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John 6:51:"I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever;"
John 8:23: And He said to them, "You are from beneath; I AM from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
John 8:12: Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I AM the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life."
John 10:9: "I AM the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture."
John 10:11: "I AM the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
John 10:36: "do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?
John 11:25: Jesus said to her, "I AM the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
John 14:6: Jesus said to him, "I AM the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
John 15:1: "I AM the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.
Acts 9:5: And he said, "Who are You, Lord?" And the Lord said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads."
Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” So the Pharisees said to him, “You are bearing witness about yourself; your testimony is not true.” Jesus answered, “Even if I do bear witness about myself, my testimony is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going, but you do not know where I come from or where I am going. You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. Yet even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for it is not I alone who judge, but I and the Father who sent me. In your Law it is written that the testimony of two men is true. I am the one who bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness about me.” They said to him therefore, “Where is your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also.” These words he spoke in the treasury, as he taught in the temple; but no one arrested him, because his hour had not yet come.
So he said to them again, “I am going away, and you will seek me, and you will die in your sin. Where I am going, you cannot come.”So the Jews said, “Will he kill himself, since he says, ‘Where I am going, you cannot come’?” He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”So they said to him, “Who are you?” Jesus said to them, “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning. I have much to say about you and much to judge, but he who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from him.” They did not understand that he had been speaking to them about the Father. So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me. And he who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to him.” As he was saying these things, many believed in him.
He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”So they said to him, “Who are you?”
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
Then Moses said to God, “If I come to the people of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what shall I say to them?” God said to Moses, “I am who I am.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘I am has sent me to you.’” God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations.
I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins....
What was His purpose on earth?
37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.
*cough* selective beliefs much?
peace and love but hate your family and give away EVERYTHING you own is the only way to follow me
and all those wonderful i ams, where are the ones where he says he isnt god? the ones where he says anyone can become more holy then him in thier life time and perform greater miracles?
no mention of the parts where God and the holy ghosts tell him things and lead him places he doesnt know (kinda meaning he is seperate from them as he said, and as he says he is a messenger of god, the son of god but he isnt god, how about the bits where he says he ISNT holy and only God is holy?
*cough* selective beliefs much?
ahh so you believe anyone lighting a fire, collecting wood or doing any work on the sabbath (thats friday btw) should be stoned to death? that children who are insolant and disobey thier parents should be stoned to death gays should be put to the sword along with adulterers ?
Originally posted by illimey
*snort* not at all!
I am one of those crazy Christians who actually believes that the entire bible is the inspired, literal word of God. The "I Am" statements that Jesus spoke are a SELECTION of my beliefs.
Compared to the love we should have for God, the love we have for everything and everyone else should be meaningless. The fun part is, though, once we TRULY have that attitude of love towards our God, He then goes "OK! Now, husbands - love your wives as Christ loved the church!
Die for your families!
Love your neighbor as yourself!
The time and money you are genuinely all giving to me - I give back to you to use as my Spirit leads you for your blessing and the blessing of other people! I don't need it - the whole Universe is mine after all!"
Jesus never said that He wasn't God. He often stressed His humanity, but never said He wasn't God. He never said that anyone could become more holy than Himself either - I don't understand your comments...
I am not able right now to watch the video you posted, so perhaps that will clarify your thinking here.
agreed everyone uses selective beliefs, its part of the way our brain works
Originally posted by Obliterated
There is nothing wrong with selective beliefs. As long as they're good ones that don't cause harm to yourself or to others. Even Athiests have selective beliefs.
Anyone with morals and ethics believes in them. Morals are usually learnt either directly or indirectly from someone saying or doing something and they learnt from someone else etc... it started somewhere.
but as God gave the laws in Deut and jesus supported them failure to do them makes you akin to the pharisee for holding mans law higher then gods
Religion was law for it's time the same way we now have federal and state laws,
religion was the foundation on which these were built.
i hope your kidding?
If there is nothing saying you shouldn't do something and if no consequence resulted from ones actions we would live in a world far worse than the one we live in.
Originally posted by illimey
Head knowledge of the words in the bible without heart knowledge of the Word OF the bible (which only comes through faith) is dangerous. You have no insight into the words you read, and are not understanding the message, the contexts, or the applications.
ive had lot of discusion about lots of things on ats this and many many other bits of the bible and religeous philosephies
No doubt you have had this conversation on many threads here at ATS already, so I'm not going to engage in yet another one with you.
actually im quit amused by this reply and generally in a good mood
This is probably going to make you angry (if you're not already), but that's a good thing...
I'll pray for you instead.
Originally posted by OldThinker
Here’s OT’s take…
Water? Steam? Ice? One thing…?
Egg? Yoke? Shell? Referred to one thing?
But here’s my fav…
I’m a SON…I’m a EMPLOYEE, and I’m a FATHER…3 expressions, 3 different ways to relate to me…3 difference way to relate to others….yet I’m still ONE ole’ dude…