Originally posted by Long Lance

even if that was so, the UN is still a bunch of wanna-be world rulers who are run by defunct politicians and generally out of touch. when they don#t get what they want, they lie, threaten and whine via PR campaign, if applicable. real classy.

yep, they are a trillion times as DANGEROUS as "israel"

israel only poses a threat to its neighbors , the UN poses a threat to us all, the entire world

Originally posted by masonwatcher
Fantastic detective work reading between the lines. What a relief! It must mean that 1300 civilian didn't die after all and water for hospitals is not so important.

Many thanks for setting the record straight.

Star and flag for you.

Let me try and explain it to you this way and see if you can still maintain your sarcasm.

If the UN lied about this, then what else have they lied about? And then what is their real agenda? Maybe you and people that believe as you do are just being taken for a ride every time you take one of their reports as "gospel".

Any thinking person should find this very troubling.



[edit on 2/3/2009 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by dbates
Well, Hamas doesn't exactly like to brag about their members getting killed.

Why wouldn't they given how their a national liberation movement? I mean what are you losing exactly when you admit that a imperial force with overwhelming force is managing to kill your leaders and or members?

No one is going to lob 3 mortar rounds into the same location without some intel that indicates a target.

And according to the Israeli government this recent mission was to punish Hamas for it's supposed attacks on Israel; what isn't a target when your punishing a political party? How did more than half the schools in Gaza become destroyed or damaged and 80% of the crops destroyed/failed?

I have no problems with acknowledging that civilians and innocents were killed. Still I'm not naive enough to believe that it was just a lovely day at the market when 3 random rounds came in for no reason what-so-ever.

Because you have decided to believe that Israel is not trying to destroy as much critical infrastructure as possible while proclaiming to be targetting 'terrorist'. As far as Hamas goes i think they have admitted to less than a hundred deaths of card carrying members ( 'terrorist' , as being part of this political party apparently makes you) meaning that the other 95% are like in Iraq and Afghanistan innocents.

Like I said earlier, that's not the issue. 43 people were killed. Why didn't the U.N. state that 43 were killed for no reason?

Because the UN is not a fair and impartial observer and in fact mostly protects Israel from the worse criticism? Did you miss the fact how a dozen UN schools and other installations where damaged in this almost month long seige?

Why the need to elevate the situation into a story of how a school was attacked? Pure propaganda.

The real story of how Gazan schools were bombarded is far worse and as always the Israeli's propaganda seems to be effective in not only exposing the lies/misrepresentations of others but also to cover up their actual crimes and state terrorism.

Few other 'organizations' can claim the same so frankly you shouldn't expect too much sympathy from me for what is still a imperial state.

Stellar

Originally posted by centurion1211



Let me try and explain it to you this way and see if you can still maintain your sarcasm.

If the UN lied about this, then what else have they lied about? And then what is their real agenda? Maybe you and people that believe as you do are just being taken for a ride every time you take one of their reports as "gospel".

Any thinking person should find this very troubling.

[edit on 2/3/2009 by centurion1211]

Show me evidences that UN is lying intentionally, and second that UN has a hidden agenda.
Or I will show you evidences of brutally killed people.

Originally posted by deccal


Show me evidences that UN is lying intentionally, and second that UN has a hidden agenda.
Or I will show you evidences of brutally killed people.

ok first of all, this entire website is packed full of evidence to implicate the UN as being involved in countless conspiracies

second of all, those dead bodies you will show me, they were killed in order to JUSTIFY making the UN the Official World Government Authority overriding all states

this isnt anything new, its been around since the 1950's

check out the John Birch Society, or go watch "Money Masters", research RFID tags, investigate things!

who are Skull and Bones or Scroll and Key or Wolf's Head???

How do those societies relate to the Council on Foreign Relations? The Bilderburgers? Trilateral Commission? (what do these groups stand for?)

How do all of these relate to the Pilgrim's Society? Who are the Pilgrims?

and this all goes directly back to the United Nations
there are many Undisputed facts you can find if you will just research these subjects in depth

Originally posted by deccal

You are right, I don't have a point to claim. You won: UN is fabricating, Hamas is using children as human shield.
What is your point then? I want to know, what you all, the defenders of killing, are really want say.


[edit on 3-2-2009 by deccal]

no ones defending killing here

were trying to show you the UN is BEHIND all of this chaos

their policies have fomented this conflict and created the situation in the first place!

Hamas was created by Mossad , who was created by Israel, who was created by the United Nations

therefore Hamas is a spawn of the UN's failed policies and idiotic strategies

100% of the blame should fall on the UN here in the first place
they created this whole pile o crap

now watch them demand more power and authority in order to deal with the global crises ...

Originally posted by dooper

How did they happen to drop three quick rounds on a street, with some 40-odd "civilians" present?

Sir, such statements like 40-odd "civilans" are really disrespectful. If you put the word civilans in quotation marks, this means that you are approving their death. First of all I want say that many people from these 40-odd people were under 18. Maybe they didn't experience real love, sex, hate or sorrow but only real death they experienced.
Secondly, such attitudes (put the word civilans in quotation marks) makes me remember how many Westerns dont count the death of Easterns (Middle Easterns, Arabs, Turks, Muslims, Africans, Caucasians etc.. etc..)as real, becuase innerly they believe they are not civilized and dont belong to the family of humanity, hence they might not be human. Anyway, thirdly, I want to say, your putting the word civilans in quotation marks gives me right to say that all death people in 9/11 in World Trade Center were not civilans, because they were working intentionally for bloody system of capitalism and their every work hour in WTC meant a death of a child in Africa. Well, I will not call this way, because in both events defenceless people are killed. The deaths died, the killers still in their warm home.
We have to be careful what we are saying about death people.

[edit on 3-2-2009 by deccal]

Originally posted by muzzleflash


no ones defending killing here

my word was not directed to you though