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reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 12:38 AM by secretagent woooman
reply to post by GuyverUnit I



The media is turning on her because she has a psychological condition called hoarding. No single mother with no means of supporting her six other children should have legally been given fertility drugs. She has a definite problem that needs to be addressed, what she is doing is no better than someone who hoards stray animals.



reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 06:52 PM by ravenshadow13
The Western World doesn't need more kids! Young adults like myself are now competing with adults for jobs because the economy is so bad.

And for the pleasure of this thread:
tlc.discovery.com...

The Duggar Family, 17 kids and counting... I think they have 18 now?



Oh, and they're all super religious. And all the kids' names start with the letter J.
They took a trip to the Creation Museum on the show that I watched.

Excellent.
I'm an only child. I don't want kids, but if I have them, I will have only one or two unless I have twins by accident.



reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 07:04 PM by Illusionsaregrander
Originally posted by badgerprints

On one side, the 2 kids rule (with the unofficial "girls are worthless" attitude) has created some long term social issues for Chinese society.


Just to be clear, the problem in China was a one child only rule. And if they had to choose, they preferred to have one boy. (The way society is set up there it is the male child who helps support the parents, the female child goes to her husbands family to help take care of HIS parents in their old age.)

www.wellsphere.com...

In some countries, the task of caring for the parents falls on the shoulders of the male children – in fact, in China and most other Asian countries, it’s a matter of dishonor if a son refuses to look after his old parents till their deaths.


Its not that "girls are worthless" they are worthless to their parents in old age in a country where parents are cared for in their old age by their sons and their daughters in law. You really do have to place things in cultural context.


If the limit was two, there would not be the gender imbalance. China took a more drastic approach, they wanted rapid population reduction. Two children is holding a population steady, rather than continued growth, with moderate reduction over time as some will not reproduce at all either because they die young or choose not, and some will choose to have only one.


reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 07:19 PM by badgerprints
reply to post by TasteTheMagick



Once again. Illustrating the point.
They can't see beyond one extreme or another.

Another idealist thinks it is fine and proper for a mentally incompetent person without the means to support 14 kids to squeeze out as many as she pleases and expects society i.e. SOMEBODY ELSE to pay for them.

Tell you what, why don't YOU go get a loan, buy a great big house, furnish it, stock it with food, pay for the gas, water, electric, maintenance, upkeep, taxes, mortgage, insurance and high def cable. Then call the lady who has her children by the litter and invite her over. Let her stay as long as she likes having litter after litter of kids.
You can clothe them, feed them, cover their insurance, keep them in fashion. Buy them all phones, games, bikes, cars and all of the other goodies that growing kids need. Pay for the tuition that will be needed for them to go to college and be successful happy adults.

That will be much better than telling this psychotic twit to stop having babies.

You might be able to find her contact information on the net. Give her a call. Tell her that you are going to support her right to be a baby making machine. Good for you!

Oh yeah, you're in luck. Mortgage rates are low and the housing market is in the crapper. You ought to be able to get a great deal on a 15 bedroom home.
This is gonna be great!
You can afford all of that. Right?


When will we get back to the ability to use our common sense in these issues? We don't have to take an outraged moral stance every time somebody jumps up and decides to do something incredibly selfish and horrendously stupid just because it is our right to do so.
Do we? Really?

Well,
No.
No.
Ok. I see your point.

Its every womans right to have a dozen or so rugrats on her own and just let the already overburdened social system take care of it.

It's also every fathers right to have sex with as many women as he wants, creating babies as fast as he can and never paying any child support.

Yep the extreme "It's my right to be stupid." method is the way to go.


I'm glad you cleared that up for me.




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