2012: A Beautiful Future: But 1st, Waves of What The (F)reak @ 11:11, page 4
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reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 02:20 AM by humanaqurian
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reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 02:57 AM by 4demon
This is just an 'opinion', right? Sure, it may be a very strong opinion, surrounded by a lot of personal faith, but this is just one person sharing their point of view, right? Right?

Generally, in most things, I like to sit on the fence. I'm more of a 'I'll believe it 100% when it happens' kinda guy.

But I'm confused why this is getting so much attention. I could come forward and tell people about a dream I had where we all went to Mars in Giant Hot-dogs, and this would be considered by some? I mean, think about it... the hot dog idea is not 100% impossible... so does that lend me some credibility?

I read the op twice, but maybe I still haven't gotten it right. On 2012, we all go up onto a higher level of existence? Alright, if it happens, then great! If it doesn't happen, then shame, but I guess we get to keep on living.

I'm not really one for predictions, myself. These sorts of stories have been going around for thousands of years, and yet there is still no proof that man can see into the future. You'd think after 1000's of years we'd still have something.

The other day, my girlfriend slowed down the car in case the police saw her... then 2 seconds later, a police car pulled out of a road in front of her. Now don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a psychic girlfriend... but isn't it more of a combination of fluke, chance, and luck?

Maybe I'm just reading this all wrong, and if so, i'm sorry, but why is this getting so much 'exposure'? Is because of all the bad that's happening lately, that we cling on to anything remotely good?

Why, when people say "I have come from the future" they get banned and locked, but when people say "I had an out of body experience, floated away, saw the future, came back, and smiled" they get praised?

Really, please do not feel that I am picking on anyone. Like I said, i'm on the fence... I would just like to hear the reasons why. I'm a curious person.

Thanks, and hope I didn't step on anyone's toes.


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 03:37 AM by Harman
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The story of the OP was about 1.5 posts on theory and 3 lines about the seen future so, a very smalle part of the total post. I mean, he mentioned it, explained his theory without using his experience of the astral projection, then when he was finished explaining the theory with links and stuff he said what he had seen in his travels. Even if he did not travel into the future his explanation about the workings is still interesting.


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 03:46 AM by Alienmojo
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Sorry... but anything Richard Hoagland has to say I doubt highly first of all. I've listened to him rant and rave on Coast to Coast for 10 years and he has been wrong everytime.

Though I appreciate how positive you are and how well thought out your work is I don't agree at all. Remember when the planets all lined up and everyone said "harmonic convergence"? Well nothing happened and I highly doubt that something so far away, farther than the planets are, would affect us in any way.

I guess all I can say is I hope your right and something wonderful happens... but I think its just going to be another day brother. But don't worry, I'm sure some other astronomical convergence will happen for everyone to throw their hope on.


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 05:10 AM by Harman
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Because they are not seen as predictions. Like when you install a program to check where all the planets are and will be, is it a prediction that you know where Venus will hang out or is it based on facts? The Mayan Calendar for instance was not channeled or something, it has been calculated.

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reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 07:02 AM by FiatLux
Originally posted by Alienmojo
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post by Shakesbeer



Sorry... but anything Richard Hoagland has to say I doubt highly first of all. I've listened to him rant and rave on Coast to Coast for 10 years and he has been wrong everytime.

Though I appreciate how positive you are and how well thought out your work is I don't agree at all. Remember when the planets all lined up and everyone said "harmonic convergence"? Well nothing happened and I highly doubt that something so far away, farther than the planets are, would affect us in any way.

I guess all I can say is I hope your right and something wonderful happens... but I think its just going to be another day brother. But don't worry, I'm sure some other astronomical convergence will happen for everyone to throw their hope on.


How about a few facts from your point of veiw where you believe Hoagland was wrong? I`m not saying your beliefs, I`m saying facts.


reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 07:23 AM by Harman
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