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Refinery strikes spread across UK

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posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 03:42 AM
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Refinery strikes spread across UK


news.bbc.co.uk

Strikes have been breaking out across the UK in support of a mass walkout by energy workers in Lincolnshire angry at the use of foreign workers.

Hundreds are gathered for the third day of the original strike at Lindsey Oil Refinery after owner Total gave a £200m contract to an Italian firm.
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posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 03:42 AM
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So much for Gordon Brown's "British jobs for British people" i really hope this turns into a general strike and plays a part in bringing down this lousy government we have in this country so that we can get on with rebuilding and recovering from the shambles that New Labour has made over the last decade or more.

news.bbc.co.uk
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posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 04:07 AM
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An image Here from sky news that shows just what the Italians think of the protesters and British people protesting outside the refinery



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 04:28 AM
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There is probably some clause in the EU constitution ( sorry Treaty ) that allows firms to do what they please.

The sad fact is, we all knew that this would happen and that the government would just step to one side and do nothing.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:18 AM
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A core principle of EU law is that the UK broadly accepts the right of nationals of other member states automatically to live and work in Britain. The UK agreed to this when it joined the Common Market, as the European Union was then known, in 1973.


BBC

There you have it Ted heath signed away our rights in the 70's and now it is coming back to haunt us, and it will be made worse with this government standing by and doing nothing to help



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:24 AM
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I too truly hope this spreads and turns into a mass protest against the many injustices being committed against the British people in our own country at present.

The situation at Immingham is an absolute outrage and it's about time MSM started reorting on it.

www.timesonline.co.uk...

Thanks for posting.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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At least The Times are reporting it.

www.timesonline.co.uk...



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:37 AM
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So the strikes come, refineries shut down, production stops, demand increases, and the oil prices go up. There's no coincidences involved when men in suits are raking in shedloads of money for very little effort.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:41 AM
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But what action is left for the British workers?

It is a clever and long game plan getting played out here.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:43 AM
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Be careful what you wish for.

Bringing down the rotten goverment will just do the same in every other country, replace them with what looks like the better of the two options only to find yourself deeper in the #@$%



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:47 AM
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Considering this government has taken us to the point of bankruptcy just how much deeper could we end up in the $%#@ ? no matter how incompetent they are no one could be any worse than the shower we have in power at this moment in time.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by munkey66
Bringing down the rotten goverment will just do the same in every other country, replace them with what looks like the better of the two options only to find yourself deeper in the #@$%


Maybe not.
As much as the MSM would try to convince us otherwise, the entire world isn't America, its not the same and it doesn't want to be.

There will be better days. Change is possible.
There are a lot of good people out there, contrary to popular belief. Unfortunately they are outnumbered a million to one by the idiots who blindly accept the first thing they are told, and its going to take some drastic upheaval to fix it.


As for the refinery workers, good on them. Its common knowledge that the small industrial town closest to my home, my best chance of work, has been overrun by immigrants from Eastern Europe, and its now pretty much impossible for a local to get a job, be it skilled or otherwise.
Just a shame that the local way of protesting is to go on the dole, listen to music and consume substances that bend the mind...

and then going finding a job 'off the radar' so to speak. Everyone has a way of making money, it just might be a bit dodgy, due to the fact that when the government realises its losing lots of precious tax money that bad stuff will happen.


Of course, none of this would be a problem if they all f@?#%d off back where they came from.
And thats coming from someone who believes in 'one world one people'. Bloody foreigners



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 08:10 AM
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Workers are walking out at power plants / oil refinery's in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in support.
Much respect to all of them.
There are still some Brits with balls who are prepared to stand up for themselves and for what's right.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by solidshot
Considering this government has taken us to the point of bankruptcy just how much deeper could we end up in the $%#@ ? no matter how incompetent they are no one could be any worse than the shower we have in power at this moment in time.


It could be a lot worse.

At the moment, not many of us here are feeling the damage of this financial crisis. I'm certainly not. But then I don't own my own home, and my job is secure.

Compared to a lot of other places in the world, and despite the way all Brits complain about everything, life here isn't actually that bad.

I'm all for change, but right now I'd rather deal with the devil I know than the devil I don't.


As for the protests...
We were waiting for it to hit the UK, and now it has. Sure it's in a different way, but we've seen the unions protesting in France, youth protesting in Greece, general protests in Iceland etc.

I really am surprised there hasn't been anything going on in the US yet.

Now we need to watch to see if this turns violent.
The moment it does, we know we've joined the club of slightly less stable nations.

One thing that surprises me is the MSM censorship of what is going on in the world. Iceland have had rolling protests to overthrow government, and it was reported on for the first day, nothing since. We should expect the same.

If government can keep the MSM quiet about what else is happening in the world there is less chance of it spreading, and I am certain that this is exactly what they're trying to do.

No doubt it's worse in the US. Did any of America know that Iceland was still protesting and they'd succeeded in ousting their current government? I don't think so, and I wonder why not.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 08:48 AM
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at the end of the Day whos fault is it?

1. the Firms for getting cheap labour so they can put the price of their services down since the public want cheaper services at the espense of local Jobs who they would most likely have to pay more in Wages.

2. or the people who expect cheaper services at the expense of the company in the long run?

problem i see is people in the UK and other countries have grown acustomed to cheap goods due to cheap labour.
this was bound to happen in the Long run of things



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 08:06 PM
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Cheap goods aren't a problem.
Decent wages aren't a problem.

Finding someone who's willing and in a position to own and run such companies who doesn't mind living like a regular person instead of running profit margins running into millions, if not billions, to spend on their castles and jets and stuff is a completely different kettle of anchovies.

(Minor off-topic slightly related info [sorry]: I had an anchovy tonight for the first time in a Chicken Caesar salad at a restaurant, and it was bloody horrible. Eeeeee.)



posted on Jan, 31 2009 @ 11:59 AM
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isnt that the whole point of Capitalism?
you open a Business or company to make as much money as you can at a lower cost,

cheap labour and cheap production means more people will be willing to buy it
and keep profits up.

that was my point with people who complain about Jobs
how many of them would be willing to pay a higher price for a service to keep it in the country?



posted on Jan, 31 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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We wouldn't need to pay a higher price if the company owners would take lower wages like the rest of their workers... sure, they'll get more than anybody else. But if they didn't take as much as they do now, we wouldn't have to pay much more, it is the company owners who need to take the hit..and they'd still be better off than many of us.



posted on Jan, 31 2009 @ 01:37 PM
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If we are serious about supporting British workers, we should start to ask all the companies that supply services to us if they employ non British workers and then why?

And ther should be a web site were companies can be named and shamed if they employ non British workers when there are British workers who can do the job.

And if this Government is brought down by these actions, they will be replaced by a similar bunch with a different name.

Maybe we can start a thread on ATS??



posted on Jan, 31 2009 @ 04:11 PM
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Im on my soapbox here. I have a friend who started his own business in 2007. He used what little savings he had to become self employed. He wasnt accepted for any grants available at the time and had no intention of taking capital from any bank or lending house.

He struggled badly for the first year and started getting on his feet in time for this recession to hit here in the UK.

What realy Peed! me off was the fact that he was to old, being over 35 for 2 grants that were being thrown out willy nilly to younger less experienced first time self employed.

Then, in March 2008 he hears about 3 local businesses being set up by eastern europeans. One of them a car wash business that employs 4 Serbian men that was completely set up through grants. Grants that even bought the ground there business is situated on !.

Now the local Scottish car wash has shut down after 13 years and our friendly Europeans in their new business are cleaning up.

It is a disgrace.

Respects



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