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Originally posted by Harassment101
Non smokers have had to deal with it, putting up with it. It's not like everything else. If someone is smoking outside on ground level you can walk away. I usually do.
Originally posted by Harassment101
If someone is smoking in their home, you can not walk away when it starts to affect your home. You can open windows, and as mentioned balcony doors, back doors, but in the heart of winter, this is not a fun solution.
Originally posted by Harassment101
Smokers should deal with their addictions, or build encolsed areas for their addicitons. I would not want a meth lab, or crack smoker anymore than I want any other type of smoker, because eventually they all affect your health.
Sorry to sound harsh, but it does affect your health. If it was just an annoyance it would be one thing, but it's more than that.
Originally posted by RFBurnsThat sounds like an issue with the apartment building or workplace building air ventilation system, not an issue with smokers.
As I pointed out in another thread...when was the last time your apartment vents were cleaned? Are you aware that CDC proved that indoor air is far worse than the outdoor air?
Seperating smokers from non smokers in an apartment building or condo, I have no problem with. I dont think any other smoker would have a problem with that either. But to you non-smokers, even that wont be good enough after a period of time..just as it isnt good enough now for us smokers to go outside or be in our designated smoking areas.
Originally posted by FritosBBQTwist
Yes but once again they pay rent. They do not this property at all. I am sure they have certain rights that are listed, but since it is not THEIR place they do not set the rules.
Originally posted by FerTheBetter
reply to post by RFBurns
the non-smoking and smoking appartments/condos does sound likea good idea, they should do that, but even that its getting into umm whats that word segregation which is not a good thing
Originally posted by FerTheBetter
reply to post by RFBurns
the non-smoking and smoking appartments/condos does sound likea good idea, they should do that, but even that its getting into umm whats that word segregation which is not a good thing
So you might be a cigarette smoker, but not a marijuana smoker, but have to put up with being high because of what someone else is doing, or using. Non smokers currently put up with health issues, due to smoke.
Originally posted by RFBurnsIm actually glad to hear that from a non smoker who knows which way to take a step or two. Most dont and just argue to argue.
You will find that even if you were surrounded by non smokers in that enclosed apartment complex, your air will be even far more stale and dirty. Which means your apartment or condo has inadequate air ventalation. That alone is not healty. Dwellings require air circulation, especially enclosed heavily insulated apartment buildings or condos.
Smokers do deal with their habit. We go out of our way to accomodate your wishes. And that still isnt good enough. Unfortunatley when it comes to individual homes that are not apartments or condos, thats where you or any other non smoker has absolutely no right to be complaining about the air quality when there is airspace seperating my smokers home and your smoke free home.
If the wind happens to blow in the wrong direction, oh well, thats nature's fault, not the smokers fault.
Originally posted by FerTheBetter
So you might be a cigarette smoker, but not a marijuana smoker, but have to put up with being high because of what someone else is doing, or using. Non smokers currently put up with health issues, due to smoke.
you would not get high if you were living next to a person who smokes weed, thats an outrageous thing to say.maybe if you were in the same room but thats still a stretch.
Originally posted by Harassment101
Smoke can drift through walls to the extent that if you don't smoke, people come to your home and they think you are a smoker. It's that bad. Think of fire when there is smoke inhallation, it goes through walls.
Originally posted by Harassment101
The vents in my home were cleaned recently enough, but it comes through the walls. They don't stop smoke, same reason when your neighbours home is on fire, you can die from the smoke, even if the fire does not touch your place.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
she was gone for the night. You couldn't even smell the smoke and I tell ya what buddy I stopped counting on my 30th structure fire back in 2006 and if it seeped into that room you would have smelled it. Its a terrible plastic acrid smell you never forget.
Try again, thank you.
Ok stop it with he smoke going through the walls crap.
It can only gain access through open doors vents and cracks. You are not going to die from the smoke if your neighbors home is on fire, unless you open your windows. It cannot seep past drywall or even one thin coat of paint. In fact drywall can even stop a fire for quite sometime until the surface area gets so hot it combusts the wood touching it. You have no clue what you are talking about.
You must be hell to live next door to. If I was your neighbor I would throw eggs at you every day until you moved.
[edit on 29-1-2009 by LoneGunMan]
Originally posted by LysCat
I'm honestly confused about the whole 'smoke drifting through walls' thing. Both of my parents smoked, and I kept my bedroom door closed (not because the smell bothered me, but because I was a teenager and liked my privacy). The furniture in my room never smelt of smoke, my clothes didn't carry the smell. Given that reasoning, I don't understand how a person can complain of smoke when there isn't even a smoker in their home. I just don't understand it.