Within 7 days - 6 died at Minot Air Force Base 07 - Commander now dead

To all the (ex-)military on this thread, please don't use jargon because I don't understand it and it doesn't impress me.

Would you trust a doc who speaks like this: A NHS STR worker told the SU that the local PCT advise the CPA when passing ADHD clients with PTSD from CRHT's to CPN's from the CMHT before giving SSRI's or CBT?

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What is the topic of this thread

Increasing Number of States Declaring Sovereignty
Posted by sakerfa on February 5, 2009
Back in December, the Wall Street Journal had a good chuckle over Russian academic Igor Panarin’s prediction that the United States would break apart by 2010. Using threadbare Cold War logic, Andrew Osborn wrote that Panarin’s forecast “is music to the ears of the Kremlin, which in recent years has blamed Washington for everything from instability in the Middle East to the global financial crisis.” For the WSL scribe, Panarin’s analysis is about the Red Bear “returning to its rightful place on the world stage after the weakness of the 1990s, when many feared that the country would go economically and politically bankrupt and break into separate territories.”



The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were nullified many years ago, at least since the emergence of the Federalists under Alexander Hamilton.

In fact, it was not so much “weakness” that destroyed Russia as it was the IMF, the World Bank, and Wall Street, in other words it was another bankster looting and fire sale scheme that brought the former Soviet Union down, not that we should expect the Wall Street Journal to admit as much. Ditto the current “global financial crisis” and instability in the Middle East.
“Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar,” Osborn summarizes. “Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces — with Alaska reverting to Russian control.”

In the case of a growing number of U.S. states, however, it is not so much economic decline and moral degradation pointing the way to a “disintegration,” but rather violations of the Tenth Amendment. The Tenth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791, and states restates the Constitution’s principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states and to the people. It is based on an earlier provision of the Articles of Confederation: “Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.”


Although Fox News and CNN are not telling you about it, a growing number of states are declaring sovereignty. Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, California, and Georgia have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment. Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, and Illinois are considering such measures.

For details on the particular bills and resolutions introduced by the above states, check out the following:

Washington
New Hampshire
Arizona
Montana
Michigan
Missouri
Oklahoma
California
Georgia

Sadly, far too many Americans are woefully ignorant when it comes to understanding their rights and the Constitution. As Gary Alder notes in his “15 Key Principles of the Founding Fathers,” the “9th and 10th Amendments are the keystones to preserving Freedom.” In fact, the first 10 amendments, known as the Bill of (Individual) Rights, clarify the restraints placed on the national government and they safeguard the rights of individuals. It does not take a rocket scientist to conclude that all of these individual rights are under withereing attack by the federal government.

“Obama’s plans for a federal handgun license, ‘hate crimes’ laws to regulate Christians’ speech about their own religious beliefs on homosexuality, President Obama’s youth corps for mandatory public service and the so-called ‘Fairness Doctrine’ to ‘balance’ talk radio have New Hampshire Lawmakers telling Obama to basically grow up and get some better ideas,” writes Jake Jones. “They say that if Obama’s plans are implimented, it would constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States.”
Unfortunately, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were nullified many years ago, at least since the emergence of the Federalists under Alexander Hamilton, as Thomas J. DiLorenzo persausively argues. “Federalists like Joseph Story and John Marshall, and later Whig politicians like Daniel Webster and Abraham Lincoln… would tell The Big Lie that the Constitution was ratified by ‘the whole people’ and not as it actually was – by the citizens of the sovereign states, with their representatives assembled in state conventions,” writes DiLorenzo. In the years since, the reach and severity of federalism has grown expotentially. “The U.S. government is now characterized by dictatorial power, abuse of every kind of personal liberty, confiscatory taxation, economic fascism, dangerous militarism, and imperialism.” New World Order minion Obama will take this dictatorial power to new heights under the pretense of saving the people from the bankster engineered global economic depression.

As Obama and Congress further extend the dictatorial reach of the federal government — under the control of a small cotorie of globalists and international bankers — we can expect more states to assert their rights under the Constitution and the Tenth Amendment.

Source: www.infowars.com...
dprogram.net...

gore part 1

www.youtube.com...

Part 2
[Note, importantly that Beck is not aware that the Hippie generation was designed by the Travistock Think tank setting up the rebellious generation yet to come. Beck is clueless as to the big agenda. I'm not sure of his real loyalty or if he is just clueless. Again, I repeat Beck is NOT AWARE or pretending to not be aware of the truth he runs his mouth too much here, besides being totally clueless. Focus on the speech mostly.

www.youtube.com...


Reflect to the 911 attack planned by the American and European Illuminati…….here is just one of the reasons………….Patriot Act and John Warner national Defense authorization Act to be able to declare martial law.

FROM LISA………. The definition of "a terrorist" as defined by The Patriot Act, HR 3162, 107th Congress

See the red highlighted area below:



epic.org...

"HR 3162 RDS
107th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 3162
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
October 24, 2001
Received
________________________________________
AN ACT
Title III.
SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
(a) DOMESTIC TERRORISM DEFINED- Section 2331 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in paragraph (1)(B)(iii), by striking `by assassination or kidnapping' and inserting `by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping';
(2) in paragraph (3), by striking `and';
(3) in paragraph (4), by striking the period at the end and inserting `; and'; and
(4) by adding at the end the following:
`(5) the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--
`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
`(B) appear to be intended--
`(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
`(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
`(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
`(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.'.
(b) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 3077(1) of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
`(1) `act of terrorism' means an act of domestic or international terrorism as defined in section 2331;'."


I've highlighted the definition of "a terrorist", and as anyone can plainly see, any type of social or political activist now qualifies as "a terrorist".

Google H.R. 645….see how it fits?

NOTE: From Chris, a good friend he sends this drama they are setting up…………….CIA bees are busy busy busy…..

Mexican authorities say 90 percent of smuggled weapons come from the United States.

MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS ARMED TO THE HILT, THREATENING NATIONAL SECURITY
Wednesday, February 04, 2009

This is modern Mexico, where the leaders of the powerful drug cartels are armed to the teeth with sophisticated weapons, many of which are smuggled over the border from the United States. It is with this array of superior weapons that drug cartels are threatening the very stability of their own country. And it's why America's outgoing CIA Director, Michael Hayden, says violence in Mexico will pose the second greatest threat to U.S. security next year, right after Al Qaeda.
"Americans are understandably focused on the flow of drugs and migrants into the U.S. from Mexico," says Andreas Peter, author of "Border Games: Policing the U.S.-Mexico Divide."
"But too often glossed over in the border security debate is the flow of weapons across the border into Mexico," he told Foxnews.com in a statement via the Internet.
The cartels are obtaining arms from America by using "straw man" buyers, who legally purchase weapons at gun shops and gun shows in the U.S. The weapons cross into Mexico, where border security is much weaker heading south of the border than it is going north.
NOTE: "straw man" buyers???? Don’t they mean CIA or contracted CIA suppliers. Drug issues….wrong. They are getting Mexico ready to be a major distraction and will bleed into the US. Getting us all ready for the North American Union.

KOSOVO, check out the Regional lawmakers meet in Tirana, urge EU to support Corridor 8
06/02/2009
www.setimes.com...

Albania, Macedonia, Bulgaria to Speed up Construction of Corridor 8
The presidents of Albania, Macedonia and Bulgaria have pledged to increase cooperation among their countries and speed up the construction of European Corridor 8, ATA news agency reported on Sunday.


"European Corridor 8, when completed, links the Bulgarian Black Sea port of Varna and the Albanian Mediterranean port of Durazzo via Macedonia. An oil and gas pipeline will also be built between Burgas and Durazzo. It is the largest infrastructure project on the Balkan Peninsula. "

english.peopledaily.com.cn...

www.foxnews.com...

NOTE: Any questions on the reasons for KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE…..to help the Albanian people….?? NO!!!!!!

SUN, 26 APR 1998 21:22:45 GMT
CORRIDOR EIGHT: DREAMS AND INTERESTS
AIM Tirana, April 17, 1998

For some time the Albanian press has been dedicating much space to Corridor 8, or better said the East-West Corridor. Nearly three years ago in New York, in the presence of President Clinton, Presidents of four Balkan countries - Albania, Macedonia, Bulgaria and Turkey signed an agreement on the initiation of works for the construction of what is known Corridor 8. On that occasion the United States offered 30 million dollars for this project. It seems that turbulent events in this region have for some time pushed this project into background, but as of the beginning of this year Corridor 8 was put back on the Balkan agenda. A month ago the EU Foreign Affairs Commissioner, Van den Broek, visited Durrese and inaugurated the beginning of works on the Albanian part of Corridor 8, thereby confirming that the European Union was still interested in this Project.


“There exists in this country a plot to enslave every man, woman, and child. Before i leave this high and noble office I intend to expose this plot!” – JFK

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Do you know what Miles Davis said to Charlie Parker after he soloed for 20 choruses

Originally posted by questioningall
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You are such an asset to this thread, you post wonderful and informative information!!

Thank you!

Yes, but the original question was ...

Oh, I forgot

was it something like........do they have a horn section in Heaven?

What a bunch of nonsense about our Constitution.

You want to give Hamilton the credit over Madison?

Do you know that the Federalist at that time were for a strong central national government and not State sovereignty.

...bah...I'm not going to waste anymore time...but my point is...some of you made, (compelled) me to read some long long posts that required brain work....and then I get to this lunacy about the Constitution and all the credibility you had went right out the window.

Madison was the father of the Constitution with his "Virginia Plan" some hired out group arranged the words so it would sound "special" Rhode Island never showed up for the convention...South Carolina rejected it the first time through....maybe it was North Carolina...doesn't matter. We have over 200yrs of stare decis because the Constitution is "vallid" and followed as best they can......hmmm, ok following precedent in common law not such a great argument.

Originally posted by tgambill
was it something like........do they have a horn section in Heaven?

Not really ...

Peace,

N

Originally posted by Nichiren

Originally posted by paxnatus

You, sir, are insulting my intelligence!

You must be aware of the security involved moving a live warhead from "storage" to the CM and then to the delivery vehicle. We are not talking about ONE (1) mistake. You make it sound like a cadet was asleep at the wheel and "oops" six nukes were on a plane

A gigantic systemic failure of that magnitude will not happen by accident. Now multiply this by 6. Also, both AFBs were involved

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Well said...the security is incredible when moving a live warhead, but seeing as the cops were told by the 5th MUNS personnel that they were empty sticks, the security didn't respond as they usually do. The cops respond to what situation we tell them because they don't know any better. That doesn't make them dumb by any means or any less than us. It isn't there job to 'determine' what is live and what isn't. It is their job to protect what we tell them it is. If we tell them live nuke, well you got the fire team, and a few follow vehicles.

If on the other hand you have empty sticks, there is no concern. Once they are released from the WSA (weapons storage area) the munitions team is on their own with their Entwhistle (tow vehicle) and our trailer.

If they were live and the cops let us out without what the call 'heavy gun' support, that's a foul on them. But if we tell them we are carrying sticks...that isn't their problem.

-Kyo

I really have problems trying to figure out how to start my response to this thread. At first, I want to call the majority of the posters absolute morons who have no contribution to society; however, I know that when a person in an argument leads off with an attack on a persons intelligence, it is typically quite clear that that person has no foot to stand on; and yes, that is a jab at most of the posters here.

Kyo was in Minot. He was a nuclear weapons specialist, 2W251, and does know whay he's talking about. How can he prove this? Hell I don't know, especially since most of you people seem quite hellbent on refuting anything he puts forth. Applebiter - can you prove to me that you don't live in Romania? Short of you physically flying me to your residence, showing me your home, giving me unopened utility bills with your name on them, having me talk to your neighbors who attest to your having lived there your entire life; I can still say you haven't proven anything. Especially if I take on your uncanny need to refuse anything that's in disagreement with what you say, I could say that your neighbors are agents of the Illuminatti controlled CIA, your bills were forged by the Bush administration, and your house is actually a safehouse commonly used during freemason plans to initiate martial law through an incredibly complex string of events started by the misplacement of these nukes. So

I say to you all - why is it that you are so adament about refuting Kyo's expertise, but so willing to accept the supposed expertise of others?

Now I didn't want to join in on this, and I am already getting my antacids ready for the bought of stupidity that is surely to head my way, but for god sake, this thread needs some sanity.

1. 6 missiles loaded with 6 warheads left Minot. 6 missiles with 6 warheads arrived at Barksdale. There was NO warhead missing. Go ahead and throw a link to a foxnews or cnn article about "5 nuclear tipped missiles", all the while completely foregoing the fact that every news station was trying to get ANYTHING they could out as fast as possible, and said there were 5 missiles during their first reports. HOWEVER, they fixed their statement after doing ACTUAL RESEARCH, something many here decidedly forego, and found that a Pylon carries 6 missiles, not five, and corrected their statements. Again, go ahead and input that EVEN THAT was a coverup. All anyone will do is prove my point.

2. As to all of the checks that happen, and all of the verifications needed to move "hot" missiles, and all of the authorizations required. Yeah, that's absolutely true, you need every one of these prerequisites when you move armed missiles. I'll say again WHEN YOU MOVE ARMED MISSILES. If everyone is under the impression that the package is cold, meaning no warheads on the inside, then these checks are no longer required, with a little thing called "technical deviation". A technical deviation means that steps can be skipped that aren't applicable, ie a warhead verification step in a checklist can be "N/A'd" when the missile is cold. This has since changed after the incident happened, since it obviously left the possibility for a warhead to be left unnoticed, when everyone is under the mindset that it's empty.

That's all I feel like having to respond to, since I'm surely about to receive a bout of grief and denunciation.

and before we even get into this...have the bosses check the IP's....that is not another me. That is a fellow 2W2...well...WAS a fellow 2W2. thing is, as much as I know of the situation...he was closer to it than I was

-Kyo

the Topic of the thread is the flying nukes and the attempt to bomb Iran but they got caught by real Americans. AT least 9 were murdered for it that we know of.

Now, the rest of what I wrote does not appear to be linked but it is very much linked to the phases heading to the New World Order which is no questions supported by irrefutable facts. Few really want to challenge the facts and the ones that do usually fall in the disinformational tactic of insults because they have no facts to base their counters on.....

All this is linked.......exactly.

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I am taking what you say seriously, believe me, but if it is true that the rouge element was thwarted, then I think this bodes well for the opposition of these gangsters.
If that scenario is what it appears to be by those who have connected the dots, then the white hats won the battle.

We all need to do our bit and not comply when we have a chance to say "no" to those who would dominate us. People are waking up and one by one turning to another who will listen and they then do the same, it's happening, we are making it happen.

The nwo is not invincible. It is important to keep in mind that history has shown they are certain to fail. One world government simply will not succeed. I know that is what they want. It won't happen.

Originally posted by I was There

2. As to all of the checks that happen, and all of the verifications needed to move "hot" missiles, and all of the authorizations required. Yeah, that's absolutely true, you need every one of these prerequisites when you move armed missiles. I'll say again WHEN YOU MOVE ARMED MISSILES. If everyone is under the impression that the package is cold, meaning no warheads on the inside, then these checks are no longer required, with a little thing called "technical deviation". A technical deviation means that steps can be skipped that aren't applicable, ie a warhead verification step in a checklist can be "N/A'd" when the missile is cold. This has since changed after the incident happened, since it obviously left the possibility for a warhead to be left unnoticed, when everyone is under the mindset that it's empty.

Did you read my post about the systemic failure at the bottom of page 12?

Look I'm not military and I don't pretend to know anything re the incident, but I want to educate myself and learn. I believe that facts and logic lead to the truth.

Yes, Kyo was there, but he (?) has yet to explain how these "mistakes" happened six (6) times in a row. And again, both AFBs were involved. As you know the procedure in question is not a "parallel" event, it's "serial". I would buy one, two and MAYBE (when hell freezes over) three "mistakes", but 6 times is impossible IMHO. I think that's an insult to the men and women that serve our country honorably.

I agree that it won't succeed as they planned. It has failed on numerous occassions, three in the 20th century; 1933, 1960, 1970-1974 timeframe. However they have a few tricks up their sleeves.

I am also firmly fixed on the Revelation side of this conspiracy and the supernatural finally revealing itself.

None of us have a crystal ball unless we work for the CFR, Black Nobility, Bilderbergers....et al....

I firmly believe in the return of Jesus Christ and what the Revelations say. I did draft an eight page thesis descibing these end events.......

We shall see soon I suspect. hey, I don't mind at all someone disagreeing, it is a trying time and few of us on the outside of the Illuminati knows the immediate details.

"It is important to keep in mind that history has shown they are certain to fail. One world government simply will not succeed. I know that is what they want. It won't happen. "

*****Oh by the way, keep in mind they are responsible for ALL the completed and attempted Assassinations of all our presidents. They planned and successfully orchestrated two revolutions and two world wars from 1850 to 1871, and WW III is yet to happen in the Middle East as planned by Albert Pike and earlier the basic plan by Adam Weishaupt.

Each of the 13 Illuminati families carried the strategy and tradition from father to son, hiding in the 33rd degree Masons, Vatican, and zionism right up to today.



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Originally posted by tgambill
the Topic of the thread is the flying nukes and the attempt to bomb Iran but they got caught by real Americans. AT least 9 were murdered for it that we know of.

Now, the rest of what I wrote does not appear to be linked but it is very much linked to the phases heading to the New World Order which is no questions supported by irrefutable facts. Few really want to challenge the facts and the ones that do usually fall in the disinformational tactic of insults because they have no facts to base their counters on.....

All this is linked.......exactly.

If you say so

Originally posted by tgambill
"It is important to keep in mind that history has shown they are certain to fail. One world government simply will not succeed. I know that is what they want. It won't happen. "

*****Oh by the way, keep in mind they are responsible for ALL the completed and attempted Assassinations of all our presidents. They planned and successfully orchestrated two revolutions and two world wars from 1850 to 1871, and WW III is yet to happen in the Middle East as planned by Albert Pike and earlier the basic plan by Adam Weishaupt.

Each of the 13 Illuminati families carried the strategy and tradition from father to son, hiding in the 33rd degree Masons, Vatican, and zionism right up to today.

[edit on 8-2-2009 by tgambill]

Ok, with all due respect: please stay on topic!