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No Flight 93 Passengers on 9/11 Compensation List; UA 9/11 Planes Still Flying

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posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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The NYPD was trying to diffuse the detonators that they found... The only problem was that they were on a timer and there were more than one scattered all over the towers. The explosions that were heard inside the towers is all the evidence you need. Here is a link that provides substantial proof that 9/11 was an inside job.

www.reopen911.org...




posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by glenn84The explosions that were heard inside the towers is all the evidence you need. Here is a link that provides substantial proof that 9/11 was an inside job.

www.reopen911.org...


Excellent link. Here's more irrefutable proof of secondary explosions which after 9/11 were somehow never heard or mentioned again:




posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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It's too bad thermite/thermate doesn't come with any trackable serial numbers. Just speculation on my part. but food for thought none the less; could the cargo holds of the planes have been filled with massive amounts of thermite/thermate? Could this explain why so little wreckage was found of flight 93?



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by drock905
reply to post by GoldenFleece
 


Your trying to say that the planes didnt crash and everyone is still alive living on a tropical island or that the governemt took them to a field and shot them? Something like that right? You realize how insane that sounds? Its not a bad hollywood movie.

You need to grow up. I was in college during 9-11 with a few people that had their brothers, sisters and parents DIE in these planes. But it was all a big conspiracy didn't happen. I would love to see you say this these people.

Are there questions about 9-11? sure there are. But this is quite a stretch and irresponsible logic



I had friends die as well, but why are you denying the facts? This government has been involved with some of the greatest conspiracies in human history. Innocent people died and what do we have to show for it 8 years later? I mean we have not even been able to find Bin Laden, is he even real? We invaded a country, have killed thousands and thousands of innocent people and american soldiers have died in the name of what?? PATRIOTISM?!? Where are the WMD? I mean sooner or later you need to open the shutters you have to your eyes and realize that this was orchestrated... Taking Iraq and turning it into a "democracy" is what they want you to think.. With a military base in Iraq it gives the United States a strategical advantage when they decide to take out Iran. Once the United States and UN have military control and have successfully set up their military bases throughout the world, Their plan will be a success. There is a corruption within our government that JFK, Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Thomas Jefferson warned us about. Secret societies using covet means to infiltrate our infrastructure. They make the masses believe what is going on is the right thing when in fact it is not. Listen for yourselves JFK never mentioned the United States as a democratic nation but as a REPUBLIC!

video.google.com...



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenFleece

Originally posted by glenn84The explosions that were heard inside the towers is all the evidence you need. Here is a link that provides substantial proof that 9/11 was an inside job.

www.reopen911.org...


Excellent link. Here's more irrefutable proof of secondary explosions which after 9/11 were somehow never heard or mentioned again:






I mean I cannot believe that people still deny the facts after all the evidence that has been recovered.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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You people are all nuts....New World Order rules!!!!



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Dewm0nster
I can accept the conspiracy that the American government had a hand in 9/11.
Maybe they even planned and carried out the whole thing.

But I most certainly, will never see the logic in thinking it was anything other than planes that hit those buildings.

If the American government was willing to kill all the occupants of the twin towers- Why not kill the ones in the plane too, instead of weave yet more intricate and complex plans.


I'm of the same opinion, but there is one other scenario...

If the flights were remote controlled that means the passengers had to be de-planed at the airport. Then they were marched off somewhere and eliminated.

I myself find this to be extremely unlikely but it's the only way if you believe that hte panes were empty when they hit.

I guess that I cant really believe this 100%



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Swatman
its funny, people like the topic maker call bush and the government the stupidest people in the world and how incompetent they are and how they fail at everything they do, yet they come up with amazing numbers and ways of twisting things to make bush and his cronies the smartest people on the planet. which is it? you cannot have it both ways.




Who's saying the Bush administration was the mastermind behind all of this?



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 06:48 PM
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Last year Councillor Yukihisa Fujita of the Democratic Party of Japan, asked the National parliament how the identity of the two Japanese passengers said to been killed at Shanksville and the WTC was determined.

The reply: "well, I do not have the information in front of me, but we were told by U.S. authorities and, in general, they use DNA testing. So we believe that is how we know about these two people".

Fujita: "So you are saying you do not know because you do not have the documents. Also you say you believe there was DNA testing, but you do not know... this was a crime and crimes need to be investigated. So the government needs to inform the victim's families of the results of their investigation. Also, instead of just observing the anniversary of 9/11 each year, you must be gathering information and acting upon it."

The Japanese victims were Toshiya Kuge (a vistor to the U.S.) and Seima (David) Aoyama (U.S. citizen, born in Japan).




CNN has deleted the passenger lists it published in 2001: edition.cnn.com...


[edit on 30-1-2009 by EvilAxis]



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 06:50 PM
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DNA



In the late fall of 2001, as Shaler and his colleagues were engaged in the slow work of conducting DNA tests on the thousands of fragments from Ground Zero, pathologists at the Pennsylvania and Pentagon sites were moving much more quickly. Many of the remains were burned and badly damaged, but identifiable. In Pennsylvania, Somerset County coroner Wallace E. Miller and his team scoured the "halo"—the field and woods surrounding the crater left when United Airlines Flight 93 plunged into the ground. The debris was everywhere. Trees were draped with scraps of luggage, clothing, bits of the fuselage and human remains. Walking through the crash site in the days after the attacks, Miller's eye caught a flash of light 20 feet up in the branches of a hemlock tree. "I only noticed it because the sun happened to hit it at just the right angle," he says. A tree climber brought it down. It was a single tooth with a silver filling. Eventually it was matched to one of the passengers.

In the first two weeks after 9/11, Miller and his team identified 16 of the 44 passengers and crew aboard Flight 93 through fingerprint and dental records. For others, he turned to DNA testing. Hairbrushes and razors collected from the families of the victims provided DNA to match up with human fragments pulled from the wrecked plane.


Thats really something ! Planting a tooth in tree! Who would thought of that!

Or do belive in some twisted manner that real people with real lives did
not die on that plane....



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by wolf241e
If the flights were remote controlled that means the passengers had to be de-planed at the airport. Then they were marched off somewhere and eliminated.

I myself find this to be extremely unlikely but it's the only way if you believe that hte planes were empty when they hit.


Well, there was this little-known report on 9/11 from a Cleveland TV station:


UAL Flight 93 Landed Safely At Cleveland Hopkins Airport
Plane Lands In Cleveland - Bomb Feared Aboard

Reported by 9News Staff
Web produced by:Liz Foreman
9/11/01 11:43:57 AM

A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.

White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated.

United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did not say how many people were aboard the flight.

United said it was also "deeply concerned" about another flight, Flight 175, a Boeing 767, which was bound from Boston to Los Angeles.

On behalf of the airline CEO James Goodwin said: "The thoughts of everyone at United are with the passengers and crew of these flights. Our prayers are also with everyone on the ground who may have been involved.

"United is working with all the relevant authorities, including the FBI, to obtain further information on these flights," he said.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:09 PM
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They make the masses believe what is going on is the right thing when in fact it is not. Listen for yourselves JFK never mentioned the United States as a democratic nation but as a REPUBLIC


Because the US is a Republic?



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 07:53 PM
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I know the source of this data and I think it is extremely pertinent to any discussion concerning the truth about 9-11. There is a notable absence of response on the part of the alleged families of the victims that were reprted to be on the planes accepting the government's hush money while most of the families who lost loved ones in the towers and the Pentagon attacks responded in one fashion or another. There is also the curious case of flight 93 reportedly being grounded in Cleveland on 9-11 because of a bomb threat. There used to be video of the local news coverage of that event that included a statement by the mayor and film of the passengers being escorted off of the plane, but, wouldn't you know it, that video has since been pulled off of the internet.

As an amateur Sherlock Holmes where 9-11 is concerned it has always been my suspicion that the planes that struck the World Trade Center were not the commercial jets that they were reported as being and this would seem to bear that out. Where the Pentagon is concerned Rumsfeld famously slipped up at a subsequent press conference and stated that it was a missle that struck the Pentagon. The photo evidence of the event seems to bear that admission out to my mind. Yes, 9-11 was an inside job, but beyond that, it was also street theater for the New World Order. It was a tacit confirmation that the people in power believe that they can now stage convincing dramas thru their complete domionation of the media that can be substituted for the truth in the minds of most of the world. The fact that most of the world refuses to play along is more vital than we probably realize. It is vitally important that all of us that refuse to be duped by this obvious contrivance continue to raise our voices against it. The elite must be made to realize that we are not the doddering, gullible dolts that they wish us to be. We must continue to resist and speak out on this piss poor attempt at theater.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 08:20 PM
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Who... honestly.. could look at all the facts IMPARTIALLY... and not come to the conclusion that the whole 9/11 scenario is the most blatant deception of modern time?? To be roaming a site such as this one must assume you are open minded? But some folk, even after seeing ALL the facts refuse to believe that such heinous crimes could of happened.
WAKE UP!!! STAY AWAKE!!



Mod edit: Removed irrelevant "text".

[edit on 1/30/2009 by Hal9000]



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 08:22 PM
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Excellent post. You're spot on in everything you say.

Here's an interesting analysis of the Cleveland Airport Mystery.



[edit on 30-1-2009 by GoldenFleece]



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
does anyone know what the average numbers of peoples on these flights was on any given tuesday? all the flights hijacked that days seem very low in number of passengers to me.


No doubt, If I got on my usual 757 from WPB to NY and saw only 40 or so people on board. I think I turn around and get off.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 08:57 PM
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I believe one of the scenarios being touched upon by the original poster is that they needed prefabbed 757's that were gutted, and loaded with massive explosive devices, maybe bareels of thermite, the alledged missile that fired off just before impact ect.

So this couldnt be done on a plan your gonna actually put passengers on.

So these now "flying bomb planes", had to be switched in air, with the regular planes.

The real planes with passengers are either flown away and the passengers given new identities ect, if you look alot of the passengers. The unusually small amount of passengers, had a large percentage of military people, airline people ect. These are the types that my go along with a protection program, for thier country *salute*.

But more likely the planes we landd somewhere and the passengers were executed.

As far as the planes still being used. Heck why not? Why waste money when you don't have to. They think the American people are stupid enough to believe 4 to 5 hijakers on 4 planes could all take comlete control of a very small cockpit, already occupied by 3 men, and were able to get past the nav guy, and kill/incapacitate the pilot and copilot before a simple emergency hijacking alarm could be switched on. PAH-LEASE!

And there were 4 for 4, in pulling off this insanely lucky, fantasy scenario.

Well lets keep the planes, swap some numbers (waste not want not ya?). Even if anyone figures this out they'll be labelled as nuttersand asked after ALL this the PTB are gonna risk it all by keeping the planes???? No Way.

It's the ultimate double bluff, and look at America today and the state of what americans believe, or even know about 9/11. I'd say it worked out nicely. and they were able to save four boeing 757's. Not chump change by any means.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 09:09 PM
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See, right there tells you the sheeple are still asleep, when I was doing my investigating, can't remember where I saw it, but it said flt 93 landed in Chicago, and the very few people that were on it had to evacuate because they said there was a bomb scare. Just to throw them off track I guess.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 09:17 PM
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I'd like to thank the mods who gave me applause for this thread and especially to professional debunker "thedman" who immediately tried to discredit it, which helped advance this important topic to the ATS home page.

THE FLIGHT 93 FRAUD -- Smoking Gun Evidence:



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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I'm not a big fan of Rense.com. I enjoy reading their articles but I think they will publish almost anything.


I agree with you. They do publish just about anything. Several times, he posted articles that were blatant lies, with alleged "facts" that were proven false very easily. I wrote to him several times, with documents facts concerning these falsehoods. He NEVER replied, and he NEVER posted retractions or corrections.




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