Originally posted by Grandma
reply to post by Christ!
Christ (which you are not)
God of the OT was also a God of love and mercy. When King David was talking about how wonderfully made our bodies were and how God knew us even
before we were in our mother's womb.........to me that is something beautiful. Not anything that an INSANE God would do!
Peace to you,
First the bad news, then the good news.
The bad news is that the body is a limitation.
The true GoD makes no limitations...does not limit.
For to limit would be to limit love.
And love cannot be limited.
The true GoD always gives everything, and nothing less.
So, the true GoD always gives eternal life, perfection, omnipotence, omnicience, totality, wholeness...love.
In brief, the true GoD always gives himself, creating equals only.
For this reason Jesus said, 'if you've seen me you've seen the Father"
Having given himself, the Father is "in" the Son, and the Son is "in" the Father.
In this way, the whole Kingdom of God is "within".
He was not talking about a body.
He was talking about his glory...his true Self.
A body is a limit on love.
A body is a limit on the glory of the true Self...which is Christ.
So it is said, "all have fallen short of the glory of God".
For to be a man is to have fallen short of the glory of Self...which is Christ...which is the truth.
The body is a lie made to replace the true Son with another son and another father.
And this other son and other father are said to be the truth.
They are not.
The body is a limit on love.
It is the only place in the whole of the Kingdom of God where God cannot be, for God cannot be limited.
So, to make bodies and to see bodies is to make love meaningless.
And this is the meaning of 'adultery'.
To look at a body is to perpetuate the adultery of love, rendering it meaningless.
The body is the work of gOd, the ego which makes "the universe" in place of the Kingdom of God.
The universe competes with the Kingdom of God for the title "reality".
But this title belongs to Christ.
And "the universe" is made from unbelief in Christ...the original sin.
The body, therefore, is an effect of faith...the "substance" of things hoped for.
The body is the effect of sin, born in sin, and dead in sin.
It is not really alive.
It is a dream figure, suffering.
It is a robot, slaving.
It is to prove but one thing: the truth is not true, and must be "dead".
To understand the genesis of the body, one must understand the true - nasty - genesis of the "wonderful" world.
The world is wonderful if you believe that Christ crucified is wonderful.
Ok, now the good news.
The good news is if you confess your sin, God is faithful and just to forgive you your sin.
What is your sin?
Unbelief in Christ.
What is the effect of this sin?
So if you confess to making the universe, whatever it is, you will be forgiven for believing you made it.
And forgiveness will inform you that what you made is not really made.
It is imagined.
And imagination is an expression of freedom.
No harm has been done to Christ.
Our Father has not truly been mocked, though the universe would mock him.
The universe does not truly exist, so God has not been mocked.
If the universe did exist, and were eternal, then would it be an unforgivable sin.
But in fact every sin is forgiveable.
And forgiveness would inform you that there is no sin because the universe is not the truth.
Sin is a lie.
Accept this, and you will accept your innocence.
The universe is an effect of your belief in guilt.
Belief in guilt is unbelief in Christ, which is innocent always and eternally, unchanging, unchanged.
Christ cannot change.
You can believe Christ can change.
You can believe you have succeeded in changing Christ.
But your unbelief will not change Christ.
Your unbelief will not change you.
Here again is the good news.
The Holy Spirit has promised the Father that you would be saved.
Saved, you will know yourself again as the Son of God...Christ...perfect, even as our Father is perfect.
[edit on 14-2-2009 by Christ!]