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Originally posted by Leo Strauss
If these people are criminals arrest them, give them a trial and punish the guilty. Why is that not sufficient?
In fact, the term "rendition" in the counterterrorism context means nothing more than moving someone from one country to another, outside the formal process of extradition. For the CIA, rendition has become a key tool for getting terrorists from places where they're causing trouble to places where they can't. The problem is where these people are taken and what happens to them when they get there. As a former director for counterterrorism policy on the National Security Council staff, I've been involved with the issue of rendition for nearly a decade -- and some of the myths surrounding it need to be cleared up.
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3. Step one of a rendition involves kidnapping the suspect.
The individual may feel as though he's being kidnapped, but that's not usually what's going on. Most of the time, the person is detained by the authorities of the country he is in. They will then hand him off to the CIA, which will fly him to his destination.
In rare cases when the country of residence is a hostile one, an "extraordinary rendition" can be carried out: a covert effort to abduct the suspect and spirit him out of the country. The CIA put considerable time into efforts to capture Osama bin Laden this way from Taliban-ruled Afghanistan in the late 1990s. Had it worked, it would have been an extraordinary rendition -- and Americans would have cheered.
Karl Adolf Eichmann (March 19, 1906–May 31, 1962), sometimes referred to as "the architect of the Holocaust", was a Nazi and SS-Obersturmbannführer (equivalent to Lieutenant Colonel).
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He was captured by Israeli Mossad agents in Argentina and tried in an Israeli court on fifteen criminal charges, including crimes against humanity and war crimes. He was convicted and hanged in 1962.
Originally posted by Leo Strauss
I am talking about a loophole in our justice system which would allow American citizen to be kidnapped.
Rendition
The capture of political prisoner, political opponents or suspected terrorists by the United States government, and their removal to countries where the torture, rape, and/or prisoner abuse are legally permitted or overlooked
There shall be established a Special Task Force on Detainee Disposition (Special Task Force) to identify lawful options for the disposition of individuals captured or apprehended in connection with armed conflicts and counterterrorism operations.
Section 1. Revocation. Executive Order 13440 of July 20, 2007, is revoked. All executive directives, orders, and regulations inconsistent with this order, including but not limited to those issued to or by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) from September 11, 2001, to January 20, 2009, concerning detention or the interrogation of detained individuals, are revoked to the extent of their inconsistency with this order.
Originally posted by crmanager
Let the butt smooching begin..
"I can't believe Obama would let this happen..."
"The Generals must have gotten a hold of him..."
PATHETIC>>>
The savior saw what W was doing was right after all of you...people...bought into his liberal rhetoric.
He is a Marxixt but at least he can see some reality.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Can you explain? American citizens would be arrested if they were on US soil. If they were in another country, extradition would be employed. And if the foreign government didn't want to cooperate, then yes, we might go get the guy. But he would then be brought here and given a fair trial, in keeping with our laws.
Rendition
The capture of political prisoner, political opponents or suspected terrorists by the United States government, and their removal to countries where the torture, rape, and/or prisoner abuse are legally permitted or overlooked
Do you agree?
Originally posted by ConservativeJack
Change we can believe in?
Where's all of these Obama voters? Too embarrassed to show their faces?
I mean, I find it quite pathetic that all of those people voting for Obama can't man up and explain this.....liberals are just confused and usually women.
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Quoting - Please review this link
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I would LOVE to see more Americans get out of this narrow bilateral view that sees every little thing in politics in terms of "liberal" and "conservative."
Can you please open your eyes? Both such categories are useless and it has been proven time and time again that BOTH, regardless of which one is in power at the particular time, BOTH of them are routinely responsible for crimes against humanity while in power.
Both "sides" are criminals and you shouldn't be allying yourself with any of them. Its not "liberals vs conservatives" anymore.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration will not conduct the kind of "extraordinary rendition" that the Bush administration allowed, CIA Director nominee Leon Panetta assured senators on Thursday.
Panetta told the Senate Intelligence Committee that President Barack Obama forbids what Panetta called "that kind of extraordinary rendition — when we send someone for the purpose of torture or actions by another country that violate our human values."
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"I think renditions where we return individuals to another country where they prosecute them under their laws, I think that is an appropriate use of rendition, Panetta said.