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reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 04:46 PM by dooper
reply to post by DCPatriot



Here's the thing. For years and years, Iran and even Russia has been using front organizations to do their dirty work, and even when they're caught, Iran and Russia have plausible denial.

"Hey, it might have been our stuff, but we don't have any idea where it came from/ we sold it and are not responsible for how it was used. . ." Denial.

Right now, neither the US or Israel wants to openly attack Iran because of the certain political fallout.

Yet all nations agree that Iran cannot be allowed nuclear weapons.

So how do you nuke the hell out of them, and do it without a backtrail directly to your military forces?

A launch from the sea, on a piece of crap ship, to be sunk after use, with escape made via fast boat.

No one to blame. No one to point a finger to. No one to prove was responsible. So, Israel and the US could shrug their shoulders and say, "I don't care what the radiation readings indicate, we have all nuclear weapons accounted for."

"Go bark up another tree."

Independent verification would show that in accordance with documentation, all nukes are accounted for.

Problem eliminated, no direct backtrack.

This would give North Korea, Syria, and a number of nations something to really worry about. "The Americans are pulling the same **** that we've been pulling."

That's how you nuke a country, and then get away with it.


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 04:48 PM by Nichiren
reply to post by bpg131313



Could you tell us what it takes to move nukes from base A to B? I know some info is sensitive/National Security, but just give us a broad sketch.

Thanks.



reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 04:58 PM by MischeviousElf
reply to post by Nichiren



Would you ask who could put out the fire on your scroll?

YOU know what I mean, or who orders, creates and moves the scroll?

It is no good Knowing where a Diamond comes from unless you know who dug it up, to wear a diamond ring is not the same as the asking the jeweller what its like to make it?

Everyone else will probably be a bit lost about this, don't know poster, just using analogies I am sure he can understand, unless its just something he heard and took on as his own.

To the person you ask the question to, they state they are a fireman, have very few posts since joining in march... Firemen never touch these devices, handle them or sign them of in any way shape or form, unless of course something goes wrong, but then they would pull out till Nest got there.

Kind Regards,

Elf.


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 05:11 PM by Nichiren
Originally posted by MischeviousElf
reply to
post by Nichiren



Would you ask who could put out the fire on your scroll?

YOU know what I mean, or who orders, creates and moves the scroll?

It is no good Knowing where a Diamond comes from unless you know who dug it up, to wear a diamond ring is not the same as the asking the jeweller what its like to make it?




Elf,

in English or German please LOL


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 05:19 PM by MischeviousElf
Originally posted by bpg131313
I'm so glad that someone else that has worked there is also speaking out about this. I was stationed there for three years. There's literally no way in the world that nukes get on B-52's accidentally.


So you agree then as the official report states that it DID happen, that the loading was in fact not an accident but done on purpose for some Aim?

Why do you think that is?


Those of us that have worked there know what happens when they are moved. It's not a little event. It's a HUGE process. As a firefighter there, I saw it all. I can assure everyone here that there was no accidental placement of a nuke on a B-52. The people I worked with out there were all top-notch people. The best in their fields.


Thats why everyone finds its soo strange....

As YOU state it is impossible to happen by accident....

So it was done on purpose....

By the TOP-Notch people....


If something was ordered moved, it was signed off on multiple levels and cleared multiple times.


Obviously as you point out from the top of the Command authority somewhere....


The security there is mind-blowing. If something moves, it's deliberate. It's from the top tier in the Air Force. Period.


Exactly......


As for the deaths, it's unfortunate, but they happen. I'd be willing to accept 100 deaths from troops out there before I was willing to accept that a single unauthorized movement of a weapon happened there.


But as you point out it could not of moved unauthorised.........

And OFFICIALLY it has been reported as happening....

Your not making sense now.....


Sadly, people die all the time, even young ones. I'm all for conspiracy theories, but this one just isn't it.


But has been shown and you agree they couldn't have been moved without the authorisation from the TOP....

So that must be a conspiracy as they say it was an accident.... you state that couldn't happen at all as we all agree...

So personally I see dissonance here... you have stated an conspiracy happened but then state it is not...


There are easier places to get this sort of material here in the US than from Minot or Barksdale, perhaps where they are assembled.


But One did go missing from here.... so talking about other options of procurement for a Nuke from anyone involved in this is deflecting from the OP Topic... what we know did happen....

Thank you pointing out the biggest glaring issue of all, not soo much that one went missing and it was an accident, not even the very very strange deaths.... But that this MUST have been a very well orchestrated and organised intention of doing this, moving these nuclear weapons as a "Accident" when that is impossible.... from the highest of Places within the Government and Military.

Kind Regards,

Elf


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 05:23 PM by MischeviousElf
reply to post by Nichiren



Sorry don't want to go off topic but Chanting to the Diamond Sutra or certain words or parts of it written on a scroll as Started as a Branch By a Abbot in Japan Nichiren, aslo known widely by Nicherin, but some sects with translation is your name on ATS....

Nichirin Buddhism

Obviously a computer character or such like sorry...

Elf

[edit on 2-2-2009 by MischeviousElf]


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 05:46 PM by Nichiren
reply to post by whaaa



I totally agree with you. My gut feeling is to put bpg131313 on my ignore list, but I'm willing to see if he/she is really familiar with protocol.


Elf,

I'm just teasing you. I'm a member of the Soka Gakkai International ;-)

Peace.

PS: Sorry OP, back on topic!


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 05:55 PM by questioningall
Originally posted by MischeviousElf
Ohhh But it is not just the Barksdale guys who are dying strangely......

Also the base where the loaded plane was sent is also having some very unfortunate "accidents" and tragic events...........!!!!!

Like Elmendorf Air force Base and the most strange besides a B52 crashing and killing 6 others is the following:


A memorial service has been scheduled for Thursday to honor Brig. Gen. Thomas L. Tinsley, the commander at Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska, who died Sunday of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

AirForce Times

The man in charge where the plane landed!

Where there were just 6 not 7!!!

This man is meant to have shot himself in the head, in a room with his absolutely Beloved Cheerleader all American Daughter and Wife in the house at the same time!!!




With you saying that, it makes me wonder about others from the "receiving" base (Barksdale AFB in Louisiana), and if there happened to have been a few accidents and deaths there also.

How could we find out that information, I wonder?


Good find Elf
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