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Originally posted by bwinwright
Prior to even understanding what Intelligent Design or Evolution was all about, I would argue with atheists, on radio talk shows, or in college professor's offices that atheism had to be a false idea. Why? My argument always boiled down to one and only one point.
I argued that "order requires intelligent direction". That's it! No atheist could ever explain how this is false. Therefore, it must be true. It is the primary flaw to the philosophy of atheism. I would love for anyone to explain how order does not require intelligent direction. To me it is absolutely ludicrous to even attempt it.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I don't think your theory holds much water. Even if I was willing to grant you the statement "order requires intelligent design" unconditionally, you are still left to explain what you mean by "order."
Too often people are convinced there is a God because they see "order" in nature. (living animals with specialized organs, senses, etc. an earth that supports life and is the perfect distance from a star so that the climate permits life, etc) The fact is, what appears to be order is nothing short of chaos. Human babies are sometimes born with tails, our bodies are no longer covered with hair, yet most of us get useless "goosebumps," killer asteroids sling around the universe in what appears to be nothing short of a cosmic shooting gallery, over half of our DNA is useless "junk" that has been collected over millions of years of evolution and no longer serves and purpose in the modern homo sapien, etc.
These are just a few examples of what many people take to be "order" and that, upon closer examination, dont represent the sort of "order" that an all-knowing and all-powerful God would create.
In my opinion, you need a whole lot more than this "one and only one point" if you are going to consistently argue for a God.
Originally posted by sir_chancealot
Call me when you get around to that "Walking on Water" and "Raising the Dead" stuff. Until then....