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Because no occupying power has ever won Afghanistan. The British tried, the Russians tried.
The greatest massacre of British soldiers in the history of the British empire happened in Afghanistan.
"Slaughter in the Mountain Passes
A magazine based in Boston, the North American Review, published a remarkably extensive and timely account titled “The English in Afghanistan” six months later, in July 1842. It contained this vivid description (some antiquated spellings have been left intact):
On the 6th of January, 1842, the Caboul forces commenced their retreat through the dismal pass, destined to be their grave. On the third day they were attacked by the mountaineers from all points, and a fearful slaughter ensued…
The troops kept on, and awful scenes ensued. Without food, mangled and cut to pieces, each one caring only for himself, all subordination had fled; and the soldiers of the forty-fourth English regiment are reported to have knocked down their officers with the butts of their muskets.
On the 13th of January, just seven days after the retreat commenced, one man, bloody and torn, mounted on a miserable pony, and pursued by horsemen, was seen riding furiously across the plains to Jellalabad. That was Dr. Brydon, the sole person to tell the tale of the passage of Khourd Caboul.
More than 16,000 people had set out on the retreat from Kabul, and in the end only one man, Dr. William Brydon, a British Army surgeon, had made it alive to Jalalabad. The garrison there lit signal fires and sounded bugles to guide other British survivors to safety, but after several days they realized that Brydon would be the only one. It was believed the Afghans let him live so he could tell the grisly story. "
Obama's making a strategical mistake by sending 30,000 troops to Afghanistan.
Afghanistan has been the graveyard of empires ever since Alexander the Great had trouble crossing the Khyber Pass in 326 B.C. He wisely decided to pretty much leave the tribesmen alone and moved south to India. From the Middle Ages on, waves of invading Mongols, Moghul rulers of India, and Persians have swept through the area, but the Afghan tribes have always proved fractious and hard to rule.
Foreign domination ended in 1747 when the Persians were expelled from the western part of the country and a local dynasty was established that survived into the 20th century. For the following two centuries Britain and Russia vied to control the area because of its vital trade routes across Asia but found it largely indigestible. An entire British army was annihilated in the First Afghan War of 1839-1842. Britain did not trouble the Afghans again until 1878, when a modern army advancing on Kabul was ambushed and nearly overwhelmed at Ahmed Khel before British firepower gave the advantage to the invaders. The British chose to leave the Afghans alone, paying a large subsidy in gold to the country's rulers while only stipulating that a British minister would have veto authority over Afghan foreign policy, a move designed to keep the Russians out. In 1919, the Afghans rose up, invading India before being driven back and defeated inside Afghanistan by an expeditionary force armed with field artillery and machine guns. The British wisely withdrew and, by the Treaty of Rawalpindi in 1919, the British Empire accepted complete Afghan independence.
The next great power that tried to occupy Afghanistan was the Soviet Union from 1979 to 1992. Moscow eventually sent 110,000 soldiers supported by tanks and helicopters to Afghanistan before withdrawing in failure with at least 10,000 dead. A Soviet-backed puppet regime survived for a short time before being replaced by the Taliban. Now there is a U.S.-backed puppet regime in Kabul headed by Hamid Karzai, sometimes referred to as the "Mayor of Kabul" because of the limits of his authority, who reportedly became president in the first place because he spoke good English. His government is largely ineffective and is extremely corrupt, with much of the corruption coming from drug money, which makes up the bulk of the country's economy. There have been numerous attempts to kill Karzai, who is protected from assassination by a praetorian guard from Blackwater International.
Because no occupying power has ever won Afghanistan.
Originally posted by UnitedSatesofFreemasons
i see i comparison with Viet Nam.
Originally posted by dooper
One of the basic tenets of warfare is that you never, ever design to hold territory with your military.
It's impossible. It's manpower intensive, and it violates another principle of warfare that requires freedom of movement.
You can control a territory without holding it with manpower. This is the part that few have figured out yet, and all the while, the wisdom of the millennia is there for the taking.
A grand total of 25,000 hand selected men could dominate Afghanistan. I mean DOMINATE.
Many regions would rapidly become "forbidden territory." Because everyone and everything that went in would disappear.
Our Special Forces, TACP's, Company Branch Operatives, and other Special Ops forces dominated by using rapid movement, rapid traverse, and not having any damned Generals fouling up their operations.
Afghanistan is no different from any place else.
The proper personnel mix, proper support, blindingly fast movements, along unanticipated lines of movement, and the Taliban would hang their retirement shingles out in Pakistan, never to return to Afghanistan.
Our generals are our worst enemies.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
No my friend they will follow them and bomb them where they hide even Obama has already fired off a few missiles they wont be able to hide.
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
putting sof into cities does not mean you control the country.
It just means you control the building and immediate area around where your soliders are stationed.