propped up by the cia),
al qaeda by the cia,
saddam hussian/iraq installed by the usa,
i.r.a... funded by the usa
iran...armed by the usa and isreal...contra affair and so on
hamas -isreal
fatah...usa eu
the algerian terror campaign was created and funded by the algerian military,

thats just a few off the top of my head there are countless more examples,if you look at it most of the terror threats were manufactured to order by those crying wolf.....
......remember Wernher von Brauns warning

"there will be rogue states,then terrorism,comets and then aliens"
in the 1970's he knew what was coming and it was all a lie,made to depopulate humanity.

all these wars made to kill humans,one big lie the great deception,



posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 03:37 PM
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You are kidding, right? So they wrote to Olmert - aka prime minister? They sent e-mails to Olmert. Right. And of course they have his e-mail. Right. And of course he answered them. Openly. Over e-mail. Prime minister of Israel. On buisness that should be dealt with by some secret forces dude. Right.
And the weird thing is - that you bilieve it.
Boy, o boy.



posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
You are kidding, right? So they wrote to Olmert - aka prime minister? They sent e-mails to Olmert. Right. And of course they have his e-mail. Right. And of course he answered them. Openly. Over e-mail. Prime minister of Israel. On buisness that should be dealt with by some secret forces dude. Right.
And the weird thing is - that you bilieve it.
Boy, o boy.


read it properly,theres an obvious part you missed(or left out) ....boy o boy


Prosecutors for the Yemeni government claim that Olmert (or, more likely, someone from the Israeli intelligence services who was forwarded al-Haidari’s message) actually wrote back telling al-Haidari “[w]e are ready to support you [...] as an agent"


olmert was never involved,it was forwarded elsewhere.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by FoxStriker
the oldest trick in the book... Ford, GM and IBM funded the Nazi machine as well as ours.

No one is ignorant enough to know they are not being used.

Pawns know they are pawns and kings know they're kings. At this point just ask yourself how long has it been since they sold their souls to the devil? how long has it been since yours was sold without your permission?

All this is the same old, old trick in the book. How do you control the masses? by fear, by making sure that a big gov't is needed in order to maintain your restricted freedoms.

Funding groups like Hamas, like Al-Qaeda, Iraq, Iran, Fatah.

What we are doing right now as civilians in a restricted world is living out the chapters in a story written long before we were born, but like all historical stories, the ending is still not written.


your quote is perfectly put across....
I could'nt agree with you more......
It's the final chapter,the unwritten supposed ending!....
If there is an ending that is?, were all taught that is a beginning, a middle & an end!

and it's that theory that collaberates all sorts of propaganda....
Maybe the ending is just infinative "the great unknown"....
It could be a good thing we are to be enlightened with....



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 10:50 PM
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with the advent if time travel you can write the book as you please, and by god take a sneak peek at the ending our emma.

care to give me a hint hmmmm?



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
You are kidding, right? So they wrote to Olmert - aka prime minister? They sent e-mails to Olmert. Right. And of course they have his e-mail. Right. And of course he answered them. Openly. Over e-mail. Prime minister of Israel. On buisness that should be dealt with by some secret forces dude. Right.
And the weird thing is - that you bilieve it.
Boy, o boy.



you don't like that do you



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 02:30 PM
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interesting..

allready knew israel funded hamas while eradicating Hamas,

but this...


Setting up 2 parties against each other. Giving them both money, calling them both Terrorists.

Israel / America smells to Arragonce as they consider themselves so smart....

2 Parties full of ignorance to what is happening, just a little bit of money and now we can call them terrorists and invade them...



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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welivefortheson


read it properly,theres an obvious part you missed(or left out) ....boy o boy

Well , i missed it (or left out....,evil me) , was too shocked by the start to read the all. Still, i maintain that in this age it would be totally stupid for intelligence survice to use un-encrypted e-mails ,especially answering e-mail sent to Israel. How e-mails from Yemen to Israel are sent daily, do you think? One or whole two? And i know that at least e-mails from Israel to Iran are being scanned , this is how Israeli officer was caught suggesting to spy for Iran via e-mail.

Reignite


you don't like that do you


- No actually i think that your
is very nice. Keep the good work.



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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By funding two different groups of Palestinians, they are able to prevent one strong political power from forming, and having greater strength and purpose in negotiating for peace. They are simply limiting power by causing two factions to fight among themselves. Israel has been doing this for ages. They have even supplied arms to Hamas.

This way they have two weak enemies that they can play off each other, and by arming them, they have a "terrorist" threat that can be used as an excuse for committing war crimes.

Israel is well known for dirty tricks and False flag operations.
The Mossad is involved in a Massive London Stock Exchange fraud, very similar to the Madoff Ponzi scheme.

The Spanish police announced Wednesday that they had arrested six people suspected of a £420 million fraud in a public company traded on the AIM exchange in London. No names were released, but the newspaper El Pais reported that among those arrested is a former Mossad agent, Avraham Hochman, whom the newspaper described as the one of the "brains" behind the fraud.

Everyone knows there is no such thing as a "Former" Mossad agent. If you do a bit of quick research on Avraham Hochman, you will find that he has been involved in a number of shady deals and false flag ops for Israel.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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It's naive to think that any country or group is purely inimical to a declared enemy. I know personally Iranians who have dealt with Israel businesses and even on a government level even at the height of the two countries animosity.

When millions of people, thousands of business deals, and governments with multiple factions are involved - nothing is Black and White.

The US has an ongoing back channel with Iran, often through intermediaries, on many things. We saw Iran backing off supporting Shiite insurgencies in Iraq last year, as an unofficial agreement between the two countries.

As anything and everything possible is laid at the feet of Israel and Mossad, one has to wonder if any reports are solid.

I guarantee after the next major event in the Middle East occurs, someone somewhere will dig up something showing the Usual Suspects were behind it.

Muslims and Muslim countries get a free pass from conspiracists. It is ALWAYS ALWAYS the US and Israel behind what ever happens in the region.


Mike F



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 01:16 PM
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Israel fund terrorist groups to keep their propoganda machine running



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by welivefortheson


read it properly,theres an obvious part you missed(or left out) ....boy o boy


Prosecutors for the Yemeni government claim that Olmert (or, more likely, someone from the Israeli intelligence services who was forwarded al-Haidari’s message) actually wrote back telling al-Haidari “[w]e are ready to support you [...] as an agent"


olmert was never involved,it was forwarded elsewhere.


Seriously, do you really believe that ANY official with the Israeli Gov't would send an unsecured email to a terrorist organization? C'mon people, THINK.

I'm open to any reasonable possibility but to suggest that this kind of communication would handled as described is beyond ludicrous.



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