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reply posted on 18-5-2004 @ 09:56 AM by imtheism
regarding live soldiers who feel no pain/no conscious. If you worked it right, you could completely engineer people from the time of birth to do this via psychology/hypnosis. We already know what it is that makes people morally/emotionally retarded (aka serial killers). With hypnosis, it's been more than proven that you can put people into a trance, and even do things like open heart surgery with NO anesthesia (sp?).

Also, when you get your nor-adrenaline (fight response) going - people have been known to put holes in concrete walls with their bare fists (8" thick walls) and come out of it without even a scratch on their knuckles.
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true story here about catatonic schizophrenics (CS): Now, 99% of the time people with CS are veggies. Every once in a while though (like, maybe once in 5 years type deal) they can go into noradrenal override modes for no apparent or definable reason (not saying they all will, but its well documented they can). In a ward a prof of mine worked with, 2 guys were escorting a CS down a hallway somewhere, when he went into override.

Some info on the parties involved:
CS: 125 lbs, ~6ft tall. Basically a stick figure.
escort one: 6'4, 325 lbs, former offensive lineman/bouncer.
escort two: 225 lbs, 6'2, martial artist of 15+ years. Specializes in self defense/non-lethal submission moves.

They're escorting him down a hallway, one on each arm basically (E1 left arm, E2 right). He goes into overdrive. Swings right arm across the front of his chest, connects with E1 in the sternum. Force from blow knocks E1 literally 20 ft back backwards into a wall knocking him out, with every bone in his rib cage shattered. The centrifugal force of the swing lifted E2 completely off his feet and swung him into the opposite wall aprox 8 ft away. CS then walks up to wall, punches 3 holes in 5" thick concrete wall, and goes back into state of catatonia.

100% true story
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Another pretty well known fact is that when running high on adren, or noradren your body can withstand amazing amounts of punishment.

It's been pretty well documented that people all hyped up on certain amphetemines (or maybe something like PCP, which is a hallucinagen - but can trigger noradrenal modes) have taken multiple gunshots to the chest and kept coming. Ask a cop about dangerous encounters with people on PCP some time.

Luckly, your body really doesn't have that large of a supply of noradrenaline. usually you get one big surge, that can last from seconds to maybe a half hour, depending on how focused/intense it is. If however you could find a way for a person to 'trigger' the outburst deliberately, and keep a constant supply they could be 'unstoppable' for long amounts of time.

Martial artists are thought to be able to more or less turn their nor adrenaline on or off - which is why you see some of them break 700lbs of ice without a flinch. So, feasibly it is possible.

As long as you're not talkin about raising the dead, military-type zombies aren't THAT far fetched.


reply posted on 18-5-2004 @ 10:20 AM by Darkblade71
In order to create a real zombie, IE: Dead person who walks around.
you would need a fresh body, one who's brain hasnt deteriorated,and I suppose you could make some sort of helmet with a car battery on it or something simular to that IE:a power cell of some sort, and then stimulate the brain with electricity to cause the impulses of movement. If the electricity was put into the proper places in the brain, you could make it move around. Make legs move etc, make it breath to supply oxigen, which would keep the body "alive"
You would also have to have a complete map of the brain proccess and then the "zombie" would have to be remote controlled or somehow programmed by a computer chip.
I guess its a possibility once we get the entire brain all mapped out and understood.
Just my thoughts on the subject.

As I was reading this, a thought occured to me, what would happen if you turned on the juice and the person actually came back to life after being dead for a few days and kept in a cooler....they would be brain damaged for sure...but...what if they were still them? eeeeeeee....brings up a moral issue....spiritual one too.

Might just be better to remove the brain and insert a computer brain attached to the spinal cord...that might work better. Yeah yeah!!
thats the ticket!! You could probibly stimulate the heart to beat and lungs to function, so that they dont drop thier arms and stuff off after a few days. Otherwise they would become rather stinky...and who wants a stinky zombie running around?!
BLAH!! little gobs of flesh falling off and stuff.....
ewwwwww

[Edited on 22-5-2004 by Darkblade71]


reply posted on 22-5-2004 @ 02:05 AM by Preest
Originally posted by imtheism
As long as you're not talkin about raising the dead, military-type zombies aren't THAT far fetched.
Nowhere near farfetched.

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