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reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 03:25 PM by worldwatcher
reply to post by Albertarocks



Yes this method is based on Mel Bartholemew's Square Foot Gardening method which he has several books on and had the PBS show about. I believe there's only been a few slight and minor changes to his method, but overall it's by far the best use of space for small home grown gardens. By dividing the box into square foot, you're able to plant more intensively and helps to differentiate weeds from the good plants to the newbie gardener's eye.


reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 03:28 PM by Albertarocks
Originally posted by worldwatcher
reply to
post by Albertarocks



Yes this method is based on Mel Bartholemew's Square Foot Gardening method which he has several books on and had the PBS show about. I believe there's only been a few slight and minor changes to his method, but overall it's by far the best use of space for small home grown gardens. By dividing the box into square foot, you're able to plant more intensively and helps to differentiate weeds from the good plants to the newbie gardener's eye.


Yup! That's it! Thanks for the reminder. It was Mel Bartholomew's book that I purchased way back then. And if I'm not mistaken, it was he who hosted the TV show. Gosh, that does bring back memories. Tanks!



reply posted on 20-5-2009 @ 12:30 PM by worldwatcher
reply to post by Muckster



ooh your garden is lovely!! I haven't tried cabbage yet, not the right time to grow it here in south florida, and I have to ask what is "courgette" I have never heard of it before..

as for composting, I want to do it, but being that I live in a community with a home owner's association, I don't want anyone complaining about the smell and I have heard that no matter the method, you will get a smell if you're composting.. any tips?


reply posted on 20-5-2009 @ 07:29 PM by Muckster
reply to post by worldwatcher



Thanks worldwatcher

Sorry... i think you may know Courgette as Zucchini summer squash. In England we call them by the French name... not sure why.

Regarding composting...

Your right... all compost heaps smell... but you can limit it by having a closed bin type composter instead of an open heap. Balancing you green and brown materials help reduce smell too.

Green = Grass, vegetable waste, plant matter etc.
Browns = woody material, cardboard, egg shells etc.

If you have to many greens (as i did) you can end up with your compost smelling like strong cat pee... not very nice hehe

Now that i have a better balance the smell has almost gone. Oh... if you want to add grass cuttings make sure you dry out the grass before adding, otherwise it turns to mush and smells. Also... if you are adding woody material that’s thicker than a pencil you should shred first otherwise it can take a long time to break down.

I'm no compost expert but that’s just what I’ve learnt through my own mistakes

I'm turning into a bit of a garden geek and i think it would be great if we could keep this thread alive with updates... i'll happily post pics and reports on how my garden is coming along. I think that horticulture will be the key to survival after Sit X.

Good Luck


reply posted on 21-5-2009 @ 02:58 AM by Muckster
reply to post by Albertarocks



Snail and Slugs... they truly are a gardener’s worse enemy... especially in the UK where the weather is ideal for the little buggers. Last year, before i had raised beds, i lost nearly all my potted tomatoes shortly after germination.

I have used 2 methods to keep the buggers away... the first is i have placed copper edging around all of my raised beds. Slugs and Snails hate the stuff... apparently when their slimmey little body’s try to travel over it they get a small static shock. I used copper tape which i purchased from a garden store but you can use old copper pipe if you have some laying around... just hammer it flat, drill holes in it and screw it to the top edge of your raised beds

This, however, does not stop the slug eggs that are already in the soil from attacking your plants... i did not want use chemicals... so i turned to biological warfare HAHA

Slug Nematodes are tiny little creatures that are the slugs natural enemy. They attack the slugs and do something to them which prevents them from feeding... they then starve to death. I applied a pack of these to my raised beds to kill off the slugs already inside my copper barrier. For outside my raised beds i use the old method of torch at night search and destroy. You will never win the battle against slugs... its more damage limitation, which is fine by me, i don’t want to wipe out the entire population. I have excepted that they are nature’s way of keeping me on my toe's

You can also use crushed egg shells around the base of plants.

Oh yeah... one last thing... i have placed a couple of rotten logs around my boarder... these encourage ground beetles and centipedes into the garden... both are natural enemys of the slug.


Happy Hunting


reply posted on 24-5-2009 @ 03:48 PM by frayed1
reply to post by gardenlen



The link worked fine.....That is some serious broccoli!!

And I totally want one of those water tanks!!

We lost our little manure producer this winter, but he left us with two of the large round bales of hay....one has quite a bit of water damage and hopefully the seeds have rotted.....it will have a future in the garden as mulch and compost....


reply posted on 24-5-2009 @ 04:00 PM by gardenlen
reply to post by Albertarocks


g'day again,

just saw this one regarding the snails/slugs.

beer traps do work just you need a deep enough container that they climb into and the beer despatches them not sure how. also if you create hiding places say roof tiles layng on the ground and each morning lift the tile and collect and despatch the snails, also poly pipe like downpipe blocked at one end maybe but painted black inside makes a hiddy place for them even a sheet of wet cardboard with a brick on it laying on the surface will work.

the early morning safari is a good one pick 'em off and squish them on the path. another method that works for us is make up a super strong coffee mix we use el-cheepo instant and spray that around the base of the plants as well as on the base of the plants will work with the immature ones, needs multiple applications but over time you will see the difference.

happy gardening

len


reply posted on 24-5-2009 @ 04:19 PM by gardenlen
reply to post by frayed1



g'day frayed1,

yep we get good results so we try to pass this onto others we feel we have what amounts to bludge gardening method once in play, or a good beer drinkers garden not much actual gardening and lots of time in the shade enjoyng a drink while looking at the hand work.

yes the tank is necessay when rain falls are low reckon bite the bullit and go big enough, it will pay off in the end.

we use green type hay mulches ie.,. spoilt lucerne and pasture grasses, and mostly sugar cane mulch as it is easiest and cheapest but not as good as the others still works, we don't get too concerned about seeds in mulch anything that pops up does not perpetuate and can be pulled and added to the garden as extra nutrient.

len


reply posted on 26-7-2009 @ 10:23 AM by sligtlyskeptical
I had to try this out myself. Rather than go buy wood, I used supplies I had on hand. This consisted of one 10 foot 2X4; four 42 inch hurricane shutters and wingnut bolts (left over from DIY shutter installation) and wheels off of a speaker box which is inoperable. I also used some scrap half inch plywood to serve as the bottom of the box and fibergalss window screen to keep the soil in the box. Ridges in the hurricane shutters will hold the bottom in place. Gives me about a 8-10" deth for planting.



Total cost was zero, just about 3 hours of labor to construct and paint. Today I will be buying the mix and filling the box in preparation of planting in 2 weeks. I will use Mel's mix which is 1/3 peat moss, varied compost, and vermilucite. I expect it will cost about $30 to fill, plus another $20 for seeds. Plan on growing spinach, romaine lettuce, radishes, peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers. brocolli, cauliflower, carrots in stages as the south florida weather permits.

Since the shutters are 42 inches, this gives me a 3 inch border on each side which I will plant the onions, garlic and marigolds to keep the bugs away. I may also add some herbs in these areas. I will be left with 9 square foot areas.

I do have a few questions. 1. Will the fact that I am using a metal box rather than wood be detrimental to my crops? 2. Since the shutters have bulges on the sides this will allow high air flow to the soil. Is too much air a bad thing? I will probably put the herbs on the corners as they like drier soil. 3. In south florida which plants can be started now? 4. What would be the ideal way to arrange the planting? Should I not have certain things next to others? thanks for the assistance.

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reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 04:06 AM by afaik
reply to post by worldwatcher



I am sorry if this has been mentioned (I have not read the whole thread) but...
Is that a weed or a weed plant in the top lefthand corner of the 1st photo in this thread?


reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 02:09 AM by desertdreamer
reply to post by afaik



Does not look like it. Would not matter anyway....I would hope to have some after the fallout, would be good for medicinal purposes.

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