You don't shout in the jungle.

If you subscribe to the theory I believe in you will see that all life in the universe is related,there are not spontaneous eruptions of random life anywhere in the universe,if there is one thing that we should have figured out by now its that.

Moving forward with this in mind,we also now know one DEFINATE WAY THAT LIFE IS TRANSFERRED OVER VAST DISTANCES IN SPACE---HUMANS.

It seems to fit in with humans having a destiny or an urge to leave our planet,why cant we be comfortable with the idea that it is a humanitarian responsibility of the entire human race to ensure our survival through exploration and colonization as we have done throughout our entire history.

If all life in the universe is related and only environments alter the appearance of the sentient or intelligent lifeforms present, then why isnt it possible that we are simply "way to smart for our britches" because our relatives "altered us so we would speed up in an evolutionary sense".Hence the missing link.

Until we understand how life acts in the rest of the universe we will never know if we are really just fleas on someones collar or if we are what we think we are.

We dont know that if we went to another lifebearing planet that we wouldnt see living creatures similar to ones found on earth and there are millions of types of life here,and when you consider that we are ALL RELATED TO THE MOST BASIC VIRUS ON OUR PLANET ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, you are FORCED to accept the reality that we are in all probability related to all life in the universe simply based on the diversity of life here on earth that we are related to.

You may not like the taste of this MEDICINE, BUT YOU ARE RELATED TO THE MICROBES THAT LIVE IN A SULPHER RICH,POISON TO US AS WE ARE NOW ENVIRONMENT ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA FLOOR ADJACENT TO VOLCANIC VENTS.

So you see we are going to be related to any life we encounter,and we are in all probability going to find that bi-pedal life similar to ours will exist in all those places,until science can transfer a human soul or life force into another type of creature that is not a mammal like us and then that hybrid communicates to me that it knows its alive ,I will continue to believe THAT GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS IMAGE AND THAT WE WERE HAPPILY MAKING OUR EVOLUTIOARY WAY TO "GODHOOD"WHEN WE WERE RUDELY INTERUPPETED AND "BOOSTED"FORWARD A FEW MILLION YEARS ,SO WE COULD BE SOMEONES SLAVES?Or some other self-serving reason which no longer matters because we are able to ASSERT OUR SENTIENCE THROUGH VIOLENCE NOW.

These other races we are encountering and interacting with are probably surprised that we dont even know who we are or the EXTENT OF OUR ABILITIES.

Thats because they all dont know how we got here in the physical state of evolution that we find ourselves in.

There are physical evolutionary changes that accomodate things like space trave,there are ying and yang type of parralels that need to interact together for us to be stable,BUT WE ARE WAY TO SMART FOR OUR STILL UNDERDEVELOPED PHYSICAL FORMS WHICH WE CANNOT FORCE TO CHANGE IN PACE WITH OUR MINDS.

We create environments and situations in which we can adapt our bodies or influence our environment in order to EQUAL THIS IMBALANCE.

Our minds can take us places our bodies cant go wether we are comfortable with that idea or not I guess.

These other races are no better or different than us ,they are simply other races of life in the universe,we dont even know if they are native to earth or not,only that they look enough like us that I suspect they are related to us through the universal chain of life but THEY HAVE EXIBITED ALL OF THE WIDE RANGE OF HUMANLIKE EMOTIONS YOU WOULD SUSPECT FROM A RELATIVE OF OURS,SELFISHNESS,GREED,ANGER,SINGLEMINDEDNESS OF PURPOSE,UNDERSTANDING,COMPASSION,LOVE,EMPATHY,SYMPATHY,ALL OF THE EMOTIONS WE EXPRESS.

Not all of them and not all of the time ,BUT ENOUGH THAT WE KNOW THEY ARE CAPABLE OF DOING ANY AND EVERYTHING WE ARE CAPABLE OF DOING AND FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASONS.

We are learning these things in REAL TIME ,there is no lagtime in us getting the information from the internet like the old days when it could take years to learn what was happening around the world and by the time you found out things were already changing and a new reality was being spun,we are all being offered the chance to share our reality or to spin one together.IN REAL TIME,THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HUMANITY HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS.

Everyone is trying to understand their world USING OLD RULES OF REALITY.

Those days are gone and we are living in REAL TIME NOW due to the availability of information.

Its just like our monetary system,it is full of loopholes that allow it to be selfpropogating,things like "ninety days to pay",do people understand that just this principal alone creates TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT DONT REALLY EXIST,every day.And creates or propogates a false reality that causes an imbalance in the usage of the worlds resources,and the reporting of the availability of what resources exist on earth and what countries can hold humanity hostage for acess to those resources.

The guy in africa doesnt get thirty or ninety days to pay for his cup of rice my friend he is dead of starvation in thirty days,and we are the perpetrators of his demise.

We are living in real time now and people are trying to rationalize a change that they feel and that is affecting their lives but they cant put their finger on,they think"time is speeding up" or other things,BUT REALLY THEY ARE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES BEING EXPOSED TO REAL TIME LIFE.

wE WILL DO OK.

Originally posted by Kandinsky
Like many ATSers, I think it's possibly too late to worry about catching the attention of our neighbors. There seems to be a lot of circumstantial evidence that something else is in our jungle

If that's not the case, I agree with Hawking. We don't know anything about what's out there. The irony is that if we develop the technology to detect life in the galaxy...life has probably already detected us. The discussion about remaining a covert planet rather than broadcasting our existence is probably redundant.

In principle, we should remain quiet in the jungle until we know where we are on the food chain.

It's not 'our' jungle, that's what's going to get us killed, that attitude and mindset right there that this planet and the milky way galaxy somehow belongs to us when we haven't even been outside of our own solar system, let alone sent humans further then our own satellite! HAH!

Aliens would get a good laugh out of us then say "Screw this primitive planet, we'll be back in a few thousand years when you monkeys stop killing each other."

And this topic brings up very good points on both sides, well more then both sides are present, there are some people that agree with Mr. Hawking, some people that agree but think we should take the risk and others that disagree and think we'll as violent as possible, and any species more violent then us has probably already blown themselves up like we'll going to.(Oh you all know we are, it's just a matter of time, sadly.)

[edit on 1-5-2009 by Deus Ex Machina 42]

Hawking only PRESENTS HIS QUESTIONS SO THAT WE MAY CUMULATIVELY ADDRESS POSSIBLE NEW REALITIES BY ADDRESSING NEW PERSPECTIVES THROUGH OUR SEARCH FOR ANSWERS.

His voice carries no greater weight than that,BUT SOMEHOW HIS VOICE IS HEARD AROUND THE WORLD,this is because he is galvanizing us in preperation for the inevitable future he sees if we dont immediatly begin to desire change.

I have presented this perspective to mr.Hawkings through his lackeys,sorry but they aren't able to be effective,the perspective that the change he seeks WHICH IS ULTIMATELY THE ANSWER TO EVERY QUESTION HE EVER POSED--can only come through mass education IMMEDIATLY so we can bring the collective POWER OF SIX BILLION REALITIES CO-OPERATING IN A PROGRESSIVE FUTURE to bear on the humanitarian global issues we have to fix today.

I suggested then as I do now,DISTRIBUTE SIX BILLION SOLAR POWERED LAPTOPS TO EACH HUMAN ON THE PLANET ,LET THEM LEARN FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS .It is only lack of REAL TIME INFORMATION that allows us to be manipulated as a species.Given equal choices humans will make the same decisions,powerful,great,humanitarian decisions that would impress anyone in the universe in their sincerity.

Then for the first time in human history WE WILL SEE A TRULY GLOBAL DEMOCRATIC VOTE IN ITS PUREST UNADULTERED STATE,THE CHAINS WILL FALL FROM AROUND OUR COLLECTIVE NECKS AND WE WILL TRULY BE A FREE SPECIES.

For the first time we will truly see how powerful,compassionate,and caring humanity truly is ,WITHOUT ITS OLD MASTERS AROUND ANYMORE.