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An open letter to all so called militias and revolutionist

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posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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One more thing. Those of you who worry about the infiltraitors, government agents on ATS or anywhere else hearing you say "questionable" things, YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST EVERYTHING. Individual thinking is how they have won already. As an individual you are afraid of what will happen to you, you have forgotten that your neighbor, friends, family are in the same boat with the same worries. I speak freely because I don't care. I speak freely in defiance, almost daring them. Even you peaceful hand holders could learn from that.


Sun TZE disagrees with you, and he is a proven victor:

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.


I would much rather take Sun Tzu's advice than yours. I suspect the militias feel the same way. You have obviously never been in battle, because with that attitude, you wouldn't be here to make such a comment.




posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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I am with you. But as my dad used to say and my mom, who was a marine and my dad was Coast Guard, if you are standing there and see a need, then you are the one to do it. So for all on this thread who are waiting, get up I will lead you, because sadly you are like all sheeple, you are waiting for someone else to be the first one cause you are to scared to be the one doing the leading.

If you are followers waiting for a leader, how will you know if its the right leader? If you lead then you will know whom you follow.

I am in Winnemucca NV. For over 30 years I have done all I can do. In the early 90's my, now ex, and I were responsible for stopping the GWEN towers from being built, there are only 24 and the program was stopped because of our efforts.

Colonel Gritz is supposedly trainning leaders, though some think he is a double agent.

Sadly also some of us have to spend time just surviving now. We know this site is monitered, so how do we reach one another? They have a chat site but like all big brother sites only special people are allowed in.

And I would not know how to find you on yahoo or IRC.

I have been strategizing for a long time and putting together a plan, but ............................well you figure it out.

For historical reference, "we the people" started and fought the revolution with our own guns, we are still the militia.

Also in case you all are not aware of it they only need a small contigent of soldirs because they are using a sound device that can immobilize an entire town in five minutes letting them walk in and take and do whatever they like without firing a shot. So add a specialized helmet to your supplies.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 04:11 PM
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do you think we are the only ones who have experienced corruption and times of disagreement in the government when looking at the US and its history as a whole? of course the govt does things that piss a lot of us off and we know they are wrong, but its not like its never happened before. you just dont read about it in history books and records. most history you hear about is the significant and life- changing events, not when the govt passes a bill that no one likes. obvioiusly the house and senate are filled with a bunch of jacka$$es and its needs to be changed. but i dont believe the time has yet come that we must take up arms against them. sure it would solve most problems but in order to do that the mass of America must be in agreement with you. i just dont believe we are ready for such drastic measures, speaking as America as a whole. but when that day comes i will gladly fight on your side.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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I see your reply goes as unoticed as mine. There are about 4 to 5 of us on here. Problem now is this thread did not stay on the front page. The only way I seen it, was the newletter and it was on the bottom.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 11:33 PM
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Contraire, comrades. I am following this thread with interest. And to what kind of special helmet do you refer?

Am especially interested in any technology that would defeat/deflect or nullify the effects of microwave and sound weapons.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 04:15 AM
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Mine is made from a grade tin foil and it also reflect alien transmission... $2.95 at home depot.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 09:38 AM
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The whole world watches along with the rest of our "government". They suddenly realize they have lost control and that more are joining our cause....that they better meet the demands of the people or they are next. What do you people think???? Do you think there are 10,000 soilders in DC or anywhere else ready to be deployed against their own citizens at a moments notice? There's not. I'm sure they have some sort of plan for such a situation, but we would surely overwhelm them quickly if we showed up in masses. You guys with the military avatars, moods and signitures keep giving these crypitic responces saying that you look out for the people above all else, then you turn around and talk about the resistance that will be given by military personel. Which is it? I'm not sure you are even worth arguing with given your impotent responces.....



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 09:44 AM
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Yes, that's right, if we all speak out and speak freely black helicopters will land in our backyard and take us all one by one.....yep. Giving you the benefit of doubt they would implement a mass round up program if they saw that relovlt was immnint because so many were speaking out.....sounds the a good way to start a revolution to me. Yep, speaking out and speaking freely seems to be the thing to do.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by mushninja
reply to post by Papa Sierra
 

The whole world watches along with the rest of our "government". They suddenly realize they have lost control and that more are joining our cause....that they better meet the demands of the people or they are next. What do you people think???? Do you think there are 10,000 soilders in DC or anywhere else ready to be deployed against their own citizens at a moments notice? There's not. I'm sure they have some sort of plan for such a situation, but we would surely overwhelm them quickly if we showed up in masses. You guys with the military avatars, moods and signitures keep giving these crypitic responces saying that you look out for the people above all else, then you turn around and talk about the resistance that will be given by military personel. Which is it? I'm not sure you are even worth arguing with given your impotent responces.....


I'll agree with you on this one. The military is stretched so thin, that one of the big problems Mr. Obama did not think about is Guantanimo Bay closing. Our Federal Prisons are not guarded by military anymore, they are contracted to run the prison, which is a big concern with putting terrorists in there.
That's how thin the millitary is. National Guard cannot be deployed in the US to another state by the President. Each Govenor has hoops to jump thru to do it as well. Besides, most of them are overseas right now.
The one to worry about is Northcom. I think they have 36 thousand, but I am not sure.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 05:01 PM
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I even spelled out a plan and they did not show up at the door.
Show of force is a mental game. If a mass shows up, they are not going to hit us with Hellfires or what ever. They might take troops and try to block the way, but you plan for that in advance. No troops will fire on us as long as no one fires on them.

You cannot just have a million people just show up either. Tear gas and the usual will apply.
The reason the 2nd amendment says "An Organized Militia" is for a reason.
You show up in an organized fashion and present demands. You have and show force, but you should not need it.
If they don't respond to meet demands, that's when you will have them flanked by rampage and chaos from the masses.
When all that is going on, you march in and take it.



posted on Feb, 8 2009 @ 05:02 PM
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Oh, the chaos part is where groups like the skinheads and such come into play.



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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THANK YOU!!! I am glad someone gets me....I wasn't sure if I could say it any plainer LOL. Everyone keeps trying act like there is no middle ground between peaceful talks and burning down the capitol lol. Though you lost me with the skinhead remark. If excriment hits the fan I have no desire to hook up with ANY hate based group and would treat them as enemies, even if they are shooting at the same uniforms as me.

Paragraphs woooooooo!

Also, alot of people on here act like I am ready to run out and fight "if only I had a leader". While I'm about as ready as I can be nothing could be further from the truth, and I need no leader should it come to be. To be perfectly honest I don't think most of you are worth saving and I am not about to run out and pick a fight on your behalf. I think most of you are worthless scum and don't derserve to live....the space your body takes up on this planet is a waste of atmoshspheric pressure as far as I am concerned. At the same time I would be willing to fight for the greater good....if there is one anymore. If you read the last line of several of my post you will see that is says exactly what I am thinking regarding this, but I'll repeat myself for at least the third time for you. "There is no revoloution, no day of rekoning, only me running and surviving." If you need it broken down any more than that you probably shouldn't be operating a keyboard.

Another paragraph!!!!

To sum it up for those of you slow thinking, short bus riding, window lickers on here, the general context of my original post is this....
Those who claimed to be our protection from tyranny should have stood up and fought for us long ago...Le..le...let no let me finish damnit....I NEVER claimed to be a member of a militia, nor a revolutionist on this thread and those that did/do need to get off their asses and do something. So shut your mouth before something stupid falls out of it like telling me to go fight a one man war. I know you think you're real tough getting on here and trying to call me out like you're some kind of tough guy and I'm too scared to do what I see needs done. But you're not, and neither am I. I NEVER MADE IT MY JOB, but I would if a real movement came into fruitation. How do you start a movement???? YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH TO ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN. You shout it out for all to hear regardless of whether or not your enemy hears/opposes what you have to say. Just like I did here. Everytime one of you idiots tries to back me into a corner I respond, then suddenly you have nothing to say, so save bandwidth.....keep you mouth shut.

Paragraphic porn I tell ya...

This nation/world has/is going to crap in a crap basket (I know, that's alot of poop.) and I have pretty much given up on it ever getting better. People aren't waking up...well maybe a few but not enough to do anything real. Those that are think that peace and love is the only way to change anything. While it IS the ultimate goal, I do not believe it is the vessel by which we will arrive at our goal. It is too late for a peaceful resolution of all that is wrong, and no one seems to see that. Most of you are sheeple, and always will be. All is lost and there is no going back. Their grip is tightening and I become more withdrawn from society everyday. As they push, I will push back. I will most likely end up in trouble because of it. If that makes me an enemy of the state so be it, they are already an enemy in my mind. I stand, but I stand alone thanks to your spinelessness.

The moneyshot...

You military guys don't impress me in the least bit. First of all you willingly signed your life away to the government and followed orders. You were gulible enough to believe that what you were doing would benefit your fellow Americans and afford you the chance to nobely protect them. You have only proven that you are the portion of the population most likely to fall prey to propaganda and brainwashing. That, and not one of you are willing to give a clear consice statement of where you stand should you be given orders to police/shoot/control/round up/ Americans, only half a***d cryptic hints at what you might or might not do. What are you afaid of?....they must still have alot of infulance over you....nope can't trust you guys. By the way, I have seen countless tough guy Marines come into the gym strutting around thinking they were tough guys only to spend the next hour and a half on the mat getting tossed around like rag dolls by smaller guys...whats up with that? There is no need to for me to continue on with this discussion, I have aquired the answers I sought out. Though I had to read between the lines to achieve this conclusion since no one is willing to call it for what it is.....We are all screwed and noone will do anything except take care of themselves....guess I can't blame them.

There is no revolution, no day of reckoning, only me running and surviving.



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 12:40 PM
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i step forward my friend, i wish to organize and launch an assualt ( not physicially ) on the minds that control us, i believe in your fight and your casue, and as of now i am recruiting a few solid members that will help me in my fight against supression, hopefully one day the minority will be more than the majority ( mentally speaking again ). when we awake to the truth then only are free to explore and decifer!

peace



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 07:30 PM
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J200, my entire last post was't directed at you specifly, just the top paragraph.



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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Thank you for making the distinction between what you are trying to convey and the racial inference made earlier.

I didn't think that you were about that, and didn't want to see your thread be tainted by something like that.

Many people feel that the constitution and freedom needs to be upheld, myself included. I just couldn't participate in something that facilitated harm against innocents based on color.

I am also aware that militias in there pure form are not about racism.

Mushninja, check your u2u's.



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 10:00 PM
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I am a walking contridiction of my own beliefs. While I am your typical good ole boy who tightly clenches his rifle and gets on a soapbox to preach patriotisim/constitution/America every chance I get I also believe we should have a borderless/governmentless planet that we can all walk freely (the mush in mushninja suddenly makes sense now doesn't it?).

On one hand I say no government has dominion over me, on the other I call for a restoration of America. The later I realize is the most likely to occur, and the most likely to mobilize people even in the most far fetched of fantacy worlds. That and many more people are willing to raise hell in the name of the constitution than my hippy beliefs. I don't think we need to list our rights as human beings on paper in order for them to be granted to us by some entity who has claim of jurisdiction over a piece of land that we happened to be born on. I honestly think visicously striking out at anything/anyone that ever came along and infringed upon those rights that we all have as creatures on this earth is the only natural/logical reaction. I beleive this drive to survive has been taken from us on purpose, some of us are still a little cantankerous though. I just wish whatever is going to happen would just happen because I am tired of watching this. Does anyone else here feel like they are living on the fence, just waiting to see what the next move is and how bad it will hurt us? It's hard to commit to a lifestyle you're not even sure will exist shortly.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 09:47 PM
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Well, I'll be hated for this, but an armed...anything, against the government will only end with the insurgents dead and in prison and the powers that be more powerfull than before. Anyone ever hear of the American Civil War? That's exactly what happened then, what the hell makes anyone think it'll go better for armed insurrection now?
hate me all you want, I may end up workling in the government, go ahead flame me, send me hatefull U2U's, I don't care. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword, the only thing i want out of life is to get married, raise a family and maybe publish a few books. I do believe in the 2nd amend and all the others, but taking up arms is foolish, irresponsible and futile. Not to mention, wrong.



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 12:15 PM
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I am glad we agree and both get the Middle ground. I am taking action and getting a plan. But action must show itself within a month.

As to your question of "skinheads". It would be to an advantage to take and have semi-control over the uncontrolled. If they are not kept at bay, they will be the one's to join and make it very dangerous for everyone.

If SHTF, then you let them do what ever they are going to do. You just direct the angle that they are coming from.



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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"All that is needed" is simple in principal and yet the hardest thing to do. Stand up for yourself. When confronted with injustice, resist. When confronted with threat of bodily harm or imprisonment, pull the trigger. That one split second decision to step outside the shell of social norm, step outside the accepted status quo, which may feel like you are losing your mind, is not to be feared, it is in fact a rebirth. When you pull the trigger in defense of your inailienable rights, that my friends is called freedom.

If we all took a stand there would be no force of oppression in the world that could quell our advances. All revolutions begin with one man's resistance to tyrrany.

When the time comes, sooner than most of you may think; when your family is hungry, when you and yours no longer serves a useful purpose to the American machine and they come to dismantle everything you've spent your life building. Look behind you, you're in a corner. Lift the rifle, let out a mighty roar and free yourself.



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Glad to see somebody else tell them how stupid it sounds guess they dont realise that armed anything means more gun control,Well more control of everything more of our rights taken because of the action of a few maybe mush works for oboma and wants to start something just so he can say see i told you guns are bad



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