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The current civilizations compared to the past civilizations

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posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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what was once above water is now below water and what was once underwater is now above water

Videography videographer documentary New Mexico Lightningwood Pictures

THE TEMPLE OF MU is a documentary about the parallels of ancient sunken civilizations off the coast of Okinawa and great Peruvian ruins.


Underwater pre-historic civilization in the Pacific
The Official Graham Hancock Website: Gallery

Mu
Mu Continent



Mu Continent space
There was a large continent called the Mu on the Pacific Ocean 12 thousand years ago. There, there are various human races, but there is no discrimination and they had one religion under the Emperor Ra Mu, the highest oracle. People had the highest culture, and excel at building and Navigation, and they extended the colony at each area. He blessed the nature and the foods in this continent. However, it is said that the earth sounded one day, the land broke into pieces and the lava flew out, and the country sank under the sea. at one night. As stated above, it is a legend of the Mu continent written by James Churchward, but at present, it is known that there was such a continent on the earth in the past or at present from the geology, but such a legend exists at each area in Ryukyu Islands


Lemuria was along the Superswell, an area of the Pacific ocean which can easily be raised above seal level with a small drop in sea level or with a few earthquakes or volcanic eruptions. The Superswell begins right below calfornia, goes to hawaii, and then goes down to Easter island, goes along Polyneisa, and then along to Japan. Real scientists accept that there certainly was a civilization on the superswell, only skeptics are in denial. If sea levels dropped about 12-20 feet the entire superswell could be exposed above water again

Superswell- see how it would easily be above water in the past. This was the area outined on the documenary as being above water over 10,000 years ago, as well as many islands which would have broken off the coasts of various lands.


And today, underwater


Some info
Earth Change News - Hutton Commentaries

This is "a broad area of uplifted seafloor containing numerous volcanoes in French Polynesia." The boundaries of this superswell contain the Society, Cook, Austral, Tuamotu, Marquises, and Easter island chains. These islands reflect an enhanced rate of volcanism in the superswell area due to enormous quantities of hot mantle rock below the ocean floor.

If the South Pacific Superswell were once above sea level, forming the continent of Lemuria, it would have been buoyed up by a broad bulge in the mantle, much like that recently inferred to be buoying up the lofty peaks and plateaus of the American West. A renewal of mantle upwelling beneath the SPS could result in the seafloor there rising above the waves once again. Such activity would bear out the statement in Cayce reading 1152-11 (8/13/41) which says that, "In the next few years, lands will appear in the Atlantic as well as in the Pacific."

“volcanism can be attributed to [crust and mantle] downflow and recycling at the recognized subduction zones of Indonesia and the Pacific rim, but to upwelling and decompression melting at mid-ocean ridges and ‘hotspots’. Some of the Pacific island chains, best exemplified by the Hawaiian chain, are conventionally attributed to reheating of a lithospheric plate as it migrates over a deep-source hotspot. The hotspot and moving plate model of island chain volcanism is faced with several problems, however, including the occurrence of along-chain compositional changes, the typical absence of “plume scale” heat flow anomalies, and the absence, for example along the Cook-Austral chain, of a systematic sequence of geologic ages.”

Keith then goes on to reveal that the combined geophysical and geochemical evidence brings out the inadequacy of the plume model, thus leaving open the problem of accounting for linear oceanic island chains. He then proposes , as a working hypothesis, that the Hawaiian-Emperor chain (Fig. 3) is located along the trend of a linear cold residue developed below the ancestral Mid-Pacific Ridge, and that “part of the residue was left behind when the ridge was variably displaced during a Mesozoic disruption of the Pacific mantle….” (p. 302).






And the thing is, the Superswell corresponds to James Churchwards location of Mu very precicely
Earth Change News - Hutton Commentaries


“Plate-like” subsidence of the East Pacific Rise–South Pacific superswell system
“Plate-like” subsidence of the East Pacific Rise–South Pacific superswell system



The Superswell and Mantle Dynamics Beneath the South Pacific -- McNutt and Judge 248 (4958): 969 -- Science

The Superswell and Mantle Dynamics Beneath the South Pacific
Marcia K. McNutt 1 and Anne V. Judge 1

1 Department of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA 02139

The region of sea floor beneath French Polynesia (the "Superswell") is anomalous in that its depth is too shallow, flexural strength too weak, seismic velocity too slow, and geoid anomaly too negative for its lithospheric age as determined from magnetic isochrons. These features evidently are the effect of excess heat and extremely low viscosity in the upper mantle that maintain a thin lithospheric plate so easily penetrated by volcanism that 30 percent of the heat flux from all hot spots is liberated in this region, which constitutes only 3 percent of the earth's surface. The low-viscosity zone may facilitate rapid plate motion and the development of small-scale convection. A possible heat supply for the Superswell is a mantle reservoir enriched in radioactive isotopes as suggested by the geochemical signature of lavas from Superswell volcanoes.





[edit on 4-2-2009 by Hollywood11]




posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 05:23 PM
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Continental crust found at bottom of Pacific Ocean
Continental crust in OJ?

Abstract

A rare quartz-garnet clinopyroxenite xenolith recovered from the island of Malaita in the southwest Pacific on the Ontong Java Plateau has lower 206Pb/204Pb-143Nd/144Nd and higher 87Sr/86Sr-207Pb/204Pb ratios than most oceanic basalts, providing the first conclusive evidence for an ancient crustal origin for pyroxenites within the Pacific convective mantle. Constraints from major and trace-element characteristics, the large extent of Hf-Nd isotopic decoupling, and the good agreement of Pb isotopes with the Stacey-Kramers curve, all indicate that contamination of southern Pacific mantle occurred by the subduction or delamination of Neoproterozoic granulite-like lower crust with an age of 0.5-1 Ga. This crustal recycling could have taken place around the suture of the Rodinia supercontinent, a part of which resurfaced during the mantle upwelling responsible for creating the Cretaceous Ontong Java Plateau.



Pacific ocean





New Zealand was in fact once a very large continent like Australia
Sea floor geology - Zealandia: the New Zealand continent - Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand




posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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Believe, no just not able to prove conclusively that there is NOT an unknown, bronze age culture out there we haven't found.

Plato's Atlantis, highly improbable.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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Ah Hollywood do you actually read any of these links?

I'm asking as some of these are talking about geological features and events created tens to hundreds of millions of years ago. This isn't evidence of fictional Mu.

Another one Hollywood


The region of sea floor beneath French Polynesia (the "Superswell") is anomalous in that its depth is too shallow, flexural strength too weak, seismic velocity too slow, and geoid anomaly too negative for its lithospheric age as determined from magnetic isochrons. These features evidently are the effect of excess heat and extremely low viscosity in the upper mantle that maintain a thin lithospheric plate so easily penetrated by volcanism that 30 percent of the heat flux from all hot spots is liberated in this region, which constitutes only 3 percent of the earth's surface. The low-viscosity zone may facilitate rapid plate motion and the development of small-scale convection. A possible heat supply for the Superswell is a mantle reservoir enriched in radioactive isotopes as suggested by the geochemical signature of lavas from Superswell volcanoes.


So Hollywood explain to us how this supports the idea of a fictional Mu? I'm asking because it doesn't but you are posting scientific material that provides no support for your theory.

Why would you do that?



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 06:50 PM
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9 April 2007
Hungarian burial site yields unique archaeological find

Archaeologists exploring a Neolithic burial site in Tolna County (Hungary), have discovered what may easily be the most exciting tomb ever unearthed in Europe, Professor Istvan Zalai-Gaal, who has been leading the diggings, reported.
The tomb is 7,000 years old and was the burial chamber of a tribal chieftain. There is a heavy upright log in each corner, believed to have originally held an aboveground structure over the 2x2m tomb. Inside, said Zalai-Gaal, archaeologists found polished stone axes and other stone tools typical of the Neolithic, as well as the largest stone knife ever to be recovered from that period. They also discovered a decorated bullhorn, a marble war club and an axe head that though stone, bears the shape of a Bronze Age weapon.
Scientists believe the tribe was aware of metal tools but did not have the metal to make any, leading them to copy the form. Also discovered was a necklace made of hundreds of bronze beads, combined with shells from the Mediterranean, the latter obviously traded goods, said Zalai-Gaal. One had to be extraordinarily wealthy to have a necklace like this, he pointed out.
Some 14,000 square metres have been excavated on this site, probably the largest known Stone Age dig in Europe. Over one million artefacts have been uncovered, Zalai-Gaal added, saying that the exploration was ongoing, though the site was in the pathway of a motorway that was under construction.

Source: MTI (23 April 2007)



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Hanslune
Believe, no just not able to prove conclusively that there is NOT an unknown, bronze age culture out there we haven't found.

I will go even further and stipulate that there is probably more than one such culture.

Harte



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 04:46 PM
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Howdy Harte

I'll do an Edgar.....ah 7 more to be found before 2032! Hey that channeling stuff is easy, LOL


I suspect we'll find more in the 'wood' zones, where they built habitations exclusively with wood. I would think we'll see more (we are already seeing some discoveries in those areas) South America, Persia, Balkans, Central Europe, Indo China and even China itself. Wouldn't completely dismiss the Siberian forest areas either. Not so sure for Central Africa but possible too.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 06:01 PM
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we need not worry about a wood only zone. they were building with huge cut rectangular blocks of stone well before the neolithic.

in instances where they were not using stone, they dug unrealistically massive structures which have been well preserved by the catastrophe just like the stone.

of course the legends of these things being built are very well preserved too.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by Hollywood11
 


Ah Hollywood do you actually read any of these links?

I'm asking as some of these are talking about geological features and events created tens to hundreds of millions of years ago. This isn't evidence of fictional Mu.

Another one Hollywood


The region of sea floor beneath French Polynesia (the "Superswell") is anomalous in that its depth is too shallow, flexural strength too weak, seismic velocity too slow, and geoid anomaly too negative for its lithospheric age as determined from magnetic isochrons. These features evidently are the effect of excess heat and extremely low viscosity in the upper mantle that maintain a thin lithospheric plate so easily penetrated by volcanism that 30 percent of the heat flux from all hot spots is liberated in this region, which constitutes only 3 percent of the earth's surface. The low-viscosity zone may facilitate rapid plate motion and the development of small-scale convection. A possible heat supply for the Superswell is a mantle reservoir enriched in radioactive isotopes as suggested by the geochemical signature of lavas from Superswell volcanoes.


So Hollywood explain to us how this supports the idea of a fictional Mu? I'm asking because it doesn't but you are posting scientific material that provides no support for your theory.

Why would you do that?



It does show that Mu existed because with a few Earthquakes or Volcanic eruptions the Superswell would easily be raised above sea level and certainly was at one time in the last 10,000-20,000 years.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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It does show that Mu existed because with a few Earthquakes or Volcanic eruptions the Superswell would easily be raised above sea level and certainly was at one time in the last 10,000-20,000 years.


Hans: Really? A scientific study mentions Mu?

Okay, show us where it says that please, with quotes from the actual document.....but wait here is a summary for you below

In particular point out "Mu" and "10,000-20,000 years"??



Extending this analysis, McNutt et al. [1990] suggested that the Darwin Rise was uplifted during the Cretaceous, and was similar to the present Superswell until about 70 Ma. Larson [1991] termed the Cretaceous event a Superplume, which produced both the Darwin Rise and very large amounts of lithosphere at midocean ridges. In this model, the present Superswell reflects the Superplume's waning phase.


One of many links

These guys are talking about the area being uplifted during the cretaeceous age with a decline beginning around 70,000,000 years ago.

We look forward to your scholarly presentation.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:37 AM
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These guys are talking about the area being uplifted during the cretaeceous age with a decline beginning around 70,000,000 years ago.

We look forward to your scholarly presentation.

I believe you're missing the whole Earth-went-belly-up-and-inversed-on-itself (and Orcs went extinct, sad thing) idea so that XX million years is actually just about 10500 years, give or take.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 12:21 PM
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Ah yes, but in this case Hollywood is just posting random stuff that has no particular meaning. He is just putting out nonsense to show his displeasure at being questioned.

He is not to be questioned you know, just believed.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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Well my grand dads siser go hypnoised once to investigate a past life. Turned out she was a french revolutionist who got hung or her head chopped off.... i cant remember which one.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 02:00 PM
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Could she then speak French, Occitan or Breton? Odd isn't it that people who claim to have been others can never speak the original language of their prior self.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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Hans, I have a question and maybe you can shed some light on it.

I have read about an island in polynesia, that is the site of massive stone constructions, palace, temples , harbor ect, that dates to the 15-16th century?.

Do you know the name of this island?



The talk about Mu made me remember it.

The current inhabitants say that 2 great warriors, foreigners, arrived and sort of enslaved the locals and they built this stone city by the sea.

The locals later revolted and drove the warriors away, or something like that.


I have been trying to find the name of this island, but for the life me of I cant.

The reason is that I also remeber reading a story about 2 samurai, brothers, that forced to leave japan, an honor thing.
They fled to the islands in the east, for a couple of decades before returning to japan with tales ruling of far off kingdoms.
The similarities between the two stories has me intruiged.

And it most certainly wasnt Mu, or lemuria.

But the island does exist, I have seen pictures of constructions, they even laid stones 12-15' underwater to build the harbor.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 06:53 PM
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posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Parta
nan madol


Thats the one
thanks



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:55 PM
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Nan Madol

Yes they used natural stone 'logs" an excellent feat of engineering. Just over a eight hundred to a thousand year old it a testiment to the Polynesian taboo system



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