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posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:39 PM
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Air Force Refused to Fly Missing Nukes to Middle East

WMR has learned from U.S. and foreign intelligence sources that the B-52
transporting six stealth AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles, each armed with a W-80-1 nuclear warhead, on August 30, were destined for the Middle East via Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana.

However, elements of the Air Force, supported by U.S. intelligence agency
personnel, successfully revealed the ultimate destination of the nuclear
weapons and the mission was aborted due to internal opposition within the
Air Force and U.S. Intelligence Community.

Yesterday, the /Washington Post/ attempted to explain away the fact that
America's nuclear command and control system broke down in an unprecedented manner by reporting that it was the result of "security failures at multiple levels." It is now apparent that the command and control breakdown, reported as a BENT SPEAR incident to the Secretary of Defense and White House, was not the result of a command and control chain-of-command "failures" but the result of a revolt and push back by various echelons within the Air Force and intelligence agencies against a planned U.S. attack on Iran using nuclear and conventional weapons.

The /Washington Post/ story on BENT SPEAR may have actually been an effort in damage control by the Bush administration. WMR has been informed by a knowledgeable source that one of the six nuclear-armed cruise missiles was, and may still be, unaccounted for. In that case, the nuclear reporting incident would have gone far beyond BENT SPEAR to a National Command Authority alert known as EMPTY QUIVER, with the special classification of PINNACLE.

Just as this report was being prepared, /Newsweek/ reported that Vice
President Dick Cheney's recently-departed Middle East adviser, David
Wurmser, told a small group of advisers some months ago that Cheney had considered asking Israel to launch a missile attack on the Iranian nuclear site at Natanz. Cheney reasoned that after an Iranian retaliatory strike, the United States would have ample reasons to launch its own massive attack on Iran. However, plans for Israel to attack Iran directly were altered to an Israeli attack on a supposed Syrian-Iranian-North Korean nuclear installation in northern Syria.

nationalexpositor.com...

The Air Force Cover-Up of that Minot-Barksdale Nuclear Missile Flight
by dlindorff
Wed Oct 31, 2007 at 12:31:06 PM PST


www.dailykos.com...


Six Minot airmen die mysteriously in one week
September 24, 2007 ·

The activist group Citizens for Legitimate Government said the six members of the US Air Force who were directly involved as loaders or as pilots, were killed within 7 days in ‘accidents’.

aftermathnews.wordpress.com...

Was a Covert Attempt to Bomb Iran with Nuclear Weapons foiled by a Military Leak?

www.nationalexpositor.com...




posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by applebiter
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The loading and overflight of those nukes was not an accident. Your allusions to inside knowledge and your technical jargon do not change this fact. It also doesn't change the fact that complementary fuses were shipped to Taiwan.

It strains credulity that anyone would buy the "oops, we so crazy" explanation you are pushing, but then I remember seeing former Illinois Governor Blagojevich on television shows, practicing "deny, deny, deny" and I realize that the USAF and the larger military body has no choice but to deny, deny, deny.

At least now I know how to parse your contributions in the future.


You know what's funny? People who think they know more and better than
another and offer no evidence whatsoever to back up any of their accusations. Then you have someone who gives detailed information backing up the claims that they at least know what they are talking about.

Yet, the informed poster (Kyo) is accused of lying and making "allusions"
having inside info. because you either A. can't understand what he is saying.
B. want so badly to believe in some "Great Conspiracy"; or C. Can't handle the fact that you may be wrong.

What many have failed to remember, is that anytime you have human involvement in any endeavor, you also run the risk of human error.
The men and women of the military are not 'mini gods' they are just people
like you and me. Fact is No one is above making mistakes.

[edit on 6-2-2009 by paxnatus]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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I am as informed as I can be on this subject. But don't take my word for it, really. Do the research yourself. I know it would be much more comforting to believe this isn't what it is. I know that some people (like you, apparently) get confused and mistake my disregard of social niceties for a measure of the accuracy of my analysis.

www.willthomasonline.net...

[edit on 6-2-2009 by applebiter]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by applebiter
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I am as informed as I can be on this subject. But don't take my word for it, really. Do the research yourself. I know it would be much more comforting to believe this isn't what it is. I know that some people (like you, apparently) get confused and mistake my disregard of social niceties for a measure of the accuracy of my analysis.

www.willthomasonline.net...

[edit on 6-2-2009 by applebiter]


Funny, I was going to tell you to do the research yourself! I have!! Make no mistake, I know what I am talking about.

Apparently, you are above reproach. I was saying when humans are involved mistakes DO happen. To think otherwise is nonsensical and unrealistic.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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Mistakes happen but not in this area when one knows the entire end game. People are sleeping and will come to a horror when they find out the truth of the World Revolution that has been orchestrated for generations by the Rothschilds. Very educated Professors, doctors, etc...have no clue because they fail to acknowledge the evidence, tons of evidence due to being involved themselves, denial and lost souls.

The 1929 Depression we know was ORCHESTRATED by Wall Street as least a full decade before; in order that we would be ready for a military coup in 1933. Wall Street already financed Hitler FULLY, as I've explained before. We know that Wall Street plans Depressions, Recessions and Inflationary periods long before a full decade up to 20 years to facilitate the use for some war, operation or crisis.

They use the "Hegelian dialectic" as the framework for guiding our thoughts and actions into conflicts that lead us to a predetermined solution. If we do not understand how the Hegelian dialectic shapes our perceptions of the world, then we do not know how we are helping to implement the vision for the future.

The irrefutable facts that most people fail to recognize but will when its too late are opposing sides were then to be armed and incidents provided which would cause them to fight and weaken themselves and gradually destroy national governments and religious institutions. This being a prime feature of the Illuminati plans. When and if their blueprint for world control, the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion, is discovered and exposed, they would wipe all the Jews off the face of the earth in order to divert suspicions from themselves.

Knowing their methods of operation one can talk about their specific PLANS for the next 200+ years from May 1, 1776 to February 6, 2009 and to their final goal of a world government. These are not guesses, nor is it speculation or an analysis. The following is a summary of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, in order to cast blame on ALL Jews, but the following is the actual Five step plan as documented by Adam Weishaupt....

Let me also tell you about their five step program that the social engineers are working on....

1. Demolish the foundation of Bibical Morality.
2. Destroy the American free press.
3. Dismantle the family, patriotism, and individual liberty.
4. Discard the U.S. Constitution and the Republic.
5. Direct our attention to the UN, in order to drag it into the
global government.

In the book “Pawns in the game” by William Carr, 1955, he covers Weishaupt’s plan that goes back to 1 May 1776. His recommendations were as follows”

1. Abolition of ALL ordered national governments.
2. Abolition of inheritance.
3. Abolition of private property.
4. Abolition of patriotism.
5. Abolition of the individual home and family life as the cell from which all civilizations have stemmed.
6. Abolition of ALL religions established and existing so that he Luciferian ideology of totalitarianism may be imposed on mankind.

NOTE: Now connect the dots of current events, movements, activist groups, wars, that are funded by ROCKEFELLER Foundations, Carnegie foundations, Ford Foundations etc.......to follow up on the Hegelian dialectic

1850 (Early 1850’s) - The Illuminati held a secret meeting in New York which was addressed by a British Illuminist named Wright. Those in attendance were told that the Illuminati was organizing to unite the Nihilist and Atheist groups with all other subversive groups into an international group to be known as Communists. That was when the word: "communist" first came into being and it was intended to be the supreme weapon and scare word to terrify the whole world and drive the terrorized peoples into the Illuminati one-world scheme.

This scheme: "communism," was to be used to enable the Illuminati to foment future wars and revolutions. Clinton Roosevelt, a direct ancestor of Franklin Roosevelt; Horace Greeley; and Charles Dana; foremost newspaper publishers of that time were appointed to head a committee to raise funds for the new venture. Of course, most of the funds were provided by the Rothschilds and this fund was used to finance Karl Marx and Engels when they wrote "Das Kaptial" and the "Communist Manifesto" in Soho , England . And this clearly reveals that communism is not a so-called ideology, but a secret weapon; a bogy man word to serve the purpose of the Illuminati. He got the basis for the Communist Manifesto from Clinton Roosevelt, ancestor to FDR, who rewrote the plan by Adam Weishaupt in 1776. We brought communism to Russia after the our own money powers funded Lenin and later Wall Street funded the Bolsheviks, 1915, and Hitler in 1928. Major contributors was Prescott Bush, DuPont family, Rockefellers, Henry Ford, IBM Rothschilds, and the list goes on…..


1907 - J. P. Morgan created artificial panic used as excuse to pass Federal Reserve Act Morgan was instrumental in pushing U. S. into WWI to protect his loans to British government. He financed Socialist groups to create an all-powerful centralized government which international bankers would control at the apex from behind the scenes. After his death, his partners helped finance the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia .

18 May 1920 - The Federal Reserve Board held a secret meeting, to plan a depression. Large banks began calling in loans, causing stocks to drop from a high of 138.12 in 1919, to a low of 66.24 in 1921. When the value of government bonds plummeted, they were forced to call in even more loans. When thousands of the banks' customers could not pay their notes, the banks seized their assets.

Point is, the hidden true history is irrefutable and few want to even consider it.

The end game will be apparent very soon but for many it will be too late................

[edit on 6-2-2009 by tgambill]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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Alright, Pax. Give me a plausible scenario that fits all of the facts available (such as they are). I'm all ears. No, I'm not beyond reproach. I just haven't heard anything like a plausible explanation. I'm especially interested in how you would explain away the deaths.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 08:08 PM
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tgambill, awesome work. The whole thing. I read it before but didn't have time to respond. I now can. So thanks I loved reading it all. Please keep it up if at all possible.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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Does anybody know the published Cause of Death?

Anyone feel like calling their county coroner and asking?



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 08:58 PM
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You are such an asset to this thread, you post wonderful and informative information!!

Thank you!



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 08:59 PM
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Thanks....

our time is getting short. People ranging from professors, Doctors, even Generals have no clue. Those that are involved don't dare speak out but resign for fear of being murdered or blackmailed. The others are duped into believing the lie about overpopulation, big time hoax......and the saving of mankind we must kill billions to save the planet, etc.....is a big LIE. The higher level organizers are following a much deeper agenda, and this agenda is based on an age old agenda following a Luciferian based agenda. No kidding.


U.S. Troops In Black Helicopters Invade New Orleans, Drop Bombs
Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet

Thursday, February 5, 2009 The New Orleans Police Department, along with 150 active duty U.S. troops, are currently engaging in what they describe as “military training” as black helicopters whizz around the city dropping bombs in the latest example of Americans being incrementally conditioned to accept a state of de facto martial law. The training has been ongoing since January 27 and involves “the use of military helicopters flying after dark throughout the city,” according to an Associated Press report.Residents were warned “not to panic” if they witnessed the training and were assured that the activities had “been carefully planned and are safe”. However, initial reports before the exercises began claimed that the training would only involve police, when in fact 150 U.S. troops from the U.S. Special Operations Command are also involved as part of urban warfare training. Residents described hearing low flying helicopters and even bombs during the course of last night. “I heard a bunch of explosions starting at about 10 p.m. They were about ten seconds apart, and then they’d stop, and we thought it was over, but then they started again,” said Gigi Burk. The exercises are scheduled to end on February 8.

www.infowars.com...

NOTE: this is the second time this question was asked. The answer in the 1990's was not favorable for them. The troops were more inclined not to shoot. This is also why in the mid-1990's, UN, German and Russian troops have been slowly filtered inside the US. We have been warning people about the Concentration Camps Halliburton has been building. Now they are brought into public view by H.R. 645, currently in the House to make them legal. It is my firm belief due to a series of factors, that the CIA is orchestrating a crime wave using MS-13 and LGF Latino Gangs in over 3,500 cities. Why, remember the HG doctrine; the crime wave will force us to want martial law because the police will not be enough and the good police WILL BE DISARMED. They also have a doctrine of using felons that are willing to be used as security forces in exchange for their freedom, FACT. Chinese and Russian Troops are in Mexico, Russians are in Cuba, South America, Canada, and Alaska. UN vehicles are stage in a location in Texas. Its going to get ugly. google "Veterans Disarmament Act....." they are thinking ahead to ban veterans with PTSD or as they can say.

U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet

Monday, February 4th, 2008 U.S. troops are being trained to conduct round-ups, confiscate guns and shoot American citizens, including their own friends and family members, as part of a long-standing program to prepare for the declaration of martial law, according to a soldier who recently returned from Iraq.

www.infowars.com...


Socially Engineering The Public For Martial Law
Lee Rogers
Rogue Government
June 19, 2008

The terrorists in the federal government are continuing their push to have a fully functioning martial law apparatus. The city of Denver was recently invaded by a large number of military helicopters without any sort of warning given to the general public. It was originally speculated that this training exercise had something to do with the upcoming Democratic National Convention, but a spokesman with Special Operations said that it wasn’t related and that the exercises would last all week. It is interesting that this spokesman said it had nothing to do with the upcoming DNC. If that’s the case, than what is the real purpose of this exercise? They are selling this exercise as an anti-terror drill, but in reality it has nothing to do with stopping terrorism. The terror war has been proven to be a fraud time and time again so it certainly isn’t about fighting the terrorists. As painful as it is to say, the true purpose of the federal government flying military helicopters around Denver without any sort of notification to the public is part of a plan to socially engineer people to the reality of a militarized police state. The Denver Daily News reported on this situation and asked why the public wasn’t informed in advance that these military helicopters would be flying around. The article is largely a white wash of the situation, but it is incredible how the local government spins this military exercise as something that will actually benefit the local community . Below is a statement from the local government on this urban warfare exercise.

www.infowars.com...



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 09:50 PM
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Oh, I have studied this for over two years. Forgive me as I'm not trying to impress but substantiate, google Thomas Gambill + Kosovo. I've tried on my tiny level to inform people of the truth and what is coming.

Its surreal and sometimes I find it hard to believe myself at times and occasionally have to rehash my own notes. It goes against the pre-conditioning we all have been put through.

The only strength we have is three. One, to inform people.....however, after 1990's they knew that they had the final phase in the bag. THEY brought the agenda in the open.

Bush opened the gates of HELL.
www.youtube.com...

Obama will close the gates on the USA......as they have planned for several years now, Obama was picked as president by the Bilderbergers years ago. listen to the end, Obama comes into his main role.

at 2:40 minutes.
www.youtube.com...

Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Michael Moore, and Naomi Wolf works for the other side.....are there to mislead and complete the final phase of the drive to get Americans to accept the UN.

The Illuminati has a method to their madness, and will tell you what they plan to do that way no one can say: hey, I didn't know when the fit hits the shan.

They [Illuminati] are following a step by step process right to the letter. People don't understand this. Its also understandable that many people don't understand it. It was made complicated just for this purpose. I've literally spent every day, the past two years studing this conspiracy. The study was also after I had thought the "unified conspiracy" was just bunk. It sure isn't. In Canada [1920's], there was an investigation on corruption in the government, [another story], and evidence was given to the Royal Commission on how they [Illuminati or globalist] set up their long range plans to ultimately destroy Canada and the U.S. as nations.........This goes back even before the 1920's......and the timing of the writing about this information is about 1955....so you can imagine the figures and impact 53 years later....as this plan is still in effect going full steam ready to be completed in a short while. Its a fact that the 1929 Depression was orchestrated not long after 1915, with a practice Depression in 1921 to set up WWII and a possible military coup by US military personnel that were no longer active duty. FDR was aware of this and was going to use this to his advantage by catching it before it got to far along. The purpose was to justify martial law and a dictatorship. link to the real FDR

1. They seriously affected the national economies by robbing the National treasury departments of hundreds of millions of dollars.

2. They corrupted and also corrupt government officials to the highest levels and thus obtained control of the two main political parties.

[sound familiar?
Americans in talk shows, colleges, etc.....actually believe that there is a difference between the Republican and Democratic party. It is a masterful ruse as the CFR controls both]

3. They established a new society in which the wealthiest members had made their money by illegal methods and were thus forever beholden to those who had made their successful operations possible. The Majority of the newly rich can't help but carry out the "request" of those who made them rich because those who made them millionaires almost overnight, can reduce them to proverty just as quickly if they so much as even hesitate to do their bidding.

4. They obtained such a control of high level government officials that they had to adopt a policy regarding international security which permits the Communist Party in Both Canada and the US to perfect quietly their revolutionary plans and await the day when the international conspirators give the order to revolt.

[reference the planned military coup in 1933, 1963 and 1973...which didn't succeed, yet].

NOTE: HERE is where Jones, Moore, Ron Paul, Wolf fit in. final phase of the drive to get Americans to accept the UN.

Now #5. - They saw to it that just enough evidence appeared in the public "FREE PRESS", to disgust the public. It gave the public the feeling that our governments have been proved so rotten and that any change must be for the best. BUt the news reports did not disclose any connection between the international capitalists, who organized the gigantic conspiracy, and the subversives in the underworld who put their plans into effect.

Masons protocol and ranking structure, controlling heavily many decisions that would effect US policy.

William Carr, author of; "The Red Fog Over Amverica", wrote that Henry Ford remarked years ago [relative to 1955], is that the amazing thing about the Protocols; no person who has studied them can deny that the conspiracy has developed exactly as those who conceived the original plans intended. One Clergyman with whom William Carr interviewed remarked, "Nothing human could have been so absolutely correct and so perfect in regard to timing and purpose. You have convinced me that the international conspiracy is the conspiracy of Satan".

now the tie in.........Our Presidents act like morons......they do stupid things, say stupid things, lie, and so forth....every wonder why all of them have some sort of Negative attribute....also, notice that ALL of our candidates represented a different segment of society. In order to divide loyalities and confuse voters.........Every candidate represented a significant segment. Fomer war veteran, POW, an anti-government or truth teller [Ron Paul], Mormon, Female Hitler or ERA type, African American, Born Again Christian [Huckabee], hmmmm, coincidence?? I don't think that this is by accident.......

An affair made public with Clinton...one of their fair haired boys with the Rhodes Scholarship.....[designed for globalist], and they bury those reports that they want buried....bull. They wanted it public for many reasons. Sure took the mind of the American public off of our illegal entry into the Balkans and our relationship with Al Qaeda there.....also, it set up the by providing negative operate conditioning toward Democrats, leading the American public to focus on a Republican President.........and if not, the voting was certainly rigged....both times the president was chosen by the courts if I'm not mistaken on the first one. Certainly the Supreme court made the decision on his reelection. Both times in Florida. Imagine that.


on to Number 2 disadvantage , is that everthing must be in place before they start the final phase and if not, they have to wait a long time to set things up again to achieve the advantage that the shock doctrine offers. This will be the fourth military coup planned since 1933 with three presidents. Two of the three were in on the planning. This one has had four. Bush, Clinton, Bush JR and now Obama, all simple minded pawns.

Number 3, and the hard punch, is Jesus Christ............They will lose.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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Still waiting, Pax. I'm prepared to listen to your hypothesis. Remember - you have to account for more components to this than just the nuke flight. There are the deaths, the coincident nuke fuses sent to Taiwan, and the utter failure of multiple levels of protocol and security, including electronic surveillance.

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I really don't want to believe any of this stuff. The dominant hypothesis says the Bush Administration hawks masterminded this failed attempt to rain nuclear hell down by proxy on Iran, and there was push back from some in the military establishment.

What I like about this is that part of the story speaks to some in the military being righteous and true. I want to believe that part. Give me more of that. But I do not like the idea that only a very small pool of humans could ever be POTUS, and somehow even this select group can contain men who would be tyrants and monsters.

How would this work? It could only work if POTUS were told that he can do anything he wants to do, and they mean it, or else "they" (meaning advisors, joint chiefs, etc) were looking for this quality in the first place.

This story makes me sick to my stomach, really. What kind of boot-licking, sadomasochistic, psychopathic creeps populate the halls of power, anyway? Is this really where we are in the 21st Century? Where even the supposedly elect have egos and delusions of grandeur so magnificent that they really see innocent human life expendable on the scale of a nuclear war in order to achieve ... what, exactly?

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posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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I live in Bismarck, ND and my dad has worked at the MAFB for the past 20 years. There is nothing about this in the media here.

In fact, this is the first I have heard of it. I'll try to call my dad and see if I can get any info about it. But I'm pretty sure I will hear nothing. They are very serious about things going on at the base. He keeps his mouth shut about such things.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 01:57 AM
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"Where even the supposedly elect have egos and delusions of grandeur so magnificent that they really see innocent human life expendable on the scale of a nuclear war in order to achieve ... what, exactly?"

******There is but one end game..... a one world government, one world religion, one world police force and this has been planned in detail for a very very long time and very carefully. Final phase is now this generation............nasty times are coming. 13 families are leading the agenda and have for generations. The plan is exact, with objectives, and an end game.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 02:03 AM
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Applebiter, I agree......do have any idea how old this agenda is? The truth is mind boggling.......but its coming to its end and a change for all of mankind.......it appears...soon.



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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Sorry, tgambill, but I don't buy it. The "NWO" has no power. They are nothing compared to you and your friends. You could do anything that you wanted to do right now. The only thing limiting you is your own imagination. No one is oppressing you.

I don't care about NWO, tgambill. I care about learning how to build websites with Flex, PHP, and amfphp to do binary streaming for scalable RIAs. I care about my fulfillment, and what's amazing about this is that, statistically speaking, you and I would most likely have been nowhere near so well off a few centuries ago, and I wouldn't have had the opportunity to do what I love to do. Opportunities for education and health care, communication and creative power, and simply a longer life would not have been comparable to today. Freedom? Peace? We have it better than ever before.

So, if you're telling me that the Illuminati have had control over the world for the past few hundred years, and they plan to eventually take over entirely, finally reaching 3rd and 4th worlders with rudimentary health care and prevention, and education and communication tools than mean for the first time in human history, even the lowliest of us can be heard, and the rest of us might be enriched by it.... well, then I'm all for it.


But I'm not speaking in boustrophedon. I don't do it well, anyway, so when you hear me talk about a "conspiracy", you can take off your foil beanie and assume that I'm talking about the real world.

A friend of mine says this "As a former guardian of the nukes and operator of the ADT system alarms and with knowledge of the bunker locks I will say for the record. This was an theft ordained from upon high."

[edit on 7-2-2009 by applebiter]



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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"Sorry, tgambill, but I don't buy it. The "NWO" has no power."

*****Its a fact that they do. The evidence is irrefutable as evidenced by testimony from Congressman Larry McDonald, murdered, JKF, murdered, Norman Dodd, was spared, Two planned world wars as far back as 1850 to 1871. People are afraid to look at the evidence with stark fear and denial. Right now they own all the Intelligence agencies, presidents and countries. They do it thought false flags, CFR, RIIA, Counsel of the 13, Committee of the 300, and Bilderbergers. They hide in the Vatican under the black Nobility, Masons, 33rd degree, Scottish Rite, and Zionism or jews that are counterfeit jews.....in Israel.


"They are nothing compared to you and your friends. You could do anything that you wanted to do right now. The only thing limiting you is your own imagination. No one is oppressing you."

*****If you really believe this, then you have no clue about what is really going on. This is a total mistatement and off the scale wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

"I don't care about NWO, tgambill. I care about learning how to build websites with Flex, PHP, and amfphp to do binary streaming for scalable RIAs. I care about my fulfillment, and what's amazing about this is that, statistically speaking, you and I would most likely have been nowhere near so well off a few centuries ago, and I wouldn't have had the opportunity to do what I love to do. Opportunities for education and health care, communication and creative power, and simply a longer life would not have been comparable to today. Freedom? Peace? We have it better than ever before."

*****That is the Illusion to keep us distracted. H.R. 645 and the World Constitution will end that shortly and the reality of their final phase will take place. One more incident, dwarfing 911, stock market crash, dollar crash, massive death, and communication failure. The over 1,000,000 UN and russian troops will get their vehicles staged in Texas and Mexico and then after the CIA orchestrated Crime wave, using MS-13 in 3,500+ cities will erupt. Banks and ATM's are closed, supermarkets are looted, and martial law WILL BE ESTABLISHED FDR had this set up in 1933 but it failed. The Illuminati tried again in 1960, JFK stopped it and they tried again in 1970's with Nixon and it also failed. The Trilateral Commission, 1973, co-founded by Rockefeller and Obama's current advisor Z. Brzezinski, evil bunch. Set up the next attempt at the dictatorship which is coming now.

"So, if you're telling me that the Illuminati have had control over the world for the past few hundred years, and they plan to eventually take over entirely, finally reaching 3rd and 4th worlders with rudimentary health care and prevention, and education and communication tools than mean for the first time in human history, even the lowliest of us can be heard, and the rest of us might be enriched by it.... well, then I'm all for it. "

******NO.....the WHO and UN are headed by the Puppets of the Illuminati using Eugenics to force vacc and steralizations of 3rd world countries to the lie about HPV/cervical cancer vacc here in the U.S. The HPV vacc has already killed more than 11 girls and permanetly injured more. It is designed to sterilize and not prevent cancer. FACT. The UN is designed to keep wars ongoing. The main goal according to Kissinger's and Haig's Depopulation plan, NSSM 200 is to depopulate not HELP in any way. It is designed to cull the population of the middle class and what they refer to as "USELESS EATERS" using the hoax of over population and global warming as carrots to fool others into helping with this culling.

"But I'm not speaking in boustrophedon. I don't do it well, anyway, so when you hear me talk about a "conspiracy", you can take off your foil beanie and assume that I'm talking about the real world. "

*****This is the real world, this conspiracy. I have as do many others including congressmen, Presidents, and historians irrefutable proof going back to "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison, 1798 to "War is a Racket" by Major General Smedley Butler, 1932, to the three PLANNED MILTIARY COUPS since 1933 to 1974, not made in the history books that I and many more researchers have evidence of.........

"A friend of mine says this "As a former guardian of the nukes and operator of the ADT system alarms and with knowledge of the bunker locks I will say for the record. This was an theft ordained from upon high."

***********EXACTLY my Point!!!!!!!!!!

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posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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Ok...lots to post about since I was gone a day :-p

Let's start with jackflap. Thanks for the response.

Ok first, the impossibility of losing nukes...in my opinion, the word impossibility should have the quotes. Nothing is impossible, especially when you add that human element.

I know all about 4210 and what not. The two person concept is incredibly important for safety and security but it has been broken before. Two cops broke it in the field and 2 2M0's broke; both in the years I was there. The strict chain of command is in place too but people do get complacent or simply ignore things all the time, why is it impossible that it would happen in a sensitive AFSC? And as for the PRP program, which I know plenty about, it isn't an absolute protector. Sure if someone loses sanity, blacks out, takes drugs, or becomes a severe alcoholic, the PRP program will remove them...the thing is someone has to step forward and recognize the issues and man up and say, 'he I probably shouldn't be working on this weapon"

Thanks again, look forward to your response.

Now as for the Commander that passed on, he worked for the 91st which had zero to do with the incident be it accident or malicious. I worked in a building called MK-12 (pronounced Mark-12). Although technically I was under the 5th Bomb Wing, I worked mostly with the 91st Space Wing. The weapons in the incident were ACM's. Those are all controlled by the 5th Munitions Squadron and the 2M0's of the Space Wing have nothing to do with them so his death, while sad, had nothing to do with this.

Now...to applebiter

Let me start by asking this, since you have done so for me. What is your expertise? What AFSC or company do you work for? You say you are as informed as can be, what makes this so? I truly am interested, not insulting here at all.

Thanks

-Kyo



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by paxnatus

What many have failed to remember, is that anytime you have human involvement in any endeavor, you also run the risk of human error.
The men and women of the military are not 'mini gods' they are just people
like you and me. Fact is No one is above making mistakes.

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You, sir, are insulting my intelligence!

You must be aware of the security involved moving a live warhead from "storage" to the CM and then to the delivery vehicle. We are not talking about ONE (1) mistake. You make it sound like a cadet was asleep at the wheel and "oops" six nukes were on a plane


A gigantic systemic failure of that magnitude will not happen by accident. Now multiply this by 6. Also, both AFBs were involved


[edit on 7-2-2009 by Nichiren]



posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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Knowing that the Rockefellers via the CFR and specifically through foundations control’s the movies, TV and newspapers. This control in turn becomes a major brainwashing machine that staggers the imagination. This includes Walt Disney and his Occult role. (google “Disney with the Illuminati families”). The following didn’t make the history books.


Fall 1937 – The Rockefeller Foundation funded the project in the fall of 1937 for “War of The Worlds.” Meant to be a broadcast used as a psychological warfare experiment and was conducted by The Princeton Radio Project. (Reference details date October 1938).

Note: This method of control is a major asset for the Illuminati besides controlling Religion, but also the Movies, rock stars, including Christian Rock Music, yes folks, the Illuminati founded Christian rock and the Charismatic movement. It was designed to slow down the conversions. Go back to the email I sent about their secrets and the areas that they are controlling and then apply it to current events. This method greatly enhances the plan to bring us into the World Government and acceptance of the Anti-Christ that will come as man of peace. Jesus isn’t coming to bring peace!!! He is coming to bring tribulations and judgment upon the world and how mankind has believed his word.

In any case, as I said before they put the truth on the screen and then they can manipulate it any way that like.

9/11 Truth Written into Script for "Rescue Me" TV Show

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A poster on the sites remarks reflects the desired reaction that they are developing with this and others.

Poster writes:

"Franco, as anyone who watches the show would know, would say anything to bang a hot chick like this. Notice the last thing he says is "are you single?" He's also a very intelligent guy, so he would be well versed as a FDNY firefighter with all the "truther" theories. This is nothing more than an attempt by Franco to get laid. You don't need to read anything else into it."

Note: Above is a poster on the you tube site that is stating the desired response they are looking for from people by putting the truth on TV and hiding in plain sight.

Watchers and regular people take these TV programs SERIOUS. This person is forgetting that its not FRANCO speaking, its the script writer putting it in the program. He's [Franco] well versed BECAUSE HE IS JUST AN ACTOR ITS IN THE SCRIPT!!!!! Whatever the subconscious sees it takes as fact even if on the outset we know they are scripted.


Now, watch how they then capitalize with a follow-up on TV interview assumed to be credible, probably prime time to discredit. NICELY DONE. Genius, wouldn't you say?

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NOTE: Chew on this for awhile....by the way, anyone ever ask how they got the cameras on the moon first? to film the space walk? Maybe he jumped out and set it up then enacted the famous walk or maybe on a set in Hollywood.

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NOTE: Now, to set the stage, on how far back this goes, this study is tantamount as a tool they used while exercising their efforts using the Hegelian Dialectic methodology. A big mouthful for this ole kountry boy. I have talked about this before........a very very sophisticated agenda. Rockefeller, Carnegie, Ford foundations [Tax exempt foundations] have been involved since they put Billy Graham on the payroll back in the 1950's. If anyone wants the details on the Billy Graham involvement I can provide.

“Rockefeller and Hearst worked together in their news monopolies. It was Hearst who promoted both books on Satanism and Billy Graham. (If you learn what I know--the two are not contradictory.) Hearst made Billy Graham who he is today by financially backing him and publicizing him. Rockefeller was supportive of Billy Graham’s New York Crusade, and the Manhattan-Chase Bank helped Billy Graham out.”

www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

Important, was the following study that was instrumental in setting up WW I by British and American elites. It is substantiated and detailed in part III below of Congressman Dodd’s interview.

1909 – Meeting of The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, quoted from the minutes of the meeting. “The trustees of the Foundation brought up a single question. If it is desirable to alter the life of a single people, is there any means more efficient than war…. They discussed this question…… for a year and came up with an answer: There are no known means more efficient than war, assuming the objective is altering the life of an entire people. That leads them to a question: How do we involve the United States in a war?

[Written by former U.S. Congressman Norman Dodd, testified that he was invited to study the minutes of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace: Report from Iron Mountain, New York, Dell Pub., 1967].

Five parts of Congressman Norman Dodd’s Interview in the early 1980’s, confirming the conspiracy and detailing what I’ve been trying to say. 10 minutes each. If any view 3 and 4.

Part I
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Part 2

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Control of education and history....refers to the Iron mountain commission and our educational system since after 1909 to set us up for the next generations to accept this NWO. In part 3.

Part 3

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Part 4

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Part 5

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Congressman Larry McDonald, murdered one month after he made this video with Crossfire.1983. The first part is setting the stage, however; after 3:30 it becomes obvious. The two interviewers are owned by Larry McDonald, but the government murders him later on KAL Flight 007.

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Congressman Jack Brooks gets close to the same Conspiracy................and is shut down by the chairman

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JFK talks about it and is assassinated by the CIA and Mafia. It’s not determined whether JFK knew where Karl Marx obtained the document from which he wrote the Communist Manifesto. As I have mentioned before, Clinton Roosevelt, ancestor to FDR provided Albert Pike the root document who gave it to Karl Mark, after 1841 to write the communist manifesto setting the stage for two or three major revolutions, WW I, WW II, the fake COLD WAR; and WW III yet to come. reference the Helantic Dialectic diagram. JFK is specifically talking about our government, our media and this same conspiracy that Norman Dodd is talking about 20 years later as is Congressman Larry McDonald.

Long version
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Short version with highlights

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NOTE: Because they are the Synagogue of Satan, the Zionist aren't really Jews by birth. They have been using this shield for generations since at least 1897, officially. Point is they use "Anti-Semitism" as a card when necessary. They use the Jews caught in the middle while guarded against the Messianic Jews.

NOTE: Congressman Dodd was a member of this Commission. I've talked about this Commission before.



Iron Mountain Commission Objectives 1967

"The nonmilitary functions of the war system are more basic. They exist not merely to justify themselves but to serve broader social purposes. If and when war is eliminated, the military functions it has served will end with it. But its nonmilitary functions will not. It is essential, therefore, that we understand their significance before we can reasonably expect to evaluate whatever institutions may be proposed to replace them. "

1. Economic. a) A comprehensive social-welfare program, directed toward maximum improvement of general conditions of human life. b) A giant open-end space research program, aimed at unreachable targets. c) A permanent, ritualized, ultra-elaborate disarmament inspection system, and variants of such a system.

2. Political. a) An omnipresent, virtually omnipotent international police force. b ) An established and recognized extraterrestrial menace.

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